yay smoke free!!!!!!!!!!1

Guy:Incognito

Finally. Anyone in a pub at 12? any sudden downing of the cigs and mass law abiding?

Cal

Left the pub @ 12.30ish.

I saw flagrant disregard for the law. Crimewatch will be working overtime this month putting names to the security cam faces.

Cal

Dont Ban Me

Yaaaaaaaaaaaa Whooooooooooooooooooooo No more smoke, Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

deadduck

no one was gonna try tell a load of drunkards, "right lads, 12 o' clock, put the cigs out." it'll kick in tomorrow, big time

flogen

yeah, sure the health and safety people said they wont be starting til 9 in the morning, so theres no one to enforce it anyway

Flogen

dglancy

Was in that ****e-hole 'Isoldes Tower' off Parliament Street. The jacks was full of smokers and so was the back of the pub - including some whacky smokes.

I'm not a smoker and neither am I very militant about this law - but I hope it doesn't mean that you are hardly going to get into the jacks to take a piss because of the smokers.

Still it was hardly going to work half-way through the first night,

Unexpected

This is a tough law to implement. Picture q bar jacks on a friday night about 12. U get the picture. They will be smoking in Jacks easily.

sixpack's little hat

I work in a night club and it was enforced tonight(sunday) from half eleven onwards.
People seemed to accept it easily enough.

Tivoli

brilliant, now i can go out "on the piss", sleep in my clothes and not smell like an ashtray when i wear them to work in the morning


it should never have been alowed

but I hope it doesn't mean that you are hardly going to get into the jacks to take a piss because of the smokers.

mate!, the world is your urinal :cool:

User45701

why dont they just put urinals in the streets like in amsterdam?

mudflapgirl

Originally posted by User45701
why dont they just put urinals in the streets like in amsterdam?

Because those things are scary (to me) and an excuse for some people to do other things in the street (saw it with my own eyes no less than 2 months ago)
Anyway, It'd cause 'moral outrage' among the biddies in the country

Cal

Originally posted by User45701
why dont they just put urinals in the streets like in amsterdam?

They have those in London now also.

Cal

[CALIBUR]

Originally posted by Cal67
They have those in London now also.

Cal

really? I want to see a pic!

smoke.me.a.kipper

in the pub were were in, some went outside after 12 (including myself) but in the clubs we went to, no one seemed to care. wait till tomorrow tho.

Lump

Originally posted by #MEAT#
really? I want to see a pic!

There is one in Soho Sqaure.... as you come into the square from tottenham court road.


Dont have a pic though.


John

Big Chief

who cares about the pubs, i cant freakin smoke in work!

im gaspin

Asok

I'm a smoker and tbh i dont really care about the ban if I want one ill go outside either way it will end up saving me money each night I go out but one thing if it happens will annoy the ****e out of me is if people just run into the jax for a smoke, trying to get to a bog in a pub at night is hard enough without having 20 smokers in there.

Da_cOmRaDe_MiKe

i think its great. but i smoke aswell. smoking in pubs is just bad anyways. it annoying at work cos we gotta leave the premises now but hey thats life. id easily give up smoking now because its such an inconvience to do it now. i think there will be a great response but i reckon there will be a few disputes and fines to come.

omnicube

what are you people on about, smoking in pubs is part of the irish culture. drink, music, and smoking (whether its cigars, pipes or cigarettes) is what a typical pub should be.yeah i know, your clothes can stink from it, but who wears the clothes they wore out the night before anyway?!? give them a wash for god's sake!!!! yeah im a smoker but cut down a lot recently, don't mind the ban too much but it gets annoying when people insist on bitchin' about how horrible the smokers are, get over it!

Hyzepher

Originally posted by omnicube
... but it gets annoying when people insist on bitchin' about how horrible the smokers are, get over it!

The ban is in - you get over it!!

Hyzepher

catsup

went to the college canteen for elevenses and sat in the former smoking section. quite enjoyed sitting there, and being able to watch the smokey joes outside.

mwah ha ha!

everythings coming up millhouse

omnicube

Originally posted by Hyzepher
The ban is in - you get over it!!

Hyzepher

em....i think i just said above that i don't mind the ban, so i think i am over it. but does anyone know if a pub/club has an outdoor part to their building, are people able to smoke there? because it's still on their premises.

Horsefumbler

Originally posted by omnicube
yeah i know, your clothes can stink from it. give them a wash for god's sake!!!!

Yeah and sure we can just wash out our lungs aswel! :rolleyes:

omnicube

Originally posted by Horsefumbler
Yeah and sure we can just wash out our lungs aswel! :rolleyes:

sounds like a plan! i know i need it

Doodee

so, now that teh non smoking elite have done away with ciggies in pubs, what shall happen next for our forever solution-to-problems seeking human nature?

Will it be like south park and we get rid of christmas cause its offensive?

ixoy

Originally posted by Doodee
so, now that teh non smoking elite have done away with ciggies in pubs, what shall happen next for our forever solution-to-problems seeking human nature?

Will it be like south park and we get rid of christmas cause its offensive?

Well Christmas doesn't generally give you lung cancer so it's a bit of a trite comparion...

Horsefumbler

no the smoke ban should be sufficiant for the moment

rymus

Originally posted by omnicube
em....i think i just said above that i don't mind the ban, so i think i am over it. but does anyone know if a pub/club has an outdoor part to their building, are people able to smoke there? because it's still on their premises.

A few pubs (including one down the road from me) are planning to put some kind of Smoking area in their car park, probably like an elaborate shed with a few seats in it. Technically I suppose it should be seperate from the main building.

oneweb

Originally posted by Horsefumbler
Yeah and sure we can just wash out our lungs aswel! :rolleyes:

Tried that* . Lungs don't seem to like water tho :dunno: *COUGH*

*Not really, but somethin din't go down right t'other day.

Yay! Can't wait to go out tomorrow to check out the atmosphere Having said that I did notice a huge difference the last few months in the reduction of smokiness.

Dustaz

Originally posted by ixoy
Well Christmas doesn't generally give you lung cancer so it's a bit of a trite comparion...

No, but it causes more deaths than passive smoking. Drunk driving and Suicide go through the roof at christmas.

Ban it I say.

omnicube

true! a lot of people seemed to have cut down on smoking alright. dunno if it's cos of lent of the ban, maybe both! cigarette companies will be losing out on a lotta cash

Guy:Incognito

Originally posted by omnicube
cigarette companies will be losing out on a lotta cash

maybe we shud set up some sort of trocaire style company to help them

Doctor J

Any pubs building smoking rooms ought to be very careful, I can see a rash of future court cases with cancerous claimants blaming liability on the pubs for providing areas where they could smoke and cultivate their illness. Similar to the spate of cases in the US where people sued the cigarrette manufacturers for not telling them the cigarrettes were extremely harmful and by the time they found out they were already addicted.

One could argue the by providing a place for people to smoke that publicans are in fact encouraging people to continue smoking, in contradiction with the spirit of the bill. €€€!

ixoy

Originally posted by Dustaz
No, but it causes more deaths than passive smoking. Drunk driving and Suicide go through the roof at christmas.

Ban it I say.

Well that's a drink and cultural problem, not a Christmas one. God also effectively bans suicide so it's all okay....

Although it'd be really interesting, methinks, to ban drink in Ireland and see how we all cope. And yes, I do drink.

Big Chief

it gets annoying when people insist on bitchin' about how horrible the smokers are

yep, couldnt agree more..

as for the ban, im not a fan of it... people these days seem to be afraid of the fact that death is a natural part of life... your going to die anyway, sure some passive smoke is hardly going to cut 50 years off your life?

besides what ye moaning about you get it for free, im the bugger that has to pay for em

flogen

Any pubs building smoking rooms ought to be very careful, I can see a rash of future court cases with cancerous claimants blaming liability on the pubs for providing areas where they could smoke and cultivate their illness. Similar to the spate of cases in the US where people sued the cigarrette manufacturers for not telling them the cigarrettes were extremely harmful and by the time they found out they were already addicted.

best way around this is a sign saying you enter at your own risk or something stupid like that...

Flogen

Doctor J

It wouldn't stand, legally, I don't think. By going to the effort of continuing a smoking environment in flagrance with the spirit of the law (or as a direct result of) you could definitely argue the are encouraging it. It's an unsafe environment in the same sense that if they had dodgy stairs and put up a sign saying "Caution - Dodgy Stairs" yet anyone who cracks their hoop falling down 'em will have a great case to sue

Dustaz

Originally posted by Doctor J


One could argue the by providing a place for people to smoke that publicans are in fact encouraging people to continue smoking, in contradiction with the spirit of the bill. €€€!

Fair play to them. The spirit of the bill has been ruined by people like you.

Dustaz

Originally posted by Doctor J
It wouldn't stand, legally, I don't think. By going to the effort of continuing a smoking environment in flagrance with the spirit of the law (or as a direct result of) you could definitely argue the are encouraging it. It's an unsafe environment in the same sense that if they had dodgy stairs and put up a sign saying "Caution - Dodgy Stairs" yet anyone who cracks their hoop falling down 'em will have a great case to sue

Jesus, dont you read your own sides laws?

Its perfectly legal to smoke in a non-enclosed area. This includes beer gardens. or sheds with 50% non-enclosure.

Looking forward to the good weather already. Tell me DoctorJ, what beer gardens do you like?

egan007

If i was to go into a pub and piss on the floor nobody would like it. So it's best that doing other discusting things like smoking is not acceptable anymore.

Anti ban people face it - It's not the non smoking you are pissed about it's the "being told what to do"

This will be people policed - the fact that you will go into a pub and nobody else is smoking will make sure you don't.
I'm sure there are pubs today with people smking - but this will eventually die out

Doctor J

Originally posted by Dustaz
Fair play to them. The spirit of the bill has been ruined by people like you.

Ruined? Just thinking out loud is all. Untwist thy knickers, friend!



Edit : typo

oneweb

Originally posted by smoke-me-a-kipper
in the pub were were in, some went outside after 12 (including myself) but in the clubs we went to, no one seemed to care. wait till tomorrow tho.

Haha, imagine the scene if you will...

...scores of Irish people no longer going into pubs, but rather, staying just outside the doors to enjoy themselves on a night out...

kiffer

Originally posted by oneweb
Haha, imagine the scene if you will...

...scores of Irish people no longer going into pubs, but rather, staying just outside the doors to enjoy themselves on a night out...

correction

...scores of Irish smokers no longer going into pubs, but rather, staying just outside the doors to enjoy themselves on a night out...



note I'm not in any way saying that smokers are not people ... far from it.

Cal

Originally posted by #MEAT#
really? I want to see a pic!

Cal

tba

thats not very attractive is it? And I thought the ones in amsterdam were bad

Big Chief

do people actually use them during the day?

or is it primarily there to stop drunks peeing on shop windows?

tba

Originally posted by Big Chief
do people actually use them during the day?

or is it primarily there to stop drunks peeing on shop windows?

I think its modern art

eirebhoy

If that is a picture of the men's urinal, what do the woman get?

Doctor J

Public ironing boards?

Johnny Versace

When I take a pee I drop my pants to the ground.

Do you think this could be a problem?

Doctor J

Depends how much piss is on the ground...