Mod evaluation

Exit

I was just looking at this thread - http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148334 Silly thread, but the thought struck me since there's been a few people complaining about mods recently, would it be a feasable idea to put up polls in each forum asking the regular users to rate their mod? It could be a useful barometer of a moderator's performance.

Maybe it could be done like the forum-wide announcements, and the poll results remain private to everyone but admins. As I said, don't know how feasable an idea it is.

Or you could just hold a big public poll awards ceremony deal for Best Mod

Trojan

Originally posted by Exit
I was just looking at this thread - http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148334 Silly thread, but the thought struck me since there's been a few people complaining about mods recently, would it be a feasable idea to put up polls in each forum asking the regular users to rate their mod? It could be a useful barometer of a moderator's performance.

Will our salaries be linked to the poll results?

Karl Hungus

Well, there's a hell of a lot of muppets around, and chances are they'd just vote down a mod for the sheer muppetness of it. What would happen to said mod if they get low votes? Doesn't strike me as a great idea, tbh.

Exit

Hmmm, yeah you're right. I obviously didn't think it through far enough. Oops

seamus

It'd get my vote tbh.

Maybe a specifically written page where users can give evaluations on mods, and some suggestions. The mods can then read their own personal evaluations, and obviously the admins can read them all.

The only thing is anti-abuse dealies. Obviously, once someone gets banned and has a grievance with a mod, they're going to go and just plain give abuse on this evaluation form. So 1. Users would have to log in, and 2. could only comment once on any mod. If a mod sees a paricularly bad evaluation, an Admin could confirm it came from a particularly annoying/muppetish/angry user and he can disregard it. People also tend not to praise others when they do a good job, instead opting to slate them when they do a poor job, thereby skewing actual results.

Included in this evaluation could be a rating system (1-10), which gets totalled and averaged, and is only viewable by Admins and the mod himself. That way, if a grievance arises, the Admins can review the community's general feeling of the mod. It would also allow mods to see the community's general feeling of them, and adjust any behaviour which they weren't aware annoyed users.

I don't like the idea of a public anonymous poll on each board. Way too open to abuse, imo.

Again, the biggest problem could be the "only speak up when you have a complaint" factor.

So IMO, good idea, but it could prove too much of a logistical problem to do. Remember that mods don't get paid or get any benefits for doing it, so not all mods could give two tits as to what the community thinks of how they mod their boards.

Originally posted by Exit
Or you could just hold a big public poll awards ceremony deal for Best Mod

It was done. Once. Gordon won I think. Check out the Boards Awards board, there were supposed to be plans to do a second.

And cheers for the vote of confidence.

Crash

Originally posted by Trojan
Will our salaries be linked to the poll results?

you mean we can get a percentage of €0.00 based on performance rating? Sweeet...

GuanYin

Originally posted by crash_000
you mean we can get a percentage of €0.00 based on performance rating? Sweeet...

You're a Cmod, Mods get twice that rate!

flogen

good idea exit, and seamus' extention on the idea seems to clear up any bits and bobs regarding it.
you say that each user only has one comment per mod, but would this be ever or in the space of afew months, Im sure it could happen that a mod pisses you off, then a while later is really helpful and you want to give a new rating, or vice versa.
Obviously it could be used for praise as well as complaints

Flogen

Crash

Originally posted by syke
You're a Cmod, Mods get twice that rate!

Yeah they finally realised i was conning them with the Mod bit.....damn flanders. I mean ecksor.

Exit

Originally posted by flogen
good idea exit, and seamus' extention on the idea seems to clear up any bits and bobs regarding it.
you say that each user only has one comment per mod, but would this be ever or in the space of afew months, Im sure it could happen that a mod pisses you off, then a while later is really helpful and you want to give a new rating, or vice versa.
Obviously it could be used for praise as well as complaints

Flogen

Well I was thinking more of a current evaluation, over the space of a forthnight or a month. And then maybe do it once a year or something like that. A continous poll would be difficult to monitor.

Trojan

Originally posted by flogen

you say that each user only has one comment per mod, but would this be ever or in the space of afew months, Im sure it could happen that a mod pisses you off, then a while later is really helpful and you want to give a new rating, or vice versa.
Obviously it could be used for praise as well as complaints

Obviously! (nice afterthought there)

Sure we could have the whole plan supervised by a select group of users (privately of course). Maybe we could call them The Circle Of The Auld Lads With Beards, or T.W.A.T.S. for short.

I propose FloggingADeadHorse for Head_Circular_Guy_With_Beard. Second, anyone?

zAbbo

Just because mods dont get paid(it is voluntary), doesnt mean they can throw that back at the community whenever something like this is discussed

Trojan

Wow, was I "throwing something back at the community"? Cool, I haven't done that since I threw a pint at azezil at the last beers (I missed unfortunately - pity that poor girl in the short skirt!).

Luckily the boards I mod need very little supervision, so when the "Mood" stars start getting handed out I shall hopefully escape notice.

(yes, I think it's a bad idea).

damnyanks

Just get rid of mods all together. Each day set up some random variable that makes someone super mod. Let them run boards for the day.

Paddy20

I do not honestly think that Moderators would want or warrant such time wasting and inherently unfair evaluation.

It would practically turn everyone so enclined in too a Mod ?... :dunno:

P. :ninja:

Lafortezza

FFS
Just pm an admin with the details of why you think a particular mod is doing a bad job. Let the admin go and review the mod's behaviour and sort it out.

Don't make things more complicated than they should be.

Trojan

Interesting idea there damnyanks! Have to say I'm not entirely against that plan.

My alternative was that we could ban the entire user population from boards, leaving only mods. Then there'd be no trouble whatsoever with mods unfairly treating users! It's perfect! No flaws in this plan.

ecksor

We're actually investigating the possibility of setting up a free phone number for this purpose.

Moderators would be required to have the following in their signature:

"How's my moderating? Call 1-800-OPPRESS"

flogen

i detect a note of sarcasm, ecksor....

Flogen

ecksor

This interests me or anyone else how?

Anyway, hurry up with your next suggestion already, I'm sitting on the edge of my seat here.

Trojan

Originally posted by ecksor
Anyway, hurry up with your next suggestion already, I'm sitting on the edge of my seat here.

This is a perfect example of the type of treatment that some users are receiving at the hands of rampaging hoards of vicious moderators and admins. Shame on you ecksor!

Giblet

Originally posted by ecksor
Anyway, hurry up with your next suggestion already, I'm sitting on the edge of my seat here.

Tired of this whole feedback/suggestions thing already eh?

ecksor

Feel free, just keep in mind the boy who cried wolf.

Celt

Only mods can be elite.

Gordon

How do you get the word 'oppress' on a phone? Mine only has numbers...



Oh and I got best rookie poster award :cool: Monty got best mod.

Monty - the one and only

actually it was mightyest mod, dont forget after hours was also voted best board

I personally dont think there can be a best mod, most have to deal with different kinds of people, however there are a few of us that have to deal with just about everyone...All we do is enforce the rules and in some cases keep the peace.

look at your mobile to see how to get the the number:p 6777377

Gordon

Originally posted by Monty - the one and only
look at your mobile to see how to get the the number:p 6777377

I'm looking at my mobile but someone's put a wheel clamp on it.

amp

This thread delivers

ykt0di9url7bc3

well, maybe a mod/poster praise bod like political satire "set up at the top"

when ever a forum members see's some good modding to post up and say thanks....

and any muppets that want to kick up a stink get banned...

it may mean more modding but the muppets will thin out after a while....

but only for certain boards....

as in technology... "cheers for XXXX for solving my driver problem.....good work XXXX"...

PI, science, AH, commuting,

place where people have problems or questions....

could be a better system of karma and properly utilized could give some fine mods/posters some credit* they deserve..


*does not imply money

azezil

please don't judge me, i may cry

po0k

Originally posted by Trojan
This is a perfect example of the type of treatment that some users are receiving at the hands of rampaging hoards of vicious moderators and admins.

Long may it continue.



Bring Back Karma Points

The Corinthian

Some boards have to be modded with an iron fist. That won't make you popular with the Muppets on the board, many of whom will then decide that you're a Nazi and whinge ad nausea here. It's not a popularity contest.

Anyway, they’re all scum anyway. Let them eat Atari Jaguar.

WhiteWashMan

sounds like a good idea to the general idea of what people think of a mod.

let it be noted that a popular mod is not always a good mod, and a good mod, is not always popular...

BuffyBot

Perhaps we should have some sort of council.

Like a council of people who've been on boards a while...no wait, we'll call them elders. Yes, a Council of Elders! Perfect!

Beruthiel

can I say the words 'BITE ME' and still be on topic?

GuanYin

Originally posted by BuffyBot
Perhaps we should have some sort of council.

Like a council of people who've been on boards a while...no wait, we'll call them elders. Yes, a Council of Elders! Perfect!

I read somewhere that Time of the Elders and Queen Beruthiel were linked!

Yes, Beruthiel for Head Elder!!!!

.......feel free to bring family members to council meetings.....

Beruthiel

Yes, Beruthiel for Head Elder!!!!

ya
thanks
will I get a Queenly crown??
I'm only doing it if I get a crown, and a pay rise of course, show me the money!


.......feel free to bring family members to council meetings.....

shadup *slap*

TheElder

The Council of Elders supports BuffyBots proposal, and gives him a harrumph and a pat on the back.
The Council, however, would like to make clear that The Elder is the head elder, and that no other elder shall be head of the council of elders.

that is all

mr_angry

*ahem*


THERE IS NO F***ING COUNCIL OF ELDERS!


Dude, get over it.













muppet

GuanYin

Originally posted by TheElder
The Council of Elders supports BuffyBots proposal, and gives him a harrumph and a pat on the back.
The Council, however, would like to make clear that The Elder is the head elder, and that no other elder shall be head of the council of elders.

that is all

You know Flogen we're laughing at you, not with you!

Becareful, you may upset dirty_latino.... I mean Mr_angry (how did I make that mistake)

GuanYin

Originally posted by Beruthiel


shadup *slap*

You're just angry because I forgot to send you a card yesterday

Hobart

And here's me thinking trolling was a banable offence. :rolleyes:

BuffyBot

Fill in the blank:

Sarcasm is wasted on the _______


I want a crown too!

flogen

Fill in the blank:

Sarcasm is wasted on the _______

erm... deaf?

You know Flogen we're laughing at you, not with you!

If i brought a smile to your face one way or another... then my work here is done... until i come back from college today...

Flogen

GuanYin

Originally posted by flogen
erm... deaf?

Why wouldn't deaf people be able to understand sarcasm exactly?

GuanYin

Originally posted by Hobart
And here's me thinking trolling was a banable offence. :rolleyes:

Its not trolling its foreplay!

(unless you mean flogen in which case its...erm.. hrmm foreplay?)

flogen

Why wouldn't deaf people be able to understand sarcasm exactly?

well because what differenciates sarcasm from comment is the tone, which a deaf person couldnt hear...
so if I say 'yeah I really like that', i could mean it or be sarcastic depending on empahsis and tone.... maybe they could pick up on facial expressions, so i could be wrong, i dunno...

and yes, i am flirting. you decide if im being sarcastic or not...

and of course there is mr_angry, theres just no board to accomodate them, they exist independently from the forums at the moment.

Flogen

bonkey

Originally posted by flogen
well because what differenciates sarcasm from comment is the tone, which a deaf person couldnt hear...

So sarcasm in the written form doesn't exist then.

You really have thought this one through.

jc

flogen

i didnt say that, its just alot harder to differenciate sarcasm from comment when its in text form. You could always use italics and capitals to show empahsis, and of course you can go for the blatent sarcasm like 'yeah, im gonna do that, and then I'll be crowned king of the world forever and ever, and everyone will love me forever and ever', but the more subtle sarcasm is much harder to figure out in plain text

Flogen

Johnny_the_fox

Originally posted by flogen
'yeah, im gonna do that, and then I'll be crowned king of the world forever and ever, and everyone will love me forever and ever'

thats just utter nonsense ... not sarcasm

The Corinthian

Originally posted by bonkey
So sarcasm in the written form doesn't exist then.

So then if I called flogen a shining wit, it wouldn't be sarcasm but it would be a Spoonerism...