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Debate: Oasis or The Darkness

  • 28-02-2004 3:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭


    with the recent events concerning the darkness and oasis id like to know what you people think. IMO the darkness are a talentless joke band taking the p*ss of themselves and everyone else. on the other hand oasis have proven themselves as a great rock 'n' roll band with some of the best albums ever and are still one of the best bands in the world. so a talentless joke band who will be forgotton in a few years or a great band who people will still be listening to for a long time? we will be hearing 'wonderwall' for years to come but we wont be hearing some whining freak going 'i believe in a thing called lllllooooooovvvvvveeeee'.

    what do you think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    I doubt very much you`ll be hearing Wonderwall that often anymore(meg matthews etc.)

    In fairness its like compairing The Beatles to The Monkees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Neither,

    If I'm going to be hearing Wonderwall for years to come I may as well end it all now...

    I dislike both bands a lot, but to be fair, if I hear a Darkness song I don't go out of my way to not hear it. With Oasis, however, I go a running. they're so damn boring. Crap crap crap band! I can see the Darkness being for a while, and tbh, once I don't have to hear Oasis ever again, I'm more than happy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    my personal preference - The Darkness ... this should be a pole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    How can this even be a comparision, The Darkness have had one album(that ive heard) its catchy but not really on the same level as Oasis. Unless you`ve listened to both bands a fair bit, theres no point posting "OMG oAs1S are teh cack" type stuff

    Some of the Oasis bside stuff is class, closest thing to modern day Lennon stuff.

    I guess you either love them or hate em, but at least post something constructive. Listen to The Darkness in 10 years time and tell me how it compairs to "Defintely Maybe"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Senor_Fudge


    they're both ****e tbh

    sorry just had to say it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Thank you senor_fudge for taking 2mins away from your yahoo chat to tie up my misconceptions. If you have nothing to add to the thread, dont post. simple really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Senor_Fudge


    i didnt mean to offend you or anything its just what i think
    lets say i represent the grey area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    IMO Oasis are THE band of the nineties. They had consistency that is paralled by all the other britpop bands.
    They are the type of rare band that come along with a sound so timeless and uplifting that at one time almost EVERYONE liked them. That can hardly be said for the darkness now can it?

    Oasis have had the good grace to have always provided us with great b-side's, sacrificing possible single material. ie, stay young, take me away, underneath the sky, idler's dream, half the world away, shout it out loud, The masterplan, Flashbax. Very few, if any have a catalogue of not even album tracks of this quality.

    You shouldn't judge a band on their most overplayed song ie, wonderwall, that's like judging The Beatles on 'yellow submarine' or something.

    Oasis have suffered the backlash that all successful bands recieve but I urge people to make up their own minds about the issue and or hate oasis just coz it's cool, the same goes for liking the darkness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    This was posted as a debate, surely its alright for someone to say Oasis suck, in their opinion, if they give a valid reason?
    And for mine, I say they were too predictable and boring for my liking. Too bland if you will. IMO, of course! :)

    (And THE band of the ninties was the Smashing Pumpkins ;) hehe)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    Thats fine but saying "Oasis are shi*e' is hardly contributing to the discussion now is it?
    Your argument is fine, i'll accept that, don't just put words in my mouth. IMO Billy Corgan can only sing as well as an average crow, but they did have good songs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Anyone care to list some of these awfu boring Oasis songs?
    There are some dodgy ones, but in general they were easily the band of the 90`s, who appealed to a wide audience. Unlike Smashing Pumpkins, while a good band, didnt have the feel of the generation in the same way as Oasis did, Remember back in `95 when they had around 10 singles in the charts, and even your Granny could tell you which one was Liam and which was Noel. Along with this hype they had the music to back it up as the "biggest band in the world". That was until a less than great 3rd Album and it become fashional to slag them off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    "it become fashional to slag them off"

    I agree here, 'after the first two albums they just got sh*t' has become one of the most overused clichés in the history of music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    I have friends that listen to Oasis, so while unable to name individual song names (apart from the really big ones everybody knows), I can say that I have heard each album several several times, and I find the albums bland and uninteresting. But tis just my point of view, this is a debate! :) Just because you think they were the best band of the ninties, doesn't mean I'm wrong for saying they're boring, and vie-versa. Most people are into simple catchy stuff, White Stripes, Coldplay, Travis, etc, i.e. most people would not sit down and listen to the musical genius and complexity of bands such as Liquid tension Experiment and Cynic, and thats fair enough.
    Remember back in `95 when they had around 10 singles in the charts, and even your Granny could tell you which one was Liam and which was Noel.

    Chart success doesn't make a good band, in fact, the charts seem to permanently display the faults with the music world. ;)
    . IMO Billy Corgan can only sing as well as an average crow

    Quality! Laughed my ass off! :D
    Can I ask what you think of Liam's singing?! :p "Mebeeh... I dun relleh wunneh knouh"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    I admiitted the pumpkins had some great songs, but when it comes to Billy Corgan singing for example, a Zwan song, his lack of vocal ability is really shown up.

    I also said that if you think they're boring then that's fine, i gave about about someone's argument that , oasis are shi*e.

    p.s. don't assume that just because we like Oasis that doesn't mean that we can't appreciate something more complex also. I for one, can say that I definitely appreciate complex musical pieces.

    As for Liam's singing, I do not think that anybody else could sing the oasis songs with the same power. He also can make other people's songs be seen in a whole new light of raw power, see cum on feel the noize, I am the walrus, my generation, street fighting man.

    IS your definition of a boring song something with a slow beat? Please provide examples.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭DerekD Goldfish


    Both should be forced to fight with the loser burned at the stake and the winners...burned at the stake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Oasis are just that MOR band that, musically just doesn't blow me away. They're uninventive and it's painfully obvious that they are trying to be the new Beatles. I also really dislike the Gallagher brothers for their attitude.

    The Darkness, on the other hand, is the first time rock has been so fun in ages. The fact that they are taking the piss IS the best thing about them, they're able to capture the imagination. This has been lost for, what? 20 years?
    No point arguing with rock fans who like their music "nice and proper", but that's a shame, being swayed by the image and all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    The thing about Oasis is that in 1995-1997 they really did capture people's imagination. The Darkness in ten years is barely a plausible thought.

    "they're uninventive and it's painfully obvious that they are trying to be the new Beatles"

    Give me one Oasis song that sounds like any Beatles song. That's all i ask, and if your argument is solid give me ten examples.

    Rock hasn't captured the imagination for twenty years??? Where do you get this?
    What about Blur, Radiohead, The Stone Roses, even the coral, REM, Nirvana, Pumpkins, G 'n' R.
    These bands not as good as the darkness, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭isthisit


    After reading what people are saying about Oasis i have to say that i agree with Bungalow Bill on alot of the things he has said.

    Oasis were the best of the nineties. A great, timeless, talented rock band who just about everyone liked. But it would be pretty hard for them to maintain the huge popularity of circa 1995. But their music has not got worse.

    I agree that nobody could sing and Oasis quite like Liam and he has brought new energy and excitment to classics of the past.

    IMO there aren't many boring Oasis tracks, just great classics and albums. And when it comes to b-sides nobody beats the Gallaghers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    i like them both but i see comparing them like comparing mozart with the cheeky girls


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭James R


    I like both bands but I think the Darkness are being too blown up at the minute. I mean I think its a bit premature for them to be headlining Witnness/Oxegen. I'm not a fan of Bowie at all but at the end of the day he has worked to get where he is and must have about 10+ albums by now. The Darkness on the other hand have just the one album!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,901 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Hey Mossy Monk, you never said which of them was Mozart and which was the Cheeky Girls. ;)

    But that was the point I was gonna make. The two bands are from completely different areas of the whole rock thing. You can't really compare Formula One racing to baking a cake. (And I've no particular leaning to either band, by the way).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    The thing about Oasis is that in 1995-1997 they really did capture people's imagination. The Darkness in ten years is barely a plausible thought.

    Your missing the point. The "sillyness" and grandeur of rock and roll is what has been lost for 20 years, which bands like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Kiss etc. retained. Oasis could never capture the imagination like these bands could.

    And how the hell do you know if The Darkness won't still be around in ten years? It's useless predicting the future.
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    Give me one Oasis song that sounds like any Beatles song. That's all i ask, and if your argument is solid give me ten examples.

    From what I have heard of Oasis, Liam tries to sing and write like John Lennon. For instance, the ends of "She's Electric" and "With a Little Help from My Friends" sound similar, the beginnings of "Imagine" and "Don't Look Back in Anger" sound the same, and "Champagne Supernova" sounds a lot like "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds". The lyrics to the former even share similarities.

    But don't end there; their style and haircuts are similar to The Beatles. They also believe they are just as good as The Beatles.

    Most of the above is fact (even Noel has admitted to "borrowing" some of his songs from them) so you either lump it or dump it. Personally, if you're just looking for another Oasis record to sing along to, that's fine, but personally I want to listen to something a little more original or challenging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    em Liam does indeed try to sound like John Lennon, more so Johnny Rotten imo. Theres nothing wrong with building on previous greats, The Beatles themselves borrowed greatly on there previous generation, Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, Elvis et al

    There are similarities between Oasis and the Beatles, but as someone once said "Good Borrows, Genius Steals" if it was so easy to just copy beatles songs we`d all be doing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    "From what I have heard of Oasis, Liam tries to sing and write like John Lennon. For instance, the ends of "She's Electric" and "With a Little Help from My Friends" sound similar, the beginnings of "Imagine" and "Don't Look Back in Anger" sound the same, and "Champagne Supernova" sounds a lot like "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds". The lyrics to the former even share similarities."

    None of those songs sound even vaguely similar! Yes the beginning of 'don't look back in anger' but that is just a small tribute and the riff is used nowhere else in the song.

    "And how the hell do you know if The Darkness won't still be around in ten years? It's useless predicting the future"

    Eh....the fact that most people see them as a joke novelty band is partly the reason!
    And I didn't say it for definite i said it was barely plausible, given the silliness of their act.

    "Your missing the point. The "sillyness" and grandeur of rock and roll is what has been lost for 20 years, which bands like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Kiss etc. retained. Oasis could never capture the imagination like these bands could."

    Now your comparing the darkness to Led Zeppelin??? And forgive us if we don't like our music 'silly'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭isthisit


    From what I have heard of Oasis, Liam tries to sing and write like John Lennon. For instance, the ends of "She's Electric" and "With a Little Help from My Friends" sound similar, the beginnings of "Imagine" and "Don't Look Back in Anger" sound the same, and "Champagne Supernova" sounds a lot like "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds". The lyrics to the former even share similarities.

    These Oasis tracks have "borrowed" riffs etc. from Beatles tracks. the intro to 'Don't Look Back In Anger' and the final riff of 'Shes Electric'. But they are not excessivly used and couldn'r really be classed as ripoffs.
    But don't end there; their style and haircuts are similar to The Beatles. They also believe they are just as good as The Beatles.

    Quite simply their haircuts dont matter. It's the music that counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    IS your definition of a boring song something with a slow beat? Please provide examples.

    God no. I like as many slow tracks as I do up-tempo tracks.

    My definition of a boring song: unimaginative and uninteresting, linear, and predictable. Generally a song that doesn't please my ears or my mind due to the aforementioned reasons. You seem to be unable to accept the fact that I can describe Oasis in the same manner. It's all down to opinion, get over it. You love them, well done, have a cracker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭isthisit


    My definition of a boring song: unimaginative and uninteresting, linear, and predictable. Generally a song that doesn't please my ears or my mind due to the aforementioned reasons. You seem to be unable to accept the fact that I can describe Oasis in the same manner. It's all down to opinion, get over it. You love them, well done, have a cracker.

    It is all down to opinion ultimately yes. But what i have a problem with is the large amount of people who liked Oasis in 1995/6, but started saying that they became sh*t after Be Here Now because it became popular to think that. They are just following the flock, the flock of sheep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Be Here Now is not a bad album at all. much better than a lot of the **** going around atm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Originally posted by isthisit
    It is all down to opinion ultimately yes. But what i have a problem with is the large amount of people who liked Oasis in 1995/6, but started saying that they became sh*t after Be Here Now because it became popular to think that. They are just following the flock, the flock of sheep.

    People do that in regards to all of life aspects. Just look at Man Utd, Ferrari, etc... They are sheep, and deserve to be burnt at the stake. And then eaten, with a fine curry sauce, yummy! :D
    People who change their opinions to fit in with someone elses need to have their legs broken! ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭The Phenom


    What are yous doing you cant possibly have this debate yet Oasis have been around for ages and have a huge reputation while The Darkness have just came along a while ago. There in to different leagues at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Hey Oasis are just boring, and Liam whines too much, the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Originally posted by Giblet
    Hey Oasis are just boring, and Liam whines too much, the end.

    How many posts did it take me to get that point across?! :D

    I envy your english skills Giblet! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    "Hey Oasis are just boring, and Liam whines too much, the end. "

    Obviously a genius writing here and why did we spend ages discussing if this was so blatantly the only conclusion???

    Well in case you didn't realise I'm being sarcastic here dipsh*t. Boring bands don't sell millions of records and if they do it's to 8yr old or 80yr olds. Oasis have a loyal fanbase of 15-35 year olds.

    And as for your comment about Liam being whiney, the exact same could be said for billy corgan, thom yorke, damien rice and loads of others. This isn't even bringing stupid american rock bands who at 30+ still seem to suffer from teenage angst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    None of those songs sound even vaguely similar! Yes the beginning of 'don't look back in anger' but that is just a small tribute and the riff is used nowhere else in the song.
    Well I'm not going to continue arguing about this. The fact is is that Oasis coy alot from The Beatles. If you are content with that, that's fine, I don't care.
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    Eh....the fact that most people see them as a joke novelty band is partly the reason!
    And I didn't say it for definite i said it was barely plausible, given the silliness of their act.
    How about Kiss, a band that are arguably sillier than The Darkness and have been around together longer than the two in-question bands combined. They are still alive and well.
    All in all, the statement you made is a little unjustified and very biased. It's still very appearant that you pass off the The Darkness because their image/videos have a humourous aspect about them.
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    Now your comparing the darkness to Led Zeppelin???
    First off, I wasn't comparing any bands at all. And even if I was, it wouldn't make it morally wrong to, or undermine any band in either way. The fact that you see a problem with this just proves how irrational and irrelevant your arguements are.
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    And forgive us if we don't like our music 'silly'.
    Taking my points literally? Why? I explained what I meant by this. Go back and read my post.
    Originally posted by isthisit
    These Oasis tracks have "borrowed" riffs etc. from Beatles tracks. the intro to 'Don't Look Back In Anger' and the final riff of 'Shes Electric'. But they are not excessivly used and couldn'r really be classed as ripoffs.
    I didn't say they were ripping off The Beatles, I said they were trying to be the new Beatles, a Beatles for the ninties if you will. Why this is such an issue, I don't know, but in my opinion, it doesn't appeal to me. It has just left them too unoriginal.
    Originally posted by isthisit
    Quite simply their haircuts dont matter. It's the music that counts.
    Still a valid point, I believe. But if it really is the music that counts, then why does The Darkness' humorous image come into the equation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    "Well I'm not going to continue arguing about this. The fact is is that Oasis copy alot from The Beatles. If you are content with that, that's fine, I don't care."

    That was my point, this is not a fact, it is a silly statement made my some uneducated fool. The truth is is that the beginning of don't look back.... was a tribute and neither further featured nor added to the song. That IS a fact.

    "Now your comparing the darkness to Led Zeppelin???"

    I said this in relation to you grouping them in the same category, Led Zeppellin were not 'silly'.

    "The fact is is that Oasis copy a lot from The Beatles"
    "I didn't say they were ripping off The Beatles"

    Do YOU even know what you are trying to say?


    "QUOTE]Originally posted by isthisit
    Quite simply their haircuts dont matter. It's the music that counts.

    Still a valid point, I believe. But if it really is the music that counts, then why does The Darkness' humorous image come into the equation?"

    There is a huge difference between people having similar haircuts and a band arriving in a spaceship to an award show, wearing tails, trying to appeal to 6year old girls and rock fans alike, and the fact that they are regularly compared with the pisstake band spinal tap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    Boring bands don't sell millions of records and if they do it's to 8yr old or 80yr olds. Oasis have a loyal fanbase of 15-35 year olds.

    Many of whom delight us with their fashionable tracksuits, lack of hair, and classy jewellery, and enjoy drinking Dutch Gold in a field somewhere.*

    On a serious note, are you actually tring to say that because Oasis dont have 8 or 80 year old fans they're not boring, but those that do have 8 or 80 year old fans and sell millions of records are boring? What you essentially said just there is that because alot teenagers and young adults like Oasis they're not boring. Round of applause to you, ol' chum.



    *If you cant take that with a pinch of salt you've got your tongue too far up Liams colon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    both crap but darkness are less annoying outta the two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    "Boring bands don't sell millions of records and if they do it's to 8yr old or 80yr olds. Oasis have a loyal fanbase of 15-35 year olds. "

    This is a valid comment, don't just rubbish it. I was making the point that with Oasis' fanbase being the most fickle demographic then if they were boring then surely they wouldn't be so successful .ie, Old people like Daniel o' Donnell and really young people like westlife.


    "Many of whom delight us with their fashionable tracksuits, lack of hair, and classy jewellery, and enjoy drinking Dutch Gold in a field somewhere.*

    Am I actually supposed to respond to this, you say take it with with a pinch of salt but the comment didn't come from nowhere, you obviously have certain preconceptions about what type of person I am, and I assure you, I am not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    "Boring bands don't sell millions of records and if they do it's to 8yr old or 80yr olds. Oasis have a loyal fanbase of 15-35 year olds.

    Oh I'm sorry, you want me to tell you what I find boring.
    Well prepare for the longest post ever.....

    Oh wait, it's quite simple, their simple, uninspiring music, makes me yawn, I yawn when I'm tired, or bored. Your comment about the 15-30 demographic also has no merit, as 90% or this demographic would listen to almost anything, or have no distinguished taste in music, and no, I don't mean this in a "holier than thou" way from my perspective, just that they don't care what they listen to, and like anything "catchy"

    Good enough for you.

    Britney Spears also sells millions of CD's, does this mean I can't have an opinion on her music either.

    Why bother to talk about other artists who are whiney, we are "discussing" Oasis aren't we, so please feel free to justify why you like Oasis, but don't try and justify why I should....dipshit.

    As to the question, "why did we spend ages here when that was the obvious conclusion"

    It's because I'm smarter than you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    Am I actually supposed to respond to this, you say take it with with a pinch of salt but the comment didn't come from nowhere, you obviously have certain preconceptions about what type of person I am, and I assure you, I am not.

    Did that count as a response?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭Spunog UIE


    Originally posted by Giblet
    Oh I'm sorry, you want me to tell you what I find boring.
    Well prepare for the longest post ever.....

    Oh wait, it's quite simple, their simple, uninspiring music, makes me yawn, I yawn when I'm tired, or bored. Your comment about the 15-30 demographic also has no merit, as 90% or this demographic would listen to almost anything, or have no distinguished taste in music, and no, I don't mean this in a "holier than thou" way from my perspective, just that they don't care what they listen to, and like anything "catchy"

    Good enough for you.

    Britney Spears also sells millions of CD's, does this mean I can't have an opinion on her music either.

    Why bother to talk about other artists who are whiney, we are "discussing" Oasis aren't we, so please feel free to justify why you like Oasis, but don't try and justify why I should....dipshit.

    As to the question, "why did we spend ages here when that was the obvious conclusion"

    It's because I'm smarter than you.

    haha.... !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    That was my point, this is not a fact, it is a silly statement made my some uneducated fool. The truth is is that the beginning of don't look back.... was a tribute and neither further featured nor added to the song. That IS a fact.
    So if that was your point, we are in an agreement that Oasis coy alot from The Beatles? Thank God that's over with!
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    I said this in relation to you grouping them in the same category, Led Zeppellin were not 'silly'.
    Led Zeppelin WERE silly, just lighten up! While I wouldn't call them the silliest band during the 70's and definetly wouldn't use them as a direct comparison to The Darkness, they were big guitar rock and didn't take everything so seriously, elements that The Darkness clearly portray.
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    "The fact is is that Oasis copy a lot from The Beatles"
    "I didn't say they were ripping off The Beatles"
    Do YOU even know what you are trying to say?
    Um... yes, I said to coy, which is to take influence from something. Just read my damn post and stop editing my sentences!
    Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
    There is a huge difference between people having similar haircuts and a band arriving in a spaceship to an award show, wearing tails, trying to appeal to 6year old girls and rock fans alike, and the fact that they are regularly compared with the pisstake band spinal tap.
    My question is still unanswered. What is this? A last ditch attempt to deter me from the band? I already know they are taking the piss, and the fact that you prescribed them to a six-year old fanbase is truely unfair indeed. And Spinal Tap rules.

    But you've just pointed out the best thing about The Darkness. Name another rock band that would risk doing this (it is partly glam rock after all), and still manage to put on such a rockin' good show? Not really looking for a reply here, this thread has really just watered down far much which your ridiculous misconceptions. I leave you now with my original posts and you see if anything has developed;
    Oasis are just that MOR band that, musically just doesn't blow me away. They're uninventive and it's painfully obvious that they are trying to be the new Beatles. I also really dislike the Gallagher brothers for their attitude.

    The Darkness, on the other hand, is the first time rock has been so fun in ages. The fact that they are taking the piss IS the best thing about them, they're able to capture the imagination. This has been lost for, what? 20 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    "Hey Oasis are just boring, and Liam whines too much, the end."

    See this is the thing, I have said why I think Oasis are a great band(see my first post). I spoken at length throughout this thread why I think so. This quote you see at the top was the subtotal of your argument!

    The FACT of the matter is that what I said about the demographic IS TRUE. If a band selling millions of albums to young(ish) people begin to get boring and diminish in quality then they will go downhill very, very fast. Oasis after being hyped as the 'world's greatest band' still have legions of fans who believe this.

    "Why bother to talk about other artists who are whiney, we are "discussing" Oasis aren't we, so please feel free to justify why you like Oasis, but don't try and justify why I should....dip****."

    You said Liam was whiney and I quite simply said that that was a stupid comment because that can be said about almost any rock singer. Ironically Oasis are a notoriously feel-good band!


    "feel free to justify why you like Oasis, but don't try and justify why I should....dip****"

    In practice these two things serve the very same purpose!

    And also please provide examples of songs that you like that aren't "catchy", isn't this the essence of a song??If there is nothing memorable about it then how can it be good???

    "Britney Spears also sells millions of CD's, does this mean I can't have an opinion on her music either."

    Eh...nobody said you couldn't. It just has to be informed and discussive and not 'shoving it down our throats'.

    Anything else smartass???


    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    And the other guy.......

    "Led Zeppelin WERE silly"

    You would not catch Led Zeppelin singing "Love is only a feeling" or "Don't let the bells end"

    The bit from 'Imagine' "neither further featured nor added to the song". I certainly was not in agreement with you.

    "The fact is is that Oasis coy a lot from The Beatles"

    True, but all bands have their influences and can only create by adapting what they already know.
    Apologies I thought it was a misspelling.

    "you prescribed them to a six-year old fanbase is truely unfair indeed"

    No it's not. They are on cd:uk every turnabout and have supported Robbie Williams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Didn't Robbie Williams used to be in Oasis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭AL][EN


    dont really hate either band but tbh the darkness are a fresh upbeat band something new to listen to, everyones herd of oasis and everyone knows there lyrics, herd there songs a million times before, so it gets old really,

    i actually like quite a few of the darkness songs, i'd deff go to see em in concert however i dont think id go see oasis unless they were playing at a festival or something, my vote goes to the darkness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    Giblet

    "It's because I'm smarter than you"

    While I was reading the thread for rock/metal, I see that you like METALLICA! HAhaHAhaHAhaHAha.

    Don't ever make such a stupid statement again about my, or your lack of, intelligence. It is only someone suffering from a severe case of ignorance that would say such a thing:p

    You insult my music tastes but like the band that released 'frantic'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Oh did I now, because it looks to me like I was slagging the guy above, and saying that they should of broken up years ago, because they are shit.

    You are an idiot, I suggest you read, and re-read, and re-re-read that post again.

    God you really have shown your ignorance and stupidity.
    Now go back to listening to your G chord music and talk to your equally ignorant mates about how Liam is a genius, and how your "mad for it"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Don't forget the Dutch Gold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Originally posted by f®eak s©enery
    Led Zeppelin WERE silly, just lighten up! While I wouldn't call them the silliest band during the 70's and definetly wouldn't use them as a direct comparison to The Darkness, they were big guitar rock and didn't take everything so seriously, elements that The Darkness clearly portray.
    I like Zeppelin, but I think they did take things a bit too seriously.
    Ever see The Song Remains The Same? The film parts of that were all deadly serious from what I know (i.e. total pretention, besides Bonham and the drag racing/drinking pints in a pub).
    Also when Page used a bow to play guitar in concert I don't think he was trying to amuse people :)

    Oh yeah, back on topic:
    Oasis - Bland, adequate musicians, bad lyrics, best left in the mid 90s.
    Darkness - Bad rip-off of Spinal Tap.


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