Brazil Starting 11 named

L5

Brazil team v Ireland (4-3-3) Dida, Cafu, Lucio, R Junior, Carlos, Gilberto,
Kleberson, Ze Roberto, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Ronaldo.

uberwolf

Its not that great a side IMO, front 3 aside.

L5

Its probably their strongest side.

Cyrus

They'll still hockey us!

Weak links are roque junior and thats about it, the rest are class, cant wait to watch kaka!

Gillie

Has the irish side been named yet lads?

L5

I dont think the irish team has been announced yet.

Lafortezza

what strong players are missing from that lineup?
4-1 to Brazil

bizmark

:dunno: their comeing here to kick our ass arent they

The Muppet

Originally posted by L5
I dont think the irish team has been announced yet.

We're going for the surprise element.

bdiddy

they've come to take our innocence. At least its a real test before going over to take on Pires,Henry,Saha and co.


P.S. Is Zidane still playin International football? please say no.

bizmark

We're going for the surprise element.

Not turning up would be a suprise

uberwolf

sorry wasn't trying to say that wasn't their strongest line up, more that their defensive unit is pants, Duff and Keane could havemade sh*t of them, keane still may.

Cyrus

tbh mate i dont agree, three of the back four would walk into any side in the world?

Kone

Originally posted by Cyrus
tbh mate i dont agree, three of the back four would walk into any side in the world?

Have to agree!

Ronaldo7

R Junior

The weak link and even he seems to play well for his country.

Easily their strongest team.

Kleberson will play like a God for Brazil...always does.

The front three will just destroy us...

uberwolf

Carlos is the most overrated player in world football. He can hit the ball hard and frequently does. Of course he'll occasionally avoid the crowd and score but that probability for you.

R Junior. No comment necessary. see Leeds.

Cafu is decent but I'd put any of our top two choice right backs in place as a defender instead. As an attacker he is a threat.

Lucio - you watch the same world cup I did?

Gilberto - not a first choice premiership player

Kleberson - a/a

Ze roberto - v.good attacking player.

Front three, world class as already acknowleged.

My point is they're not world class through the team in their respective positions.

Cyrus

Lucio has had a few bad games but imo is a very good cb, not as solid as say sol campbell but still a good player,

i rate carlos does the business in every game he plays, ditto cafu

Ive rarely seen gilberto out of the arsenal side, very underrated player, kleberson starting to find his feet in EPL

uberwolf

Juve vs Real Madrid 1st leg last yr, Carlos caught of position so many times it was scary. Inter got rid of him cos he was crap as a left back and he couldn't make the grade as a winger where they played him. And that was juve playing without wingers. Admittedly he scored the winner but he shoots so often he'll occasionaly score. (See Berger)

No debate on Roque Junior. fair enuff. not getting on any team. even leeds

Lucio not walking into any team in the world. fair enuff.

Cafu solid but not staright into any team in the world.

Kleberson - not straight onto his club side. So not onto any team in the world

Gilberto - first choice for arsenal this season but hardly better than gerrard, viera, keane. So not straight onto any team in the world.

they are good not great. People see yellow and get dazzled. by jersey and not football

SheroN

they are good not great. People see yellow and get dazzled. by jersey and not football

did you not watch the football this set of players played in the last world cup?

uberwolf

yes. beat germany(a good german side ), costa rica, Belgium, china, england without Owen(effectively), Turkey by a dodgy penalty. Far from a classic world cup, poxy korea in the semi's. you're weaking your argument here.

SheroN

who's better than brazil then?

bizmark

France :dunno:

uberwolf

they came 4th in their WC qualifying group. so those three teams at least.

I was told that 3 of their back 4 would walk into any team in the world. This is clearly not the case.

SheroN

I agree with you there, but i don't think "more solid" defenders would suit the style of play of the team. But as a collective they're the best team in the world.

as for france? how many games did they win at the last WC?:)

uberwolf

Spain, Holland? in full flow.

SheroN

Holland didn't qualify for the last world cup.
Spain have never won anything, or really looked like winning anything ,once they get to a major finals?

Gillie

Originally posted by uberwolf
Spain, Holland? in full flow.

Spain - Biggest underachievers in WC/EC in recent history
Holland - the same. Sick of hearing "Holland. The greatest team to never win the WC. They didn't win it coz they're not good enough!:rolleyes:

uberwolf

I know. I believe that Brazil are consistently approached with too much respect meaning that they're sat back against, meaning they can play their footbal. If they weren't allowed do this then it would be a diff story. The team holland should have brought to the WC, the team Spain left in the qaulifying campaign. Give those teams the attitude of an Irish team and you'd see a change.

Emboss

Originally posted by The Muppet
We're going for the surprise element.

rofl

krinpit

Originally posted by uberwolf
they came 4th in their WC qualifying group. so those three teams at least.

Indeed, that is correct, BUT

They did so without almost any of their European based (ie: worldclass) players. All of whom are playing tonight.

Really looking forward to it. Would be great to get a bloodied nose from a wayward Roberto Carlos free kick

uberwolf

Originally posted by krinpit
bloodied nose from a wayward Roberto Carlos free kick

you're in the top row so?

edit, Kaka and ronaldo scored their goals in their home draw with urugauy(their last game). And diego "if you're not scousers I'm not going to score" Forlan scored two of urugauys. So i'm not so sure about player unavailablity

eirebhoy

Uberwolf - While I agree that Cafu is getting on a bit and Roque Junior didn't have a very good time at Leeds I disagree that R.Carlos is overrated. He is underrated as a defensive player, he does more than you think and he is world class when he attacks. Jason McAteer is going to have sometime.:p BTW, R.Carlos said his favourite club in Madrid is the Irish Rover and he actually brought Beckham ther a few times.:D

As for Lucio, I haven't seen a lot of him but I'd sa he is overrated because he is so good in CM, it happens you know.

The Muppet

Originally posted by eirebhoy
Jason McAteer is going to have sometime.:p BTW, R.Carlos said his favourite club in Madrid is the Irish Rover and he actually brought Beckham ther a few times.:D

No doub Carlos is planking himself at the prospect of coming up against the Boy Jas who will bamboozel him with his silky skills and legendary scouse wit.

I wonder what master plan Ronaldo has to outwit the Irish defence?

krinpit

Originally posted by uberwolf
Kaka and ronaldo scored their goals in their home draw with urugauy(their last game). And diego "if you're not scousers I'm not going to score" Forlan scored two of urugauys. So i'm not so sure about player unavailablity

Yes, but it WAS Brazil's last game and they needed to win it, so I would say that is why they suddenly became available for that match.

:dunno:

MrJoeSoap

I wonder what master plan Ronaldo has to outwit the Irish defence?

Showing up would bamboozle Breen & Co. I have a vision of John O'Shea nutmegging Ronaldo. We'll just have to wait and see.

GuanYin

Originally posted by The Muppet
No doub Carlos is planking himself at the prospect of coming up against the Boy Jas who will bamboozel him with his silky skills and legendary scouse wit.

I wonder what master plan Ronaldo has to outwit the Irish defence?

Its a pity you don't show a quater of the unwavering support for Ireland as you do Utd.... of course... you're obviously from Manchester.......


:rolleyes:

uberwolf

Originally posted by krinpit
Yes, but it WAS Brazil's last game and they needed to win it, so I would say that is why they suddenly became available for that match.

:dunno:

I would say you were wrong. the game I was refering to was their current qaulifying campaign. the sqaud is here
full team to pick from a la fifa rules.

krinpit

Thanks for that link uberwolf

Should be a great occassion this evening! I'm especially looking forward to Ronaldo, and watching his movements off the ball.

uberwolf

Originally posted by krinpit

Should be a great occassion this evening!

I'll be drinking to that

Kone

Well I am just looking forward to being in the North Terrace and watching a good game of football

StickyMcGinty

were gonna do well lads!! look at the games that we were huge underdogs in before (portugal & holland wc2002 qual, germany wc2002, the macaroons in wc2002 to name the recent ones!) and we got somthin. we are a VERY hard team to beat in landsdown road, switzerland were the 1st team in nearly 6 years to beat us there. east terrace here i come!!!

eirebhoy

Originally posted by VinnyL
switzerland were the 1st team in nearly 6 years to beat us there. east terrace here i come!!!

with the exception of the Nigerians.;)

Draupnir

Who fancies getting a song going tonight

"gary breen is a homosexual"

if we get enough to start it then you might be able to hear it on telly, man I hate gary breen

eirebhoy

Originally posted by Draupnir
Who fancies getting a song going tonight

"gary breen is a homosexual"

if we get enough to start it then you might be able to hear it on telly, man I hate gary breen

If I was given the chance to play for my country i'd take it in a second. go away!

Draupnir

your probably better than Breen as well eirebhoy

eirebhoy

Originally posted by Draupnir
your probably better than Breen as well eirebhoy

My point is. If most people were given the chance to play for their country they would take it. Why do yo hate Breen for not been as good as you would have liked?

The Muppet

Originally posted by syke
Its a pity you don't show a quater of the unwavering support for Ireland as you do Utd.... of course... you're obviously from Manchester.......


:rolleyes:

Who Rattled your cage. I'll support who I want to support and dont need any lecturing from the likes of you thanks all the same.





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Draupnir

I hate him as a footballer, he may well be the nicest bloke in the world, but I think he is ****e and I have no confidence in the big donkey.

Villain

Breen has done a pretty decent Job for Ireland in the past but I think his playing days for Ireland should be in the past.

I'd back O'Brien or Dunne with Cuningham

MrJoeSoap

If I was given the chance to play for my country i'd take it in a second.

Or someone elses country? Isnt Breen from London, making him a plastic Paddy?

krinpit

Originally posted by MrJoeSoap
Or someone elses country? Isnt Breen from London, making him a plastic Paddy?

Don't start that ****