Magic Online?

imp

Just something I've been wondering. Has anyone here tried the online version of Magic that Wizards runs?

I'm not particularly interested in subscribing or anything (I give them enough of my money for the moment), but I'm interested to find out what people think of it. Is it any good??

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Ivan

Its tripe, in my personal opinion.

Whats the point in being able to play electronically if you still have to buy each card you want to play with.

Personally I prefer Apprentice, as you can use any card ever printed to make your decks.

Much better.

Funky

you got an url for apprentice , few decks id love to try out

Raphael

I was just about to ask that

imp

Hmm... found this on google: http://www.magic-league.com/Guides/ApprDownload.php

Only the links for the basic version seem to work at the above URL... so if anyone knows where to get the full version it'd be appreciated...

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Funky

i tried that but the links wouldnt work

imp

A lot of those links seem to be broken atm, I've copied the working ones here:

Basic edition (Win95/98): http://hammer.prohosting.com/~jgkorn99/software/appr146.exe
http://mtglink.hypermart.net/file/appr146.exe
http://www.pokemon-trading-cards.net/apprentice/download/appr146.exe

Dark Steel Patch: http://mtg.rpg.net.pl/download/Apprentice/darksteelupdate.zip

I'll keep searching for other sources

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Ivan

Darksteel patch.

Apprentice

Also it seems to be down at the moment, so I dont know.

imp

Actually Magic WorkStation's not looking too bad: http://www.magicworkstation.com/

Also MWS assistant to download the images for it: http://www.mwsdata.com/mwsassist.html

<edit>'Tis only shareware tho</edit>

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Funky

Anyone wanna play a few games at some stage?

we could make an irc channel or something for getting games...
if anyone's interested come to #rd^ on irc

sionnach

ive been playin using apprentice onl lan, pretty good when u get the hang of it. Stupid feckin dcu firewall blocks me from playing online tho. If ONLY someone knew the director of computer services in dcu *cough* *cough* now WHERE could we find such a person *cough*

imp

I think #magic.ie looks a little more inviting, don't you? I'm in there at the moment, if a few people want to join the room we could get an L bot and start using the room to co-ordinate some online games?? Just a thought...

(QNet by the way)

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sionnach

Originally posted by imp
I think #magic.ie looks a little more inviting, don't you? I'm in there at the moment, if a few people want to join the room we could get an L bot and start using the room to co-ordinate some online games?? Just a thought...

lol he just meant he could b found in rd its a cs clan channel

imp

Heh... I'm not known for my knowledge of Counter-Strike clans... or my ability to play the game to any real degree

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Raphael

whats apprentice???

where can i get it???

imp

Apprentice >> http://hammer.prohosting.com/~jgkorn99/software/appr146.exe
Dark Steel Patch >> http://mtg.rpg.net.pl/download/Apprentice/darksteelupdate.zip

Magic WorkStation >> http://detonator.balthost.ee/download/mws094d.exe
MWS Magic Pack >> http://www.magicworkstation.com/download/mtg_gamepack.exe
MWS Assistant >> http://www.mwsdata.com/download/MWSAssist.zip

All these links were working yesterday, if not let me know and I'll find some new ones or upload my copies.

Apprentice and MWS are basically unofficial programs for playing Magic Online. I only tried MWS for the first time yesterday but I have to say, so far, I think I prefer it.

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Ivan

Originally posted by imp

Apprentice and MWS are basically unofficial programs for playing Magic Online. I only tried MWS for the first time yesterday but I have to say, so far, I think I prefer it.
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*Ahem*
I cant speak for MWS but apprentice has been out for ALOT longer than Magic Online. In fact I heard some talk that Magic Online was a way to get the money from those people who would play apprentice and never buy a card :P

I think I'll try out MWS now actually...

Where can I get games for it?

I go onto Efnet and join #apprentice to get games for apprentice.

Oh, in case I forget, there is also a program called Net Draft. Its an excellent prog for drafting online. You can host a game, select booster packs & voila. You can play your decks afterwards in apprentice

Join #e-draft on Efnet to find one to join or to announce yours.

Can be found here.

imp

Magic's the only game available for MWS so far, you can get it here:
http://www.magicworkstation.com/download/mtg_gamepack.exe

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Ivan

I think this would be better as you have to download the magic work station program also or so it seems.

Edit : I take it all back, it seems pretty fúcking class. Might be some problems with find games though. Might look into buying it.

It seems to be though there might be problems somewhere down the line from WotC

Although I see they dont have the mana tap symbol as thats Trademarked or copyright, or whichever.

Very cool though.

sionnach

hrmm the magic workstation has a proxy options thingy, so i might be able to play it online

Ivan

Uh, I thought the proxy facilitation was for printing out Real life proxies. You know, for decks you want to build but dont have the cards for?

Also I think its limited to a single page of proxies (approx 6 copies) for the shareware version.

Raphael

Hmmm, anyone wanna help me out here, im trying to use apprentice, but the only IP i have is my router (which doesnt work) and my 192.168..... which is no good



Anyone want to help me here???

sionnach

Originally posted by Ivan
Uh, I thought the proxy facilitation was for printing out Real life proxies. You know, for decks you want to build but dont have the cards for?

Also I think its limited to a single page of proxies (approx 6 copies) for the shareware version.

lol i meant proxy in the network sense

Ivan

Originally posted by sionnach
lol i meant proxy in the network sense

Oh, uh... yeah, thats what I meant...

article6

I've tried that Apprentice system, it's not bad actually, but I wouldn't feel confident enough to use it online yet. It's a little user-unfriendly.

I'll keep this thread in mind if I'm looking for duels.

Funky

apprentice is definitely trickier than magic workshop to use but it still does the job, you can type and explain what your doing as you do it if theres not specific functions for what youre trying to do

Raphael

Yeah, its grand once you get the hang on it, i got it yesterday, and i already whooped funky round the place a few times

Funky

hey i won one or two bitch :P

Raphael

Yeah, but you still suck

Ivan

Originally posted by Raphael
Yeah, but you still suck

*cough* *cough*

*Ahem*

That is all.

:ninja:

Justice

i d/l the magic online last summer (and paid for it )

never actually got to play it cause i installed it in my work PC, then i lost interest and never went back to it.

for ould times sake id luv a game, so which system is going to be the defacto standard?
Apprentice OR
magic workshop ?

i'll Download the most popular one according to here/

Skyclad

Apprentice.

On IRC - (Efnet), #mtg, #apprentice, #mtgireland (sometimes).

Theres also an Irish clan on magic online with all the Irish players in it.

Dave

Ivan

Definitely Apprentice, imho.

Much higher player base.

MatthewVII

just out of curiosity, does anyone know how to play creatures face down in apprentice without showing ur opponent what it is? i cant seem to find how to do it, with the result that i play the thing face up and then turn it face down, allowing my opponent to se exactly what i played. es muy annoying

Raphael

Funky worked out a good trick, just leave it in your hand and put down a counter

MatthewVII

hey, handeh. thx raph

Ivan

Hold shift & drag the card to the board. It comes into play face down.

That works for most things too.

If you hold shift & select the draw button, you can choose how many cards you draw.

If you hold shift & select the plus or minus to life, you can choose how much life you lose.

Experiment with it, tis pretty useful

Raphael

How do you install a patch, im having trouble doing it (broke my HD and lost where it was installed)

article6

If memory serves me right, you unzip the .zip file to your main Apprentice folder. All the compressed files will go to the correct sub-folders themselves.

Raphael

Thanks, Ill try that later

Griffon

where can you find online magic gathering games.

Leman_Russ

I need some help on Magic Online.

I recently changed from a "dail up" BB connection to an always on Conection.
Now whenever I try to log in to MOL I get the "Your not connected" error.

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Ivan

Well, based on no other info, apart from these few nuggets, I'm just gonna have a guess and say its probably due to your dsl modem/router not forwarding the right ports for MOL.

Leman_Russ

Ok, so any idea how to fix it then? I have no idea

Ivan

Try magic online tech support

Or you could try googling for details on how to set up port forwarding with your router. Or contact your ISP.

OR you could try http into your router. You do this by opening your internet browser and typing in the ip of your router. Usually its something like 192.168.0.1 so type http://192.168.0.1

Then enter your username and password and look for a portforwarding tab.

Now you need to know what port to open for magic online, you could google, ask someone or open the command prompt. Then open Magic online and try to connect to the server. Next alt & tab to the command prompt and run netstat to see what ports are being used by what programs. Your firewall program may help you figure it out either.

Anyway, use the port number and tell the modem/router to forward any connections on the magic online port to your ip. You can find your ip by opening the command prompt and typing in ipconfig.

Now, how to tell your modem/router to forward any connections on the magic online port to your ip, depends on your router. I suggest contacting google, if you have any problems.

...well, you did say you had no idea

Btw, by following these instructions you have agreed to a legally binding contract where you pay me €250 for services rendered*.



* Only if you want to.

Vorak

Hey, i couldnt get the pictures working for magic workstation, anyone else have that prob. Used to be big into magic, anyone know a way of playing it without spending money?

Ivan

From what I can see Apprentice and MWS have kinda gone down hill since this time last year. Magic Online seems to be the big dawg now.

Farcear

Ivan wrote:

From what I can see Apprentice and MWS have kinda gone down hill since this time last year. Magic Online seems to be the big dawg now.

MagicWorkstation is still quite popular and since Detonator released the latest version it's far easier to get connected to games.

Obv. it's never going to be able to compete with the technical sophistication of MODO but hey, it's free!

Zona

hey all, new to this forum so sry if i miss some kind of etiquette or grammer

i play alot of online magic, magic-league.com is a gr8 site for Apprentice, MWS and Netdraft. (a program that lets u draft for free) and also holds regular tournaments and masters, prizes from masters include store credit on some card site, i think its magicarsenal or something the like.

i play mtgo for the multiplayer games, 6person ffa's are awesome and worth the money, u dont have to pay subscription, just buy cards like in irl.

plus online cards are way cheaper than irl, granted they arnt real cards but u use them alot more and theres a lot more ppl to play (hundreds in fact)

Farcear

http://www.o-gaming.com

That place is good too.

Trine

So anybody playing MTGO? I only started about a week ago, about to start my 2nd deck, if anybody would like to play sometime PM me your username, could use some help and Irish opponents!