The big bow wow

Dustaz

Anyone see this last night?

I was trying to work out afterwards if i liked it (i think i did) and i came to the conclusion that it actually is more than the sum of its parts. Its parts arent that great mind you, the script is a little bizzare (what the hell is Pony? Why is a trendy gay business owner buying drugs on a dart from a schoolboy? ), Soul being the new Lounge when it comes to soundtrack, The acting isnt the best weve seen all year and that bloody de-saturated grade annoys me a little.

There were some great moments tho ("you english ****" "Ive told you NEVER to call me that...... I HATE being called English" ) and on the whole I didnt hate it and felt theres a lot of potential to it .

Ill be watching next week if only to see the magic of television once again turning Fireworks from a busy pub full of teenagers copping off to a laid back 'cosmopolitan' (and tbh, sort of boring looking) nightclub.

ixoy

I saw it. Acting was woeful and it's kinda like an Irish version of "Tinsel Town." Haven't a clue WHAT Pony is either...

My main amusement came from them living in the IFSC, so a lot of it is happening only about 100m away from where I'm currently living. I saw them filming at the gates to my appartments recently, so I'm thinking it might be the Big Bow Wow. I'll watch again, but mostly for the location spotting.

Oh and the Big Bow Wow - they were impressed with how "lively" it was? It was as lively as an OAPs disco where half the pensioners are comatose!

BuffyBot

Pony is slang for crack in some places.

Dustaz

where?

BuffyBot

US I beleive, but I'm sure it might be in other places too

s8n

cack. absolute cack

Raoul Duke

Saw about 5 minutes. The acting was worse than bad. There was no way I could possibly have watched any more of it.

BTW the bit I saw was where some guy was asking a fellow class mate to go orienteering with him. That guy was in something else but I can't remember what. Anybody able to help me? It was shockingly bad acting by him so I don't know why I'm interested in what else he's done.

mycroft

He was in, and in fact was, The Butcher Boy.

Ixoy they stopped filming in Sept, so it must have been a while ago....

Mr E

Ah I'll give it a few more weeks before I make up my mind.

Would I be right in saying that the cockney guy is the same guy in the "Carlsberg Don't Do Flatmates" ad? (I think he's the guy doing the flat hunting)

- Dave.

Kali

Originally posted by TmB
Would I be right in saying that the cockney guy is the same guy in the "Carlsberg Don't Do Flatmates" ad? (I think he's the guy doing the flat hunting).

you would be right.

Evil_Bilbo

Man - it was rubbish. going out of its way to be "shocking".

Kicked off with a titshot and some ridin. What was the point in that? Its just like every irish program that comes out these days (proof that means YOU)

Trying to be mad - throwing in sex and drugs and a few whores no doubt. All mixed in with spectacularly bad acting and a tonne of dudes from batchelors walk. Very dissapointing - thought it was going to be an hour long. Crap abrubt ending to a totally ****e first episode. I dont hold much hope for the rest of the series.

Mossy Monk

i saw a bit of it last night waiting for 24 to start and was unimpressed

Klaus

cmon, it poses fireworks as a cool place to hang out. fireworks ffs.

TCamen

Thought it was pretty damn bad to be honest. Acting was pretty poor, and the shaky camera annoyed me. I wouldn't usually go outta my way to watch a new Irish show 'cept that this one was on before '24' (which was also crap). Last time I sky plus Angel & Nip/Tuck to watch this tripe!

Think the Northern Irish girl used to play 'Mary' in EastEnders.

Tha Gopher

I thought it was fairly crap tbh. The English dude could probably be a funny character in the future though. Hes a little but wuuuh,hes a little bit waaayyy,hes a geezer inni?
And oddly,for the token gay they picked the least gay looking actor. Your man looks and sounds like someone out of Snatch or summink like it.
Some of the rest of the acting was brutal though,especially the short haired mouthy southside bitch who leases the flats. And does the name the Big Bow Wow refer to the birds on this programme? There isnt a whole pile sexy about this show-ffs only three of the ones in it last night were lookers IIRC(the arab one and two blonde half-extras)
If this really is a realtistic portrayal of young upper class Dubliners living in city centre penthouses Im feckin glad I wasnt born into this sector of society.

As for pony,I think it refers to normal powder cocaine. Cant imagine an entire group of upper class southsiders smoking crack in the shadow of the financial centre tbh.(and before somebody mentions it,yes,I know that some people like these do smoke crack/take heroin,but a whole group of them doing so is rather unlikely,while everyone in this show seems to like the pony)

But all in all this show seems to be fully of cliches. Token gays,token ethnics,token bitch,token big headed ladies man who will probably fall in love by seasons end after realising the error of his ways. Theres probably even a token"poor northside boy made himself good"in there somewhere. You may say you need a diverse cast,and maybe you do,but its cliched nonetheless that every group of friends on tv contains token types. It appears to be a less entertaining carbon copy of This Life.

And I agree with the club thingy. What a dismal looking hole. In the centre of Dublin,with the amounts of nightclubs about the place,who goes to the same one all the time and ignores the rest? Particularly if that same one is a half empty sh1thole with no atmosphere worth staying for.

lemondrop

Originally posted by TCamen
Thought it was pretty damn bad to be honest. Acting was pretty poor, and the shaky camera annoyed me.

Thank you someone else noticed the camera work....it wrecked my head. I didnt think it was to great, the acting was only ok, the happening club was about as happening as a morgue, i didnt think it explained any story line that mite be continued.....i doubt ill watch it again and if i do itll probably be out of sheer boredom!!!!

mike65

Did'nt se it, but after such write ups I'll have to watch the next episode!

Mike.

Buck Owens

Watched it, thought it was cap. I hate Irish TV Shows that try to make Dublin more trendy and cool than it is. It reflects modern Dublin my aunt fanny! Not a scanger in sight!!!!

LFCFan

bloody 'ell that was bad. So unoriginal. Acting was woeful, camera work was shoddy at best and even the attempt at humour was predictable and not funny. 'If I tell you I'll have to kill you'. What kind of 21st century script writer could possibly think that line is funny anymore. It's full of ex Soap and Ad actors. Just when I thought RTE were starting to improve they go and produce this crap. I'll watch it next week on the off chance that the first episode was a once off but I'd doubt it.

Dustaz

Apparently it does pick up and finishes strong. Ill watch the next few anyway.

I dont know what the fuss about the camerwork is about, i thought it was alright. Its not like ShakyCam is a new technique altho i suppose its getting a bit jaded at this stage.

LFCFan

I think my biggest gripe with it is the lack of originality and they've done a piss poor job or copying too. I hope it picks up as it would be nice to have good things to say about RTE for a change.

ijc

I just watched the repeat of the show this morning. I taped it when it was shown Saturday night on RTE1. I stuck around for the end credits and noticed something odd. It says the programme has been made "in association with S4C and TV3 television network Ireland".

Firstly, what is a Welsh language channel doing involved in this?

Secondly, why would RTE join forces with their bitter enemy?

Does this mean TV3 own the satellite rights to the show and we can expect to see the show turning up on Granada Plus?

IJC

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by ijc
Does this mean TV3 own the satellite rights to the show and we can expect to see the show turning up on Granada Plus?

the bit i saw was on satellite so RTÉ must have them too. maybe TV3 have the rights to repeat it

emertoff

Watched the first 20 mins and could take no more. Seems to me that RTE are just trying to be trendy, to do the television equivalent of copying what's cool in the playground, with disastrous results. All the characters are cardboard, I didn't give a sh*t about any of them, and without that, there is no basis for a second drama. I only tuned in because the TV Mag in Ireland on Sunday absolutely slated it. I couldn't believe it was going to be that bad, but so it was. Like looking at a traffic accident.

TCamen

Dunno if anyone read it, but the Review section of the Irish Independent on Saturday totally slated the show. John Boland, the TV critic, usually isn't someone I agree with, but he was right on the money. Ripped into it something rotten, hehe :cool:

ReefBreak

Yesterday's Tribune TV review yesterday started by saying how some shows were so bad that they're good, but that the Big Bow Wow was just simply bad. That being said, I'll still watch it tonight (despite it awfulness), as it apparently picks up a bit after episode 3.

dictatorcat

Did anyone not hate it? It really was the biggest pile of sheit i've ever seen anyway, and it built itself up so that loads of people saw it last week and will probably never watch it again unless something drastic happens.

loyatemu

I've only seen the poster (which is all over the DART)
and already I hate it.

It looks like an early-90s version of what a TV producer would think is "cool"
RTE really are the masters of getting things wrong.

Elmo

The use of the Word "DOG" was used in both the Trib and the Post on sunday to Describe this show.

And the times is waiting for it to live up to something.

But then the choice is yours Footballers Wives or this?

mmmmm

:rolleyes:

Will watch the next episode missed the first one.

A welsh version is to be made by S4C.


And TV3 plan to show the ITV version.

Dustaz

Originally posted by dictatorcat
Did anyone not hate it?

As i said before, i didnt hate it, i think it has potential. Ive heard a few people saying that the later episodes were stronger than the earlier ones so i think it will pick up.

Brerrabbit

I've only seen the poster (which is all over the DART) and already I hate it.
It looks like an early-90s version of what a TV producer would think is "cool"
RTE really are the masters of getting things wrong.

Heh heh heh, my thoughts exactly, Those ads on the DART wreck my head as well; they seem to follow you around the train (RTE paid for TONS of them so theyre all over the place!) and just when you think you've gotten away from their horrible staring eyes, there they are, squinting through the door of the next carriage, reading over your shoulder.


It seems to me, (As has been said before) that some airhead in RTE decided to make something "cool and hip" for the youngsters, realised what a big load of monkey sputum had been produced and decided to cover the gaffe with a splurge of advertising. :rolleyes:


I feel sullied from even thinking about this particular heap of poo.

Oh yeah and whoever mentioned the probability that it will more than likely have a "Northsider made good" will be proven right I think (If anyone watches this waste of good light).

The heads in RTE really seem to have their heads in the sand (When it comes to home- grown drama anyway - they seem to be pretty decent at choosing good shows from overseas to buy).

aodh_rua

Having now seen the second episode too - the programme really seems brutal. Uninteresting characters, dodgy acting, bad scripts, and a paint-by-numbers attitude to plot development. Absolutely dire.

Put this along with the turkey that was Proof and you really need to wonder who actullay commissions drama in RTE.

commuterised

Originally posted by TCamen


Think the Northern Irish girl used to play 'Mary' in EastEnders.

Yes that's her....

Elmo

Well saw the second episode.

1. It is not my type of show anyway
2. I don't think it's something to get worked up about


basically I would watch it again, but that is only because it's not my type of show.

Venom

Saw the last bit of episode 2 while waiting on 24 and its woefull. Crap acting by the 4 to 5 cast members on screen that I saw. They look bored out of there skulls which is something in common with the viewers I suppose. The whole "pony" lark is just sad, either have the balls to have a drug storyline or dont but using make up drugs in this day and age is rather poor drama.

Dont think i'll be watching this muck again.

Rolo Tomasi

I havent completely made up my mind but I will probably side on the "its not really worth the effort."
I want to like but they haven't given me anything, but that Nordy chick is growing on me. The helicopter shots of Dublin at night are pretty impressive.

Zoton

Why oh why wont they just take it off the air?

DMT

It's crap, but is it the first Irish drama to have a topless Irish woman in it?

Elmo

It's crap, but is it the first Irish drama to have a topless Irish woman in it?

Every scene she's in requires her to be topless.....

Raoul Duke

Every scene she's in requires her to be topless.....

So we're now saying that it is watchable, are we?

sanfran

on a positive note the acting is so woeful and the scriptwriting so atrocious that i find myself having a good laugh at the hilarity of it all!!! another poor attempt at been urban, edgy + sexy!! who the **** says "pony", (d4 heads i presume), and what second hand rdcord shop owner could afford to live in the docklands and wear the best in designer clothing????RTE answer: a gay record shop owner, wow! how controversial(sarcasm). all these pathetic attempts to be topical, racism, drugs-agggghhhh!!!! i noticed they threw in a flash of the oul flesh aswell for good measure.
yet i can't stop watching this utter ****e, i noticed last week they showed two episodes in a row(hence delaying 24!) so hopefully this means the end. almost as bad as the "Cassidys".....almost!

T.G Catter

the college scenes are filmed in dcu. just thought i'd mention it.

jabberwock

Yup, in the paper today , RTE are rushing to finish the filming of the show and are running double episodes to get rid of it.

thank god.

Elmo

RTE are rushing to finish the filming

filming finished in September.

Yeah Two episodes but still it ruins the schedule which is getting worse and worse. I have no prob with the show personally, not my kind of show anyway. But i have a major problem with RTE Network Two and its Schedule.:mad:

sceptre

Originally posted by sanfran
who the **** says "pony", (d4 heads i presume)

If they're talking about money, just East Londoners and small time hoodlums (and Del Trotter). If it's drugs, I've no idea. Food or kinky sexual practices, ditto.

TCamen

I have no prob with the show personally, not my kind of show anyway. But i have a major problem with RTE Network Two and its Schedule.

An extra 30min wait for a seriously lacklustre '24' isn't exactly a major problem in my opinion. In the grander sense, Net2 does have a lot less interesting stuff on their schedules, but I'm sure if TG4 hadn't bought up the US imports that they did, those shows would be on Net2.
I'm glad Net2 is showing the final season of Felicity, even if it is years later, but it wasn't on today :mad:

Back to Bow Wow-- is anyone actually watching AND enjoying it? John Boland, the TV Critic in the Independent keeps ripping into it. It's rather funny reading

Elmo

but I'm sure if TG4 hadn't bought up the US imports that they did, those shows would be on Net2

Yes and thank god TG4 did buy them other wise the would be on several years in the future, at different times every week etc etc.

N2 have plenty of programmes that they put on in prime time not at stupid hours of the morning.

I mean I like friends and all but once a week is enough.

is anyone actually watching AND enjoying it?

One columist in the Indo i think gave out about the bad press and said that what do 40 something TV critics know about modern Irish life anyway.

Ah sure there is always Footballers Wifes on TV3:D :rolleyes:

lemondrop

The Big Bow Wow is the biggest load of tripe!!!!!! I have watched a few episodes to try and give it the benefit of the doubt....but no its still dreadful!!!!! I mean does anything actually happen in the half hour???i mean a full on plot????No, all the do is go to the club (that is always half empty) and have a few other scenes relating to drugs etc but nothing actually happens with the plot......i dunno who wrote this but they certainly should ask themselves are they in the right career!!!!!! The camera work is terrible to!!

Cork

I think Network 2 should just show re-runs of friends,

The Big Bow Wow is a big Wow waste of licence money.

At Least TV3 gets programmes from ITV - RTE resorts to making this stuff,

simu

I only saw it once - in fairness, it was watchable and the cringy moments were funny plus i like seeing Irish ppl on TV - they're easier to relate to than Americans weven if they are pseudo-D4 types.

Better than Nip/tuck anyway - what a load of rubbish that is - you can guess the whole plot after 5 minutes.

DMT

Originally posted by simu
Better than Nip/tuck anyway - what a load of rubbish that is - you can guess the whole plot after 5 minutes.

At least Nip|Tuck has a plot....