Slipknot Banned??

feylya

Somebody PLEASE tell me that Slipknot have been banned from Ireland. Cos if they haven't, they'll be supporting Metallica. They're supporting them on their European tour. I'm just praying they've been banned from Ireland.

Gonzo

yeah Slipknot are banned from here, they were meant to play here 2 years ago but got cancelled due to some parents group or wotever banned them here and we got our money back on our tickets. I thought Slipknot themselves were more or less finished at this stage?

Creamy Goodness

they should be banned from everywhere!

eth0_

Originally posted by Gonzo
yeah Slipknot are banned from here, they were meant to play here 2 years ago but got cancelled due to some parents group or wotever banned them here and we got our money back on our tickets. I thought Slipknot themselves were more or less finished at this stage?

That is utter bull****. That gig was pulled because there's not enough 12 year olds with parent's who'll buy them tickets for a slipknot gig.
This isn't the 1960's, when was the last time you heard of a band being banned from playing Ireland? FFS. Marilyn Manson has played here and he's a bit wackier than the 'knot. And neither are all that offensive live. I've seen slipknot live once and they weren't offensive at all.

I heard they were breaking up the band after the next album or something?

honru

The last I heard, Slipknot are still around, just doing side projects and the like. They should have a new album out by this Dublin gig.

Man, Linkin Park, and now Slipknot. They will recieve such a hammering.

xx

Originally posted by feylya
Somebody PLEASE tell me that Slipknot have been banned from Ireland. Cos if they haven't, they'll be supporting Metallica. They're supporting them on their European tour. I'm just praying they've been banned from Ireland.

Ah, I remember it well. T'was the day of wednesday the 30th of august, 2000. I remember it well because I had 2 tickets for it (which I still have). The morning of the gig, one of my mates emailed me and told me to have a look on the news section of yahoo! because he had read something about slipknot there. I had a look and it said something like "the national parents council of ireland have banned the slipknot gig in dublin due to the band inciting hatred and violence amongst its fans". I couldn't fcuking believe it so I rang ticketmaster in HMV and asked them was the gig going ahead. They hadn't even heard anything about the parents council banning the gig (any surprise??) and assured me that the gig was going ahead. But what happened the night of the gig? Yep, you guessed it, it was cancelled. The day after that, there was loads in the papers about the parents council banning the gig with plenty of conveniently available 'concerned parents' saying "proper order it was banned" and "we're doing this to protect our children". Sickening, isn't it?
Anyway, they were banned back then, but that was that gig only. I ain't so sure that they're banned completely though. I was considering getting a ticket to metallica and now that you're saying slipknot is supporting them, I think I'll deffo get one. THAT would be a gig worth going to.
Just try to leave your predudices about slipknot at home will you, feylya? You sound as bad as that bloody parents council here. I've seen 'em in the UK before and they were very entertaining, and a very heavy band live (unlike metallica's previous choice of linkin park).
At the end of the day, it might be worthwhile contacting the parents council to see if the band are still banned....but that might actually give 'em early warning to the gig so scrap that. Don't bother contacting ticketmaster cuz as I've illustrated earlier, they haven't a clue. I know a guy who 'might' know though.
Anyway, if anyone has any updates on this, post 'em here. Cheers.

Repli

Originally posted by eth0_
That is utter bull****. That gig was pulled because there's not enough 12 year olds with parent's who'll buy them tickets for a slipknot gig.
This isn't the 1960's, when was the last time you heard of a band being banned from playing Ireland? FFS. Marilyn Manson has played here and he's a bit wackier than the 'knot.

Wrong there.. marilyn manson was cancelled (again by the parents groups) shortly after slipknot (2001 i think it was).. anyway i had tickets for both them gigs but ill defo be going to metallica now if thats true.. kinda lost interest in slipknot about a year ago but still love to see them live

xx

Originally posted by Repli
Wrong there.. marilyn manson was cancelled (again by the parents groups) shortly after slipknot (2001 i think it was).. anyway i had tickets for both them gigs but ill defo be going to metallica now if thats true.. kinda lost interest in slipknot about a year ago but still love to see them live

She is wrong, but I reckon what she meant was the time MM played at that $hite MTV awards thing in the point a year or two ago. To debate semantics, she said "Marilyn Manson has played here" but as he only played one song, I would say that that is a moot point.
Anyway, to get back on track again, I'm sorta the same as you in that I lost interest in slipknot too. However, that said, if I got the chance to see 'em again, I'd take it. The last time I seen 'em was class.

lodgepole

Originally posted by Repli
Wrong there.. marilyn manson was cancelled (again by the parents groups) shortly after slipknot (2001 i think it was).. anyway i had tickets for both them gigs but ill defo be going to metallica now if thats true.. kinda lost interest in slipknot about a year ago but still love to see them live

Marilyn Manson was coming here to film a live show to release on DVD. Which is why the tickets were so cheap. He couldn't come because he had a charge in the US that he was waiting to be convicted of. I don't recall if it was the US who wouldn't let him out, or Ireland who wouldn't let him in. But it had nothing to do with any parents group.

It's not possible for a band to be "banned" from a country, not a free democratic country anyway. It's down to the promoters. If an act gets in bad with them, there's **** all chance they'll get to play here.

MCD, for example, won't be inviting Nine Inch Nails back in a hurry.

eth0_

Lodgepole is 100% right. It's amazing how people will swallow what is fed to them in the tabloid press. Parents council protesting about an artist + artist having to cancel != parents council banning that artist.

If you don't believe me, ring MCD and ask them if MM or slipknot were banned.

I despised slipknot with a passion right until the day I saw them play at ozzfest in the uk a few years ago. I quite like them now although I haven't listened to em in a while. Wouldn't like to go to another of their gigs tho, unless it was over 18's.

As for NIN....i'll f*cking promote them :-)))))) I'd LOVE to see Reznor play!

feylya

Originally posted by xx
Just try to leave your predudices about slipknot at home will you, feylya? You sound as bad as that bloody parents council here.

Wtf are you on about? What prejudices do I have? I don't like Slipknot. I don't like their music. I'm going to see Metallica and to be prefectly honest, I'd prefer to see an Irish band, like Thin Az Lizzy or someone like that supporting them. It would be FAR more suited to the crowd than Slipknot.

j0e9o

i dont know if this is true okay and i read what u have all posted but i think there could be some truth in the knot being banned from ireland cause a while back they had to play in the odissy in belfast which is a same venue for the size of the bad was an okay show but h8 the way he lick the crowds ass "this was the best show ever kind if bs"

As for NIN wish that trent would do something of a tour once he finishes the new album and doom3 sound track

Pugsley

I think slipknots are, well, twats tbh, but some of the music is pretty decent, not superb, but I'd listen to it if it was on. A friend saw them in the odissy and apparently they were superb (however there was only about 3,000 people there, just over half the floor, and no seats).

cournioni

What I want to know is why don't Metallica get a decent support act? Linkin Park and now Slipknot, its just not on. Why don't they get someone decent like In Flames or Sentenced to play. Now that would be worth going to see.

Kye^

Originally posted by Cr3m0
they should be banned from everywhere!

/me Claps

Yea They shud b and so shud marylin manson

Stupid muppetry they bring to the music world. Too worried about their bloody appearance

angelofdeath

they're not banned from ireland, its just that the parents group put so much pressure on to stop them playing that the gig wasn't allowed to go ahead, remember tho this was when they were reletively new, they're more established now and i think if they come back someday the parents group wouldn't be able to stop em again

Kye^

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AH!!! please god no!!! Im goin to b goin to dat cause im 90% sure dats my chrissy pressy from the biatch

angelofdeath

when are metallica playing ireland again, such a gig that'd be metallica and slipknot in the one nite, brilliant

Ronan|Raven

June 25th angelofdeath.

Why don't they get someone decent like In Flames or Sentenced to play.

One can only dream about seeing In Flames play here Would be great to see them live over here but I think the main reason hey wont is slipknot et al will get more people in unfortunatly. Slipknot or In Flames hmmm I wonder which id choose!

eth0_

Originally posted by feylya
Wtf are you on about? What prejudices do I have? I don't like Slipknot. I don't like their music. I'm going to see Metallica and to be prefectly honest, I'd prefer to see an Irish band, like Thin Az Lizzy or someone like that supporting them. It would be FAR more suited to the crowd than Slipknot.

You're right actually, can't see metallica fans being slipknot fans and vice versa

eth0_

Originally posted by angelofdeath
they're not banned from ireland, its just that the parents group put so much pressure on to stop them playing that the gig wasn't allowed to go ahead,

Again, this is simply untrue. Do you honestly think the money machine MCD would cave to a group of moaney old bags who don't like little JOhnny listening to the bad evil music?
I bet they have no qualms about letting their kids listen to gangsta rap.

colincarnate

oh they should be banned alright, not because of their voilent whatevers but because they're fcuking boring, i've seen them live even their less boring singles are shyte!

xx

Originally posted by feylya
Wtf are you on about? What prejudices do I have? I don't like Slipknot. I don't like their music. I'm going to see Metallica and to be prefectly honest, I'd prefer to see an Irish band, like Thin Az Lizzy or someone like that supporting them. It would be FAR more suited to the crowd than Slipknot.

Saying the likes of "Somebody PLEASE tell me that Slipknot have been banned from Ireland. Cos if they haven't, they'll be supporting Metallica. They're supporting them on their European tour. I'm just praying they've been banned from Ireland". I can't understand comments like this. Its one thing to say that you don't like a band, but its another totally to just come on saying that you hope they're banned. Get a clue, will you. How many metal bands actually play over here? Sod all, thats how many. Ireland has been snubbed and overlooked constantly by many of the bigger (and less well known) metal bands in the world. Every year, only a handful of decent bands play over here when our nextdoor neighbours england get bucketloads of bands playing there. To say you hope a band is banned from here is childish and sad. We should be fcuking thankful of the one's who actually do bother to play here, not say that they should be banned.
Twat.

Repli

Originally posted by eth0_
Again, this is simply untrue. Do you honestly think the money machine MCD would cave to a group of moaney old bags who don't like little JOhnny listening to the bad evil music?

What are you talking about? There was pictures of protest was in the news and the papers.. why would the media make up a story about parents groups putting pressure on the group if they didn't sell enough tickets? It doesn't make sense.. Im sure theres archives of the story in somewhere newspaper like ireland.com

Wheeler

I was at Metallica in August and it was brill.
Would be delighted if slipknot were supporting them.it would be some gig

xx

If ye all check out http://www.livedaily.com/news/1741.html I think this gives the inside scoop. Basically, MCD cancelled the gig due to 'logistics problems', according to them. Well, its pretty obvious that this is a load of $hite anyway. But the NPC did put pressure on the Point Depot about the gig, so maybe it was the Point that said no to MCD? Anyway, the bottom line is that the NPC DID get involved in it and as far as I'm concerned, they put the kiss of death on it.

eth0_

Originally posted by Repli
What are you talking about? There was pictures of protest was in the news and the papers.. why would the media make up a story about parents groups putting pressure on the group if they didn't sell enough tickets? It doesn't make sense.. Im sure theres archives of the story in somewhere newspaper like ireland.com

I never denied there were protests. Read what I said again please.
They didn't sell enough tickets. MCD were happy for the parents council thing to be assumed to have been the reason the gig didn't go ahead.

Another example is the Coral last week being cancelled in Dublin and Belfast. A guy I work with's friend works for the promoter who brought them over, and after moving them to a smaller venue because of slow ticket sales, they had to cancel on the day because they hadn't even half filled the venue. Yet they said it was because the singer lost his voice.

Repli

Originally posted by eth0_
They didn't sell enough tickets. MCD were happy for the parents council thing to be assumed to have been the reason the gig didn't go ahead.

Your assuming that they didn't sell enough tickets.. show me one thing that backs up your point please otherwise your talking crap..

xx

Ditto. Why else would the parents council have gotten involved unless there was a lot of interest from a lot of kids in it? Slipknot were the newest thing on the market back then, of course there would have been lots of demand for the tickets. Add to that the fact that AMEN were supporting, who are an amazing band also.
As per my previous post, it was the parents council that put the jinx on it. Lets hope they stay at home doing their knitting or home-teaching when the metallica/slipknot gig comes around. If they tried to scupper the 'knot from playing here again, whats to say that it wouldn't affect metallica too and that they might not play either?

Ancient1

By what logic and on what grounds would ANY band get banned, ffs !!??

What is this sh1t, the return of Tipper Gore and the Moral Majority??

And, ho, ho, Deicide are playing in May. Go figure.

MiCr0

Originally posted by Lodgepole
MCD, for example, won't be inviting Nine Inch Nails back in a hurry.

how come?

Crucifix

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
What I want to know is why don't Metallica get a decent support act?

It's possible that they don't get to decide, and the promoters just do what they want.
Then again it's also very possible Lars wants to try and tap a new market or something.

Ste.phen

Maybe they dont want to risk having the support band outperform them?
</metallica bashing>

Töpher

Remembering now that Metallica released in album aimed towards kids and the general nu-metal market. Bringing along bands that will help pull their own crowd helps guarantee ticket sales. I for one would kill to see In Flames, but Linkin Park/SlipKnot help sell more tickets, from which Metallica get more money.
As much as I think Metallica have lost in in recent years, I find it hard to believe there's not commercial reasons behind citing Linkin Park as "One of the best rock bands in the world" as it said on Metallicas official site.

My main frustration over Slipknot being cancelled/banned was Amen, but they've played here twice since then, so I do be happy! But, Joey Jordison is a sweeeeeeeeet drummer, I'd go to see him!

eth0_

Originally posted by Einstürzende


My main frustration over Slipknot being cancelled/banned was Amen, but they've played here twice since then, so I do be happy! But, Joey Jordison is a sweeeeeeeeet drummer, I'd go to see him!

And I missed them both times Saw them once, they're mental live, they're way harder than slipknot :-DDD
They might be back next year, there's a new album out soon!

Stark

Linkin Park aren't that bad (although they played all the songs that sounded the same last year). Would prefer them to Slipknot.

nosmo

Originally posted by Repli
Wrong there.. marilyn manson was cancelled (again by the parents groups) shortly after slipknot (2001 i think it was).. anyway i had tickets for both them gigs but ill defo be going to metallica now if thats true.. kinda lost interest in slipknot about a year ago but still love to see them live

Wasn't Manson cancelled because he was arrested for getting over familiar with a security guard's head?

feylya

Originally posted by xx
Saying the likes of "Somebody PLEASE tell me that Slipknot have been banned from Ireland. Cos if they haven't, they'll be supporting Metallica. They're supporting them on their European tour. I'm just praying they've been banned from Ireland". I can't understand comments like this. Its one thing to say that you don't like a band, but its another totally to just come on saying that you hope they're banned.
Twat.

I was saying that I would prefer (and I know I'm not alone in this) if someone who was more on the level of Metallica would play. Someone more rock and less death metal or whatever genre Slipknot put themselves into. If you would prefer to see Slipknot, well good for you. I do not and I will express my displeasure at them playing in whatever way I feel would get the best results at that moment in time.

eth0_

Originally posted by nosmo
Wasn't Manson cancelled because he was arrested for getting over familiar with a security guard's head?

Nah that happened a good bit later

nosmo

Originally posted by Einstürzende
My main frustration over Slipknot being cancelled/banned was Amen, but they've played here twice since then, so I do be happy!

I've missed them both times they came too Really pissed me off, especially when I found they were selling a limited edition tour album the last time.

Glad to see there are some Amen fans on boards though

xx

Originally posted by feylya
I was saying that I would prefer (and I know I'm not alone in this) if someone who was more on the level of Metallica would play. Someone more rock and less death metal or whatever genre Slipknot put themselves into. If you would prefer to see Slipknot, well good for you. I do not and I will express my displeasure at them playing in whatever way I feel would get the best results at that moment in time.

No. You, Sir, are a goit for making comments like that. You're on a metal forum here and yet you're acting like one of those hip-hop homo's that wander in here occassionally saying that metal is crap etc.
By all means express what bands you WOULD approve of, but don't get in such a hissy fit just because the support band is not to your ikkle-little liking. As I said before, we get little enough metal bands over here as it is without twats like you dissing the one's that do come over but that don't come up to your everest-high standards.
However, taking into (limited) consideration your point that slipknot aren't suited to supporting metallica, I think you're definitely right here. I'd much rather see In Flames, Devin Townsend, Pantera/Down etc. Thin Lizzy......errrr.....I can see where you're going with this, but the mix of fans would, again, be a bit loopy. But I reckon that metallica only had a limited choice in who supported them, if any. But IF they DID have the choice, they wouldn't choose what metallica era 1990 would have chosen, if you know what I mean.

Karl Hungus

Keep it civil lads...

That is all.

feylya

Bottom line is I displayed my displeasure at Slipknot playing. I did the same with Linkin Park but I believe Slipknot would be "worse" than Linkin Park. I'm just thinking that the crowd will be split into 2 very distinct groups - those there to see Metallica and those there to see Slipknot. I would still prefer to see an Irish band like Thin Az Lizzy or even an English band play with them, much like The Darkness did last year. If you don't like that or if you disagree with that, that's up to you. I don't particularly care. I'm still going to go to the gig. Whether I'm there to see the support band or not hasn't been decided yet.

xx

6 months is a long time. Anything could happen as far as support bands are concerned. Keep your fingers and toes crossed feylya, maybe all nu-metal bands will be banned from here :rolleyes:

feylya

Originally posted by xx
6 months is a long time. Anything could happen as far as support bands are concerned. Keep your fingers and toes crossed feylya, maybe all nu-metal bands will be banned from here :rolleyes:

I like your thinking.

xx

No, I don't think you do, but then again, thats up to you. I've seen a few decent nu-metal bands in my time (Korn, Puddle of Mudd, Mudvayne, HedPe, Papa Roach, American Head Charge, Mushroomhead etc.) and enjoyed the gigs. It'd be a bit radical to tell them all to pi$$ off and never to darken our shores again. If I had a choice, I'd rather tell the likes of Gareth Gates and Will whatshisname to feck off instead. But then again, thats my opinion.

feylya

I meant the support act changing. You seem to be in a fighting mood. Yeah, there are some good nu-metal bands alright. Actually, I'd love to see Korn supporting Metallica.

Lemming

TO clear things up, Manson wasn't banned. He had to cancel the gig (I know this because I remember he was to play in Scotland a day or two later and was for the same reason cancelled) over having to face charges about the afore-mentioned security guard.

As for Slipknot being banned, I'm not sure. If they incite the crowds at their gigs I'd not be surprised if they've been placed under ban, just like the Fugees were for inciting the crowd and making inflamatory and racist comments last time they played here. Saying "I hate f*cking white people" to a predominantly white crowd is not exactly the mae-west of things to do ..... :rolleyes:

Point is, bands have been banned before and given Slipknot's *cough* "reputation" I'd not be surprised

lodgepole

Originally posted by MiCr0
how come?

Because of stage antics and general tomfoolery when they played her on the downward spiral tour. I have no other details, but know it to be true.

Töpher

Nosmo, the Amen CD that was sold on the last tour was sweet as shít! If my burner wasn't screwed by XP Pro I'd burn ya a copy, but, alas, it doesn't like to even read CD's anymore!

Manson not playing was for 2 reasons,

1) the lawsuit
2) the company backing the DVD recording pulled out.

xx

Originally posted by feylya
I meant the support act changing. You seem to be in a fighting mood. Yeah, there are some good nu-metal bands alright. Actually, I'd love to see Korn supporting Metallica.

Not a fighting mood, its just that seeing as we get little enough metal bands over here, to hear someone saying that a band (and a good one in my opinion) should be banned sucks.
Korn and Metallica....not bad, but I think Korn take themselves waaaay to seriously these days for a gig like that. PLUS, it'd be the same as with the linkin park thing - the fans would be all mini-moshers and poshers. Slipknot IMHO, get a better spread of fans. Actually, yanno what - you should check out the slipknot DVD from when they played in the London Arena, its called Disasterpieces. After NIN's live DVD, this one is my second fave.