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LOTR: The Return of the King

  • 16-12-2003 3:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭


    A little birdie has told me that the Ster Century reel is in good working order!

    Apparently it's fairly good.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Apparently, it's the best movie of the year and best of the trilogy.. Bit better than fairly good!

    AND I MISSED OUT ON SEEING IT TODAY :( :mad: :(


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Grrr, have to wait til friday to see it. Best console myself by getting the extended two towers tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    goin to see it tonight midnightish,
    lookin forward to it.

    will it be the best trilogy ever?
    possibly....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    I went to see a midnight screening of it last night and I loved it, I think its the best film of the trilogy and of the year. I think everyone should go see it.

    They didn't do a Matrix on it. :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    whoa, i had forgotten how 3 and a bit hours sitting on your ass felt....

    Good film tho,
    great ending, despite taking about a half an hour covering the characters "and they all lived happily after" bits.

    good though, i thought there was more fighting in the second one for some strange reason....
    and young christopher lee's role was missed, he played the villian well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭MrBigglesworth


    Watched the trilogy back to back in a local cinema last night. Well worth it. ROTK is a great end to a great trilogy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Yep, great trilogy!
    The ending did drag on a bit though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 anya


    UGC managed to mess it up royally this morning - the sound was dodgy and it was really obvious when reels were being changed. The sound went totally for a few seconds at the climax, and friends at another showing said the sound problems there were even worse.

    Still, in spite of that, a great film. It felt a little rushed at times, I'm looking forward to the extended version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    I thought it was the worst of the 3 films.
    Those pesky school girls in the cinema didn't help much, I can still here their sqweeky voices in my ears.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Grom


    they didnt do a matrix on it.yea but what you have to take into account is the film was allready predefined and they had a story line to work with were as teh matrix was rushed together for commercial use.

    going to see it friday with the gf looking forward to it just got to many xams in the time being


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Mountjoy Mugger


    Just saw it tonight. Deadly, although
    I do think they stretched their ending out a bit
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Was anyone else in the big **** off queue for Savoy Screen One today when the guy came out to inform us (after about an hour and a half of queueing) that it had been sold out? This was before they'd let anyone in... Pissed off was I. He even had the cheek to try make me go to the end of the other queue. No chance. So I had to put up with Screen 2.

    Stunning film, drawn out ending. Not much else to say. Except that the acting performances really went up a few notches, particularly Billy Boyd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Kevok


    I liked the ending, refreshing to see a film wind down like that and
    end the way it began.

    Performances were all excellent, the intertwining of all the threads was done well in my opinion, and the battle scenes again raised the bar. Definately the most satisfying film of the year.

    Now roll on the chronologically sound DVD's! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭krattapopov


    i thought it was one of the best films of the year, exactly what i expected which is what i wanted!!!

    i dont think that a matrix 3 could have happened as it is based on a fantastic book and on the manner in which the first two went


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Good movie, but did anyone else think it was rushed?! There was hardly any build up and a few scenes felt cheap because of obvious cutting/editing.

    Also the fighting seemed not as good as TTT (esp. the ride of the rohirrim), but maybe that's just first viewing syndrome talking... :(

    I must see it again to make sense of it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭angelofdeath


    great film, i didn't mind the ending, in fact i didn't want it to end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dangerman


    rotk turned out exactly as i expected it. I was prepared for the run on ending (i just knew it would happen) so it didn't bother me as some other ppl i saw it with.

    It had it's flaws, (some things seemed rushed, obviously some scenes missing) but it had a load of memorable moments.

    Looking forward to seeing it again.

    All in all, a great end to a great trilogy. Put me in a good mood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Originally posted by Elessar
    Good movie, but did anyone else think it was rushed?! There was hardly any build up and a few scenes felt cheap because of obvious cutting/editing.

    Also the fighting seemed not as good as TTT (esp. the ride of the rohirrim), but maybe that's just first viewing syndrome talking... :(

    I must see it again to make sense of it...


    no build up ? what are you talking about ? the first 2 hours were pretty much all build up , the battle with the riders of rohan was brilliant ! probly my favourite of the whole trilogy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    I'm talking about tension build-up. I wouldn't call the first 2 hours a tension build-up. We don't get a sense of everyone pulling together (namely Gondor's soldiers/citizens) like we did in TTT.

    And, after first impressions, Gandalf's charge with the Rohirrim at the end of TTT was much more iconic/beautiful/powerful than Theoden's charge at the pelennor...

    Ack, I have to see it again. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dangerman


    this is unbelievable ...

    http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/returnoftheking/

    look at all the critics gushing over it.

    i've read at least 5 reviews now that say 'best film trilogy ever made.'

    Steady on, it was fantastic but give it time to settle b4 making such ridiculously over the top statements.

    ah fuck it.

    BEST. FILM. EVER. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    loved the movie. was excellant. didn't mind the ending too much. overall the movie was the highlight of the year.
    can't wait for the extendend version. the Gandalf and Saruman fight should be good. Shelob was captured very well by Jackson.
    once again Gollum stands out in the movie. Serkis deserves the supporting actor oscar for his contribution to the movie.
    i will have to watch it again before i pick my favourite. out of the first two movies the first one is my favourite.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    It IS the best trilogy ever made. There's no other trilogy that maintains such constant quality. Every other one has a duff entry. I doubt we'll see its likes again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Very very good. I agree with Ixoy that there's usually one film in each trilogy you'll put up with but wish it had been different (*cough* ROTJ *cough*) but this was great. All great films. I'm looking forward to getting the Extended Version of this next year and watching them all back to back :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭aodh_rua


    ROTK is an incredible film. I went to see it in the Savoy and I've never experienced such a collective cinematic experience - people were cheering and applauding like it was a play.

    Definitely needs to be seen a few times tho - I'm sure I've missed things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    I saw it yesterday at 10:40 in Liffey Valley, and I thought it'd be packed. There was only about ten people there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    I really enjoyed the film, I did think that it veered from the book at the end.
    If I remember correctly doesn't Saruman attack the Shire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭sionnach


    your right james but they lef that bit out :/ i wish they had done it tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭sionnach


    oh and almost forgot .. MINAS TIRITH ROCKS, amazing model


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by sionnach
    oh and almost forgot .. MINAS TIRITH ROCKS, amazing model

    The shot of Gandalf riding up it was stunning... Made all those really impressive Helm's Deep shots look fairly tame.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by Exit
    I saw it yesterday at 10:40 in Liffey Valley, and I thought it'd be packed. There was only about ten people there!

    Ah but most of us have jobs and were working at that time.
    I miss L4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    Hey any director that manages to bring a dead character into two more films deserves respect. Go the Boromir!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Bannor


    I was not impressed. Maybe I was expecting too much when I heard it was 3+ hours long I thought this was going to have the same level of consistency that the special editions of the other movies had.

    The siege of Gondor did not have anything near the tension of Helm's Deep in the Two Towers, it just felt like they were going through the motions rather than fighting for their survival.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Actually Bannor what PJ was striving for was that on Helm's Deep it was meant to more in-your-face hand-to-hand fighting. At Minas Tirith though, you were going for the more epic clashing of swords - so it was more removed, and about huge forces crashing against each other AND - and this is important - the strategies. It was a different way of expressing battle in a movie... and both work equally well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Caked Karen


    its a classic!

    cant really say more than that

    perfect end to THE perfect trilogy.

    only flaw i have is that Sauraman didnt feature at the end like in the book.

    still not comlaining at all!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i walked out of the cinema half way

    terrible film


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 sweep_101


    Seen it yesturday i agree it veered from the book but it still the best of an great trilogy :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭jobonar


    how the f**k does anyone think that it was a terrible film!!!??
    it compliments the other 2 perfectly!!

    seriously great film and a absolutly awesome trilogy........how can it not be liked????

    Mordeth how can you say its a terrible film if you stand up and leave half way through!!!!

    INCREDIBLE FILM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Swifty


    Good movie, was a little dragged out though in the same way the other two were, but only a little. If Saruman was in the final book how come he didn't make an appearance? Are those scenes for the extended version only? Pity, I liked Christopher Lee in the first two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭BigEejit


    Heh, I nearly stood up and went out ...but I was fecking bursting :eek:, squirmed through the last 20 minutes ... Just saw it in the Reel in Ballincollig, must have been about 40 people in there ...great not to be annoyed by kids screeching and mobiles going off ..:D
    The movie itself was very well done, but I think PJ could have done a better job in a couple of small things but overall I was very impressesd, Shelob was very well rendered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Loved it


    But

    -i agree the battle was not as powerfull as helms deep, i just felt that the undead army made it all too easy and even though there is meant to be more soldiers in this battle i really didnt notice it there was too much space...

    -Did anyone else not like the army of the dead? i loathed them, made me think of critters.

    -the whole frodo gollum sam story arc was amazing in every detail.

    -The Witch King and The Goblin leader two of the best bad guys in the film. Pity we never found out what happened to the goblin leader, i didnt see him get killed in the attack.


    Overall it is an amazing piece of work. But when the previous 2 raised the bar each time i didnt feel this one did as much, it did a bit but not as much as the previous.

    Not a dud but not the best.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by BlitzKrieg

    -Did anyone else not like the army of the dead? i loathed them, made me think of critters.

    I personally detested them...
    Especially the way the just 'Whooshed' through the lines of orcs without a glimpse of any action whatsoever.

    Gimmie a shambling horse of rotten-fleshed ghouls over those guys any day!
    And some real in-there action! Undead Vs. Orcs!

    Honestly, I didn't envision those ghostbusters style spooks when I read the book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Peaadina


    Just saw ROTK in UGC, the film was excellent but due to a stupid cock up with our seats I missed the 1st 40 minutes :mad:im absolutely gutted about that So just so everyone knows: UGC SMELLS!
    but the film rocked!!:D gonna go again on sat! to a different cinema of course... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭CodeMonkey


    I think too many fans are praising the movie cause it's consistent with the others and it looks good and had good special effects etc. Not that I didn't think it was good, it was, it just wasn't great. Here's a couple of things I didn't like.

    - The passage of time wasn't shown well, they jumped from one great battle into the next without rest when days should've past. Frodo and sam got to the top of mount doom pretty quickly as well. That's not the problem when the pace of the movie is consistent. You also got lots of unneccessary slow bits like the token female Arwen bits for instance and the drag on ending...

    - The Witch King, that thing he was riding on etc. Big build up by Gandalf but died too easily, very disappointed.

    - Those thousands of orcs fleeing at the end, why? A flaw in the story really, not with the film but so what the boss is dead, there are humans to kill! ;)

    - There are problem more if I think about it but I'd just be nit-picking too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    i dont know if you read the books code monkey, but they dont flee just because the boss is dead, its more the fact that without the embodiment of evil behind them they are struck with fear, they loose their strongest power etc.... i suppose it wasnt explained well in the film, i just took it for granted cos id read it.

    I agree about the dead army, i imagined them totally differently when reading. the green hue made them look stupid, they should have been black or something, and more solid rather than just spirits that floated about the place.

    the gollum transformation was superb, a great start to the film.

    i dont think the ending dragged much, i didnt like the way it summed up their return with about 3 scences... eg the way sam is in the bywater inn and he goes up to rosie then theyre getting married.
    I wonder if the saruman/shire plot will be on the dvd, along with the aowen/faramir love story (however this would not be all that missed)

    i was abit annoyed at the fact that the screen went blank for a minute (during a sam/frodo/gollum scene) but the sound stayed, it was probably some idiot worker standing in the way or f*ucking up with something.

    Flogen

    edit> have to agree with simaris on the endings, for the last half hour every scene felt like the last, for a split second i thought they were going to end it on the rock at mount doom (not sure if the fade to black was supposed to last that long, may have been a reel change). i thought they wernt going to send frodo away for a minute too, as for the actuall ending, that line by sam was probably put in for the hardcore fans, as it is the last line in the book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    Originally posted by Peaadina
    UGC SMELLS!

    Saw it in screen 14 and got the feeling that many of the speakers were not working most of the time.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Saw it in UGC - Screen 17 myself and the sound was bloody amazing :)

    - I wasn't a major fan of the swarming army-of-the-dead (and I now look at Steven Erikson's "House of Chains" with a bit less joy as a result) - too glo-in-the-dark methinks. Maybe more scenes of their fighting for the Extended DVD?

    - To the best of my recollection there was never a Saruman-fcuks-the-Shire ending filmed. It won't be appearing on any DVDs anytime soon. If you're pushed you can imagine it happened and play with timelines - after all the movie skipped moments.

    - I'm presuming all the missing time sequences (e.g.
    Ah we've just arrived in Mordor - whoa! We're already at Mt. Doom! That were quick Mr. Frodo and no mistake
    ) will be fleshed out in the DVD. There was a LOT to tell.

    - People complain about the slow-ending and false-endings. Firstly, I had read enough reviews to be prepared for it ('cept the last one - that got me!). But more pointedly, it's a failure of the book if you want to criticise. There's a lot of stuff to wrap up from the novel, and credit to PJ for sticking to his guns, and not dropping it merely to fit the typical Hollywood formula structure!

    Now I demand a 5 hour extended edition :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Terminator


    Thoroughly enjoyed the movie, the cgi was amazing and the cave trolls in armour were cool.

    But like a lot of people I found the army of the dead a bit of a let down. The cgi was dreadful and watching a jerky cloud of green swarming over the orcs was laughable. Did Weta farm that bit out to ILM ??? :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    having read tolkiens works on many occassions I think that at the end of the day

    FOTR 8/10
    TTT 7/10
    ROTK 9/10

    hard to please everybody, in fact impossible, you have to take your pre-conceptions to one side and accept the fact that PJ has to do his best with what time he has

    Excellent film in all respects

    I can't comprehnd peoples hang up on time shift, it's not supposed to be real time
    If you want a better feel for the time taken, read the book
    This was not the book, it was a film, impossible to protray eveything in the book

    I just loved the trolls
    IMO the best film I have ever seen


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I saw it last night and the only thing I can say is wow. It was the greatest film of all time. The past three years of my life had been leading up to last night. I can die happy now. I'm going again on Sunday and in January i'll see it in the Imax.
    People hav been saying that The Lord of the Rings is the Star Wars of our generation. Its so much more. In comparision to The Lord of the Rings, star Wars is ****e.


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