GPRS, DIAL UP or MMS settings for Nokia 6600

cyberspider

Hi there wondering if anyone could help. Just picked myself up a Nokia 6600, must say it great and feature rich. However I am having problems setting it up to access either Dial up Wap, GPRS or MMS.

I have read through the settings Here and these are roughly the same settings as I have.

E-Merge GPRS WAP
Connection Name: GPRS WAP
Data Bearer: GPRS
Access Point: wap.vodafone.ie
Username: dublin
Prompt Password: No
Password: dublin
Authentication: Normal
Homepage: wap.vodafone.ie

OPTIONS -> ADVANCED SETTINGS

Phone IP Address: Automatic
Primary name server: 213.233.128.19
Secondary name server: 213.233.128.1
Proxy serv. Address: 10.24.59.100
Proxy port number: 9201




E-MERGE
Connection Name: E-merge
Data Bearer: Data call
Dial-up number: +353872292222
Username: dublin
Prompt Password: No
Password: dublin
Authentication: Normal
Homepage: wap.e-merge.ie

OPTIONS -> ADVANCED SETTINGS

Phone IP Address: Automatic
Primary name server: 213.233.128.19
Secondary name server: 213.233.128.1
Proxy serv. Address: 10.24.59.100
Proxy port number: 80

Have been talking to vodafone and finally got on to someone in the tech department. Once again they said phone was not supported yet, They havent even gotten a model to start testing on yet. So they dont know what settings are needed.

Have talked to Nokia tech support. They said this has been a big problem i th UK as the networks need to tweak their settings server side to allow the 6600 to connectand only networks that have approved teh model have done this yet.


Have looked at the article on o2 settings for 6600 and was wondering if anyone has a suggestion on how to:

!: Connect to some WAP gateway- prefaribly Vodafone IRL. Problem might be that Vodafone WAP gateway does not support WAP 2.0 (But though 7250i was 2.0)

2: connect to GPRS access point. If can connect via dial up to wap then any accessponit to use Opera browser.

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also forgot to say.

I am on a contract


The error messages

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Connecting via GPRS
The phone connectes. G symbol stops flashing, G revolves around globe symbol as if it is waiting/downloading data. From looking at the data logs I see teh phone is passing data to server however no data is being returned.

In the end ERROR:
Service Timed Out


Connecting Via Dial Up
Phone trys to connect via E-Merge and just get System Error

manchine

I think you hit the nail on the head, the 6600 is a WAP 2.0 device.

Right now I don't know that any of the networks support this.

When you hit 'connect' (or whatever) and you get the G with the spinning the globe, you've probably got an active PDP context i.e. the APN is valid and you have an IP address on the handset but as your settings are pointing to port 9201 I don't think it'll work which mght explain the 'service timed out' error.
WAP 2.0 should use TCP/IP all the way from the handset and not the WAP stack. The problem might be that your phone it trying to make a TCP connection to a UDP port. If vodafone have a WAP 2.0 gateway it may well be using some other port number - I think the 6600 assumes this is 8080 by default?
If/when it is supported by the network it *may* require a new APN, proxy IP address etc....

MiCr0

wireless http as we call it should be on port 8080

as to whether they have a gateway that supports it is another issue?

any one know who provided the wap gateway for vodafone ireland?

jesus_thats_gre

Surely the handset is backwardly compatible with earler WAP releases.

Try setting the Phone IP Address to Dynamic and leave the Primary and Secondary DNS address as 0.0.0.0


Settings name – WAP GPRS
Homepage – http://wap.e-merge.ie/
Session mode – Permanent
Connection Security – Off
Data bearer – GPRS
Bearer Settings
GPRS access point – wap.vodafone.ie
IP address – 10.24.59.100
Authentication type – Normal
Login type – Automatic
Username – dublin
Password – dublin


Try configuring it for CSD if that does not work to see if you can connect that way.


Settings name – WAP Home
Homepage – http://wap.e-merge.ie/
Session mode – Permanent
Connection Security – Off
Data bearer – GSM data
Bearer Settings
Dialup number - +353872292222
IP address – 10.24.59.100
Authentication type – Normal
Data call type – ISDN
Data call speed – 9600
Login type – Automatic
Username – dublin
Password – dublin

MiCr0

permenent is 9201
temp is 9200
secure perm is 9203
secure temp is 9202

manchine

Originally posted by JesusThatsGreat
Surely the handset is backwardly compatible with earler WAP releases.

Don't think so

AFAIK Nokia has given the two fingers to WAP 1.x on newer handsets, so the operators can't sell them (or at least approve them) untill they have a WAP 2.0 gateway 'cos they just won't work!

BigMoose

VFI dont currently have a WAP 2.0 gateway, but it is in the pipeline. Sometime early next year from what I remember.

Tazzle

On a side note, where'd you get it and how much was it.

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by manchine

Originally posted by JesusThatsGreat

Don't think so

AFAIK Nokia has given the two fingers to WAP 1.x on newer handsets, so the operators can't sell them (or at least approve them) untill they have a WAP 2.0 gateway 'cos they just won't work!

Ahh stress.. Haha

jesus_thats_gre

I checked this out. Manchine was spot on, Nokia WAP 2.0 enabled devices wont be able to access WAP services based on the WAP 1.x gateway.

MiCr0

do they still have the POS openwave gateway?

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by MiCr0
do they still have the POS openwave gateway?

If thats directed at me, I dont have a clue

flywheel

Originally posted by cyberspider
2: connect to GPRS access point. If can connect via dial up to wap then any accessponit to use Opera browser.

With Opera - or your POP/IMAP email accounts try to connect try either of the connections below (Note: the services need to be switched on for your account if not already done so - caling Voda Data Support should get them enabled 1850 287 000)...

For GPRS on full Internet - not WAP, your account would need to be enabled for the Vodafone ISP 'full internet' access point first, then try this:

Connection Name: Voda ISP GPRS
Data Bearer: GPRS
Access Point: isp.vodafone.ie
Username: vodafone
Prompt Password: No
Password: vodafone
Authentication: Normal

OPTIONS -> ADVANCED SETTINGS

Phone IP Address: Automatic
Primary name server: leave (blank or 0.0.0.0) (... still having issues try 213.233.128.19)
Secondary name server: leave (blank or 0.0.0.0) (... still having issues try 213.233.128.1)
Proxy serv. Address: leave (blank or 0.0.0.0)
Proxy port number: leave (blank)


For HSCSD 'high speed' dial-up, your account would need to be enabled for the Vodafone "High Speed Data" access point first, then try this:

Connection Name: Voda HSCSD
Data Bearer: High Speed GSM
Dial-Up Number: +353876202222
Username: vodafone
Prompt Password: No
Password: vodafone
Authentication: Normal
Data Call Type: ISDN v.110
Max. data speed: 38400

OPTIONS -> ADVANCED SETTINGS

Phone IP Address: Automatic
Primary name server: leave (blank or 0.0.0.0) (still having issues try 213.233.128.19)
Secondary name server: leave (blank or 0.0.0.0) (still having issues try 213.233.128.1)
Proxy serv. Address: leave (blank or 0.0.0.0)
Proxy port number: leave (blank)
...
Use Callback: No
PPP Compression: No
Use Login Script: No
Modem Init: leave blank

see how you get on with that...
BrianG

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by DubWireless
Alternatively for Live! your account would need to be enabled for the Vodafone Live! access point first, (calling customer support should get that sorted 1907), usually find they switch off the regular wap access point (wap.vodafone.ie) when 'migrating' a user to Live! access point (live.vodafone.com) though, then try this:

I don't think will work. While the handset is certainly capable of diplaying the content, the handset is not an "official" Live handset, thus when you attempt to access Live, it will detect what handset you have and refuse you access. Thats why you have to set up for WAP, which does not seem possible either

flywheel

Originally posted by JesusThatsGreat
I don't think will work. While the handset is certainly capable of diplaying the content, the handset is not an "official" Live handset, thus when you attempt to access Live, it will detect what handset you have and refuse you access. Thats why you have to set up for WAP, which does not seem possible either

only reason for giving them (both) was if he had already asked / or asks for Live! to be enabled and someone in Voda switches it on (migrates) then the wap.vodafone.ie AP may be disabled for their account - that's what happened to me when i was 'flipped' so just giving the options i can think of while supporting 'blind'...

i thought the handset sniffing was very strict too - until trying it with the MS Smartphone and Live! popped into view (and that sure ain't supported!)



BrianG

jesus_thats_gre

Haha cool, will have a play around with some devices to see what happens with them...

BigMoose

DubWireless do you have any idea how you managed that?! I have a 6100 which is not supported by Live! and I can't get it to work. I know i have 5 APNs provisioned (wap, isp, office, MMS and live) but all I get is the "you have tried to access Vodafone Live!" crappy message and then the redirection to the normal wap content.

cyberspider

Thanks all

Mr.Taz
I bought it from expansys. They price there has dropped about 6 times in two weeks as they get more stock in. I Paid around £340 for it: Nokia 6600 on expansys

There are some bugs in the software at the moment from what I can see. I have noticed it freeze when I hung up a call and also it has turned off once or twice. Also when sending text messagges the To: field is set to alpha numerica instead of text. All a bit like the early releases of the 7110. But the firmware on it is dates 16-10-03 and as far as I know they already have an updated version

One other gripe is the PC suit. It really is a load of pants. essentailly it only allows you backup and transfer images. Not even as good as the PC suite they have for the series 40 phones eg 6610, 7250 etc.


Thanks a million Brian

Have been able to connect using the isp.vodafone settings with no dns set

This allows me access WAP site through the WAp browser and also web site through the oPera browser.

The Opera Browser is very impressive. The user interface is ver intuitive but it could end up costing you a fortune to use since the pages are around 50kb as opposed to the c. 2kb for the WAP pages. The page sizes could be exponentially more if you turn "Show Images" On

jesus_thats_gre

To reduce the cost, you could try one of their GPRS add on packages.. Will give you a free allowance and reduced rates.

cyberspider

Asked them about this they have a gprs 3 add on that is €12 a month for 3mb then it is .3 cent a kb after this. Standard charge is 2cent a kb for first 512 then .5 thereafter

sunbeam

You can use your inclusive monthly minutes for HSCSD calls. They would probably work out cheaper than GPRS if you plan to do a lot of web browsing.

MiCr0

OT but can some one explain the vodafone live charging for me?

jesus_thats_gre

Thats a classic question..

Simple really. You are charged a minimum connection of 10 cents or somethig..

You are then charged 15 cents per dynamic content page. So the normal menus that do not update are free.

flywheel

Originally posted by BigMoose
DubWireless do you have any idea how you managed that?!

hi, it is up to Voda what they let into the Live! "portal" - your handset / browser is identified (sniffed) and directed to the version of the portal most appropriate to the handsets capabilities / browser... Voda control what is directed where, for some reason they had left it open to the MS Smartphone... so nothing to do with me I'm afraid!

the contents didn't display very well on the handset (worng sizes / layouts etc.) - so either the sniffer had a mistake (and the MS Smartphone got through) or they opened it up for some reason to test something it out...

BrianG

flywheel

Originally posted by cyberspider
Asked them about this they have a gprs 3 add on that is €12 a month for 3mb then it is .3 cent a kb after this. Standard charge is 2cent a kb for first 512 then .5 thereafter

currently pretty sorry state of affairs on Vodfone alright with a whole "one" inclusive data option to choose for use with a handset! - make sure to know when you next billing cycle is as the inclusive data package will only kick in then, up until that your on pay-as-you use

it's pretty expensive, although it used to be only 1 MB inclusive for the same price until around March/April when they got "generous" and added an extra 2MB to the package and decreased the per KB over charge - they also have this silly min connection 'fee' of 10k per connection so while it was more of a factor when there was only 1MB inclusive, it is still something to bear in mind if you perform tasks like polling for mail with out keeping an active connection

as sunbeam said, HSCSD can offer an alternative is some cases with the 087 - 087 data call as part of any inclusive minutes - but it depends what type of a/c you have, best suited for Active due to it's 300 inclusive minutes and then only during off-peak, however it can eat into the other a/c's minutes pretty quickly over a month especially if you are already eating them through regular talk time

bear in mind both services are more suitable for different tasks, due to their 'pay by data volume' v.s. 'pay by second' online billing - also bear in mind HSCSD will be harder on the battery

unfortunately their ISP can't be your Friend-for-'kinda'-Free, although i think someone posted a while back they were lucky enough to get it when the offer was first introduced!

happy mobile surfing - just bear in mind the cost

BrianG

flywheel

Originally posted by MiCr0
OT but can some one explain the vodafone live charging for me?

i kept getting stuck for answers with Cust Support when asking what point 'dynamic' content would mean a charge per page

i just stay away from Live! on a supported handset and source WAP content from the likes of entertainment.ie, enn.ie, ananova.com, bbc.co.uk, yahoo.com etc.

if you are somone who want's to keep track on their GPRS usage (and with Voda's prices if you use it more than a little then that's you ) it can really mess you up, as your data log is negated with all this per page pricing

wouldn't matter so much if you could track GPRS usage / costing online - but it's still not possible on Voda - they just tell you how long yor GPRS session was (like that's helpful to know :rolleyes:) - O2 have a much better implementation showing you your actual GPRS usage during the month

BrianG

brodie

I have got the GPRS working using the settings at www.filesaveas.co.uk however I can not get the MMS settings to work so I can send pictures.

Does anyone know how ??? Vodafone UK

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by brodie
I have got the GPRS working using the settings at www.filesaveas.co.uk however I can not get the MMS settings to work so I can send pictures.

Does anyone know how ??? Vodafone UK

Have you got the phone connecting to to Vodafone Ireland's WAP services or Vodafone UK's WAP service?

brodie

I am from the UK connecting to the UK..

but I have finaly cracked it , MMS and GPRS working.

I work for www.UKPhoneShop.com and when I rang Vodafone to ask for the setting they replied with "Even if you were HARRY POTTER you wouldn't get the phone to work with MMS" Well what more can I say. I DID.

I have recently rang them and they are now testing the settings.

I have a nice warm feeling inside because I beat the Vodofone system. :cool:

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by brodie
I am from the UK connecting to the UK..

but I have finaly cracked it , MMS and GPRS working.

I work for www.UKPhoneShop.com and when I rang Vodafone to ask for the setting they replied with "Even if you were HARRY POTTER you wouldn't get the phone to work with MMS" Well what more can I say. I DID.

I have recently rang them and they are now testing the settings.

I have a nice warm feeling inside because I beat the Vodofone system. :cool:

Interesting, I gotta check that out.

You wouldn't post up the settings you are using out of curiousity? Also, are handsets purchased on a new connection in the UK network locked?

brodie

Here are the settings I am using for the Nokia 6600 in the UK.

If you copy the below into a txt file and call it somthing like settings.cfg you can then export them streight to your phone using the PC Suite software provided with the 6600 phone. Post a request if you need this translating so you can do it manualy.

[SYS]
VER=3
NOM=0
NOA=1
NOS=3
[AP0]
CN=VodafoneMMS GPRS
BT=1
WSP=http://mms.vodafone.co.uk/servlets/mms
WTLS=0
CT=0
DAP=1
PSN=212.183.137.012
PN=8799
APN=wap.vodafone.co.uk
UN=wap
PA=0
WGIP=212.183.137.12
PIP=0.0.0.0
PDNS=0.0.0.0
SDNS=0.0.0.0
PP=1
[SMS0]
SCN=SIM msg. centre
SCNO=+447973100973
DSC=0
[SMS1]
SCN=SIM msg. centre(01)
SCNO=+447802000332
DSC=0
[SMS2]
SCN=VODAFONE
SCNO=+447785016005
DSC=1
[MMS]
PC=VodafoneMMS GPRS
MMR=1
WE=1
RA=0
DR=0
DSDR=0
VP=2
IS=1
DS=1
AMR=1

Hope This Helps
Chris Brodie
www.UKPhoneShop.com

nxbyveromdwjpg

probably dreaming, but dont suppose anyone has a similar story but with o2 ?!

Celticwarrior

I was told by meteor today (via email) that their network is indeed compatable with the nokia 6600 and that it will be possible to send and recieve mms on their network and that they support ANY GPRS phone.

Murdoch

Yes that's true, Meteor do indeed support the nokia 6600. I called in to a Meteor store today and i got my mms and gprs up and running. I'm pretty dam happy.

flywheel

hi , someone on the FS Mobiles made a post saying a Voda CSR said that the standard WAP/MMS settings should now work with the 6600

as they didn't before can someone on Vodafone (with a 6600 ) check to see if anything has changed now as it's been a while since anyone has posted that they tried...

thanks,
BrianG

Rew

I have a 6600 on O2 no joy with the GPRS or MMS yet but im told they have a test WAP2 gateway so hopefully i will be able to sort somthing.

Slightly off topic i have a Sony Ericson P900 here as well wouldn't recomend it to anyone... not impressed at all. The 6600 is much nicer then i thought it would be it looks bigger then it is in most pictures. Loads of featuers. Only issue so far is its very slow to do any thing...

flywheel

Originally posted by Rew
Slightly off topic i have a Sony Ericson P900 here as well wouldn't recomend it to anyone... not impressed at all. The 6600 is much nicer then i thought it would be it looks bigger then it is in most pictures. Loads of featuers. Only issue so far is its very slow to do any thing...

thanks for the O2 update,

i'd recommend a P900 to anyone who's requirements were a close match to the features it provided - it would be closer to the likes of an XDA (II) device - a Series 60 handset offers a different kind of 'experience' for someone over a UIQ based device discusses a bit in this thread

BrianG

Rew

Have an XDAII as well but wound't compare it to a P900

The quality of the speaker phone fuction is terrible espically in comparison to the XDA II

I ran V-Rally on the P900 and that was pretty impresive but pointless as it was impossible to controll.

flywheel

well they both have their strengths and weaknesses - i find the P900's phone elements and Bluetooth better - the design is also easier for one handed use with it's size fitting the hand better and the Jog-Dial making it easy to get around, the battery also lasts longer for me then the XDA II

sure the XDA II can also have advantages being a true PDA centric device, SD/MMC memory expansion, option of an expansion pack for CF/Video Out/extended battery), SDIO WiFi capability

never had a big problem with the speaker phone feature on either device though - but I'd be more inclined to use a Bluetooth headset with them rather than in speaker phone mode

i know people who wouldn't give the Pocket PC Phone Ed. any time and prefer UIQ devices, and vice-versa, i find myself being a bit more objective as neither is perfect...

BrianG

korkie

Ok, so! Has any1 actually managed 2 seup the nokia 6600 on Vodafone live for pay as you go?
Have been trawling through all the different settings listed, but none work. :mad: