THE way EVERYONE leaves AND then COMES back

FutureQuakeDood

why does everyone leave the wwwboards and the quake community and then return to say 'thanks for saying goodbye and all your kind words and eh... goodbye again' and then they're back then the next week or the next day or the next month. and everyone thinks they've gotten rid of them. but there they are. "just here on my mates 166" "just dropping in from office" "just thought i'd set-up my old laptop" "hello, i'm back"

please **** off


please **** off

DeV

I presume this is aimed at me (and/or bubbles).

Let me just clarify something. I'm not going away. In fact if anything you are going to see me more often.

I'm not stopping organising (that would be like saying I'm going to stop breathing) I'm just not going to organise stuff for the general public.

There WAS a community there once but the problem with an open community is that if you open the doors without a bouncer you quickly attract an unwelcome element. I allowed that element free ride because I was sorting stuff for my mates, now, I'm just going to organise private events/boards/lans/teams etc.

It occured to me that while Dan and I were spending time and energy moderating the boards the majority of users now didnt want moderation and viewed us as "nazis" "fascists" and other unpleasantness. This isnt a petulant response, but our efforts were for the community only, god knows we dont need the extra work.

I wont be back because I'm not going away.
Dan and I would reconsider moderating the boards again if a critical mass of readers/posters asked us to, because then we would know we had a mandate.

However I'm putting things in motion that may supersede that anyway. More anon. Or maybe not .

DeV.

amp

Well you've got my vote, I'd also suggest somesort of FAQ and/or charter like the newsgroups have so the general rules could be established. That way if a moderator got called a facist or whatever we could all just shout "Read the FAQ at http://www.somewebsite.com/faq"

Oh and FutureQuakeDood - why not relax and have a cup of tea?

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Predator

Thats rite dev
ure our new dictator
all hail the mighty dan and dev

YAY

amp

Not a bad idea Predator, we could have a dictatorship, personally though I'd prefer a monarchy, (it's got more kewl ass rituals).

The one problem though is that in most dictatorships your not actually allowed leave the place were it is (Cuba, North Korea etc.) so we'd all have to stay in here all the time and not be able to check our Hotmail or goat pr0n.

Oh and Dev doesn't actually have a beard anymore and everybody knows that you have to have a nice beard/moustache to be a dictator (Castro, Stalin etc.)

Freedom of speech would be right out as muppets would rounded up into Muppet Concentration camps and exterminated.

Please e-mail me if you want to discuss this or the kewl films starring Arnold Shwartzeneggar! shoebat@yahoo.com

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El_Presidente

"Muppet concentartion camps" eh amp?

We'll all miss you.



El

amp

Ahh thanks man, certain sacrafices have to be made you know!

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WhiteWashMan

but amp, youre not a muppet.
youre just a gimp

amp

Look wwman I am NOT, I repeat NOT going to wear that leather gear for you again. I know it turns you on but it really chafes!

Just make do with your Donkey pr0n!

Sheesh!

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FutureQuakeDood

It was not aimed at you DeV, as much as you'd want it to be. It was aimed at JaneyMackers. Lets start this thread again.

Zero

There are two types of muppet, one is the genuine newbie just looking for a helping hand, and then there are the stupid twats that just discovered the boards while looking for porn and decide to fill it with rubbish. You are one of those. Shutup.

Dev, on the subject of ure adminning.
Don't bother with the boards, its too much work because of the many reasons have been laid out before. But don't toss the team away. Team.ie and its followers/transport etc are more than some stupid skill-base concoction, they are a group of mates and you're the man to run the team, firstly coz ure the best at it, and secondly because the ppl that matter want you to run it.
Don't bother with the stress-inducing moderating of the boards/server/irc. Let the apes run the zoo if they want.

Zero.

mewso

I'm fu(king up to here with that kind of Elitist bull****. Give me the muppets any day as opposed to the ego driven ars3wipes.

M

earthworm_jim

Yeah! I really can't stand it when people do this big "I quit" thing and then carry on playing even more than ever

Fancy a quick game of quake bubbles?

El_Presidente

Yeah dev, keep the team.ie thing going.

Let the rest go to hell.


El

JaneyMackers

LOL. I never came back to say thanks for the kind words etc. For all intenceive purposes i was moving to London, had a night out with my mates saying goodbye etc etc. When i got back i never even said anything on the boards about it. You wanna get at me to annoy me go for it you'll be waiting a long time. i'am not going to explain why i had to return home again after only a couple of weeks it's none of yours or anyone else's business.

JM

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Draco

FutureQuakeDood does have a point, even though it doesn't really apply to DeV. There have been so many 'Goodbye Quake' posts on this board and its previous incarnation that it has really gotten ridiculous. Most people that said they were going came back within a few months.

No matter what you do there are always going to be <unts who try and mess it up for everyone else. It like stupidity - its universal. No matter who it is that moderates these (or any other boards) somebody is going to be offended by what they see as restrictions on there freedom.

And Zero - fu<k off. Your elitist "we've been here since the dawn of time" sh!te was tired the first time you spouted it. If you don't like the boards then please kindly go home and play with yourself rather than saying we're all a bunch of muppets.

Draco

Zero

*yawn*

I didn't post that to make a sad boast about how long I or any of the lads were playing. I was talking about all the power-tripping going on here, on the servers and on irc, by ppl who think an admin password or a year's playing makes them so l33t and gives them the power to do a comic-shop-owner on everyone else. That's what pi$$ed off Bunny, and Bunny NEVER gets pi$$ed off.
Some new guy goes onto the CA server and because he's a bit slow to set teams he gets booted or if not then probably abused. Someone asks a completely LEGITIMATE question on the boards and straight away they get laughed at and slagged.
You didn't see Bunny or Slaanesh or any of them prancing around with their admin passwords when you started playing Quake, demanding the way things were run, yet it goes on now, aren't ye so fu<kin l33t. well in our eyes someone like you is still a newbie, so get off of your high horse.

And Musician, who ARE you?? What a stupid alias to come on with, use your real nick.

Zero.

WhiteWashMan

oi aero,
musician has been around before i ever started playing and that was a year ago.
not that it really matters.

dev said he was finished organising stuff for the general public, not giving up quake.
on the subject i think he should continue with team.ie, as lets face it, its not the general public, its the irish team.

JM did indeed post a bye for now post, but as he said ts his business and only his and hes right, he didnt post 'im back with a vengence' post.
hes allowd to come home and play if he likes.

on the other hand, ppl have been saying goodbye for various reasons and then come back
some ppl have said they are quiting because of lack of access to net etc. cicumstances change and if they can play again then good luck to then.

if someone decideds to come back then its their own wish. no-one held a gun to their head and said they had to play.

could everyone just get of the 'lets moan about everything while the theme is in he air' bandwagon.

ffs, get on with your life, play your game (be it 7 shades of brown quake, slow rocket no axe q2, nice and shiney q3a or killing spree UT) and try to happy.
if your not happy with someone elses posts, then ignore them.

im as sick of the boards at the moment with all the crap on them. but i play games. not as much as i used to due to real life and far too much work, but i put in the time and effort and i care too much about too many ppl here that have become good friends to just toss it away.
i'll stick around and just post my usual smart-ass, beer drinking (yeah, thats for you zero ) rubbish. but im hapy to do that and i really dont care what other ppl say.

if you canr handle the crap, stay outta the stable.

oh, and im still officially 7 th in ireland at instagib

and dev, i will have the cash for me and castor for the beard asap. just bear with me, i havent forgotten!

TwoShedsJackson

Cash?? Beard?? wha??!?! all hail Starcraft!!!! got me firstest every victory last night, unfortunately i was absolutely elephant's trunk and so have no idea what exactly happened.

Draco

Zero...you reall do have you're head stuck up your a$$. You say you're not harping on about how long you've been around, yet you keep on going on about the 'good old days'

Someone asks a completely LEGITIMATE question on the boards and straight away they get laughed at and slagged.

Like that *never* happen in the old days...COME ON! The Irish quake community has always been a clique. Newbies are still treated the same as they always have been - half of the regulars will help then, the other half will slag them.

someone like you is still a newbie, so get off of your high horse

And the great and mighty Zero has spoken! You are a hypocrite - you complain that newbies are given no respect and you turn around with that? Bah. I'm quite happy up here and I'm sure as hell not backing off.

Draco

Zero

my god how simple do i have to make it Draco?
i was pointing out the irony of so-called
l33t quakers hassling muppets when there are
soooo many other ppl who still look at THEM as
muppets. You're frying my brain, somebody
help me pleeeeeease........

Koopa

i was new to the INTORRNET when i met Zero and the UL lads, and they never had any "elitist attitude"

Toulouse

I agree with Sam...I met Zero when he was number one in Ireland...and he didn't take the **** 'cos I was newbie and I ended up learing most of the little I know from him. He'd sit there and play and tell why he was doing what he was doing and why I should use it in my game. He was simply telling DeV to forget about moderating all this **** and to concentrate on the main thing...the team that represents us all! And believe me...after seeing DeV in action at Rapture...he truely is the best man for the job...that's my opinion. An older member posts his opinion and the next thing you are all calling him l33tist....I saw nothing to indicate that in his post....stop the ****ing whinging!

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Sonic

ya i agree with carroll and peewee will u get a life man , chill

Jaden

PeeWee, you remind me of someone I used to know. They're dead now, but that's no real suprise. The fact that you're still alive would seem to indicate that you're not this offensive in real life. This kind of duality is usually representative manifestation of some kind of physiological trauma encountered in the earlier years of childhood. If it's attention you seek, then attention you have. So lets hear it PeeWee, what's your story?

Hail To The King, Baby.

Jaden.

MindPhuck

Here, PeeWee, Im down in UL next week, wanna meet up for a friendly chat? Maybe we can discuss the merrits of muppetry over a quite drink.

Q

Isn't Censorship great...

WhiteWashMan

cool ,
not only did you edit the message but you even erased his posts
can you give me this power as well?

funnily enough, i'll also be down in limerick soon.
not that i would want a quiet chat with peewee

Canaboid

Anyone that can come up with a picture of peewee wins a shiny penny.
I'm dyin' to see what this gimp looks like.

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WhiteWashMan

why?
are you his b1tch?

i thought nicky had more taste.....

SheroN

BLah who cares.....everyone shut up...blah blah blah
peewee this peewee that....hes grate...ye take the bait every time....

Bunny

My point exactly