1MB NTL Broadband [Merged]

MickFarr

I was at the Toys 4 Big Boys show and was asking the NTL guys about when the broadband service, when would it be available in Laraghcon in Lucan and got chatting about the pros and cons of NTL broadband V Eircom broadband and he told me that at the start of the new year they will be bringing out a 1MB line and charging 54 euros a month for it !!!

Thats what Eircom charge for their 512KB line. Has anyone else heard anything about this??? Sounds to good!

ando

never believe what an NTL sales person tells you :rolleyes:

SkepticOne

Did he answer the question about whether your area would be upgraded?

vibe666

NTL sales have only a tenuous grip on reality at the best of times, but very occasionally have been right.

don't hold your breath though, because if they had planned on something like that I would have thought they would have concentrated on getting their hardware upgraded first so they have some customers to roll the new product out to.

at the moment, there's about 4 people in tallagh (poor attempt at humour, but not far from the truth) with NTL broadband, so they need to make it available in more areas before they start offering faster services, it wouldn't make any business sense to offer better products to such a small market when they have such a large potential market share they need to build up first.

GerardKeating

Originally posted by vibe666
at the moment, there's about 4 people in tallagh (poor attempt at humour, but not far from the truth) with NTL broadband,

wow, that means i know 75% of NTL broadband users..

LoneGunM@n

I don't think i know you Gerard, so that makes me the other 25%:D

I agree that NTL should try to widen their customer base ... but first things first ... I think they should sort out their sales and tech support [although Tech support is getting better] :rolleyes:

carrotcake

new 1meg service + further roll-out of broadband = congestion

MickFarr

I already have NTL broadband and most of my friends in lucan have NTL broadband as well. I was asking him on behalf of a friend who has just moved into this estate (its still being built!) and wants to get the broadband service. He said it would be the start of the new year.

He happens to live in Lucan and is head of the Lucan broadband roll out. As he knew I already had broadband I don't think he was trying to resell to me.

Yes the NTL support is sh*t sh*t sh*t!!!! But I haven't had any problems since it was installed, bar the installation.

If anyone can name a better provider please post a reply....

vibe666

out of curiosity i just called ntl and the sales girl told me basically what i had already said.

'i haven't heard anything about a 1mbit service as of yet, and I don't see it happening for quite a while. at least until all (or at least most) areas are upgraded to two way (i.e. for use with cable modems)'. oh, and i also got the 'your area will be upgraded sometime in the next 12 months' speech.

and one final point. just noticed from the ntl.ie website that they have imposed a 1gb per day cap. [joke]must be all those people in lucan and tallagh downloading warez and movies all day.;) [/joke]

Lenny

It will be borught out,
heard from it myself,
Some people already 'testing' the 1mb new line apparantly

MickFarr

I know what your saying vibe666, you can't believe what they tell you but I just wanted to know if anyone had heard about this 1MB service. I suppose I'll just have to wait!!! :rolleyes:

uteotw

Well I remember the CableLink website in December 1998 telling that broadband was coming soon.... since then I kept on calling them every six months to get an update and they always says "in the 3 to 6 months".

CableLink was useless and NTL is not better.

So what ever they say now you won't see it for another couple years at least.

lodgepole

Originally posted by vibe666
and one final point. just noticed from the ntl.ie website that they have imposed a 1gb per day cap. [joke]must be all those people in lucan and tallagh downloading warez and movies all day.;) [/joke]

They didn't contact me about that... Though I haven't been doing much downloading recently.

I'm perfectly happy with my 128 line. Wouldn't be arsed paying more to a 1 Mb.

ZENER

Quote:
. . . will be bringing out a 1MB line and charging 54 euros a month for it !!!


Is that 1 megabyte (MB) or 1 megabit (Mb) ???

carrotcake

bit. using a 1mbyte connection with ntl's cap could allow to download at full speed for a whopping 17 minutes per day!

ando

imagine having a 1MBps connection... sweeet

just imagine how much por...... *cough*.... I mean educational sites we could goto!!

carrotcake

Originally posted by Lenny
It will be borught out,
heard from it myself,
Some people already 'testing' the 1mb new line apparantly

it appears that the testing phase is over!

MickFarr

Anyone heard any more news ?:rolleyes:

Mercury_Tilt

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OfflerCrocGod

This must be a joke! they have only around two areas of Dublin upgraded to two-way and they are now going to offer 1Mb!?!?!, great their numbers will double to 8 ppl with NTL BB - it makes me want to cry:( , 1Mb and my area will be upgraded in 2009:mad:.

shinzon

as a matter of interest will waterford ever get NTL broadband or am i just asking to much lol


Shin

babyhack

i dont know why u all think thats its only tallaght with NTL BB

i am in crumlin and i have had BB with them for the last 6 months
most of the areas around me are set up for it too
and as for the surrport i have never had any trouble with them

they gave me an extra TV connection in the house and there 600k line for half price for 12 months

in total i paided for the setup and now all i pay is 20euro a month
as for the 1GB a day limit that 30GB a month what you get with eircom something like 4GB a month

service has been down once in 6 months and that was when most of europe was down cause of some prob (it was all over the news) so cant blame them for that

anyway i think its great for us that have it cause the less people in one area with it the better the speeds

Faltermyer

I think the point is that in comparisson to Eircom's service, NTLs reach is minimal. But it certainly covers more than Tallaght.

In fact, afaik, Blanchardstown/west Dublin was the first area to be set up?

Im in Knocklyon and have had it since 22/08/02 (that said, it took me about 4months to get connected from the day the sales guy called to my door). Bar all the hasle in actually getting connected, its been a great service to date, and great value too at €40/month for the 600kb/s.

The list seems to be growing though-
Blanchardstown
Tallaght
Firhouse
Knocklyon
Crumlin
Lucan

Anywhere esle?

lotas

Enn Say there are currently 4500 cable modems in ireland.

OfflerCrocGod

Blanch is not supported I just called and asked:(

ssh

We've used an NTL leased line in two of our premises. Given that they seem to actively despise their big-money customers, I can't imagine how they treat residential ones.

Really, their support is woeful, as is there attitude towards technical proficiency.

mag

Where are you guys getting the idea that Balanchardstown is supported ?

Faltermyer

When I called them about 6months prior to getting connected I was told that only West Dublin, i.e. Blanchardstown, was covered... Guess I was told wrong?

mag

By west dublin they mean lexlip, lucan, cellbridge....

Civilian_Target

All I can say, is I have 1 M-bit NTL and it's brilliant. Moves at pretty close to a megabit most of the time, although it can get a bit slow between 7pm and 9pm, but a bit slow means no less than 600kbits. Ping to UK is great, usually less than 20, not so hot to Ireland though. And no cap!

I am living in Belfast though.

useeme

i have the 600k service in Templeogue.

Cannot fault the service.

Its also available in Walkinstown

OfflerCrocGod

Originally posted by Civilian_Target
I am living in Belfast though.

That's a diffrent country so it's not as if it applies to us down in bogger-country with our Myopic-Tiger :rolleyes:.

carrotcake

i wonder if ntl will still introduce 1meg at €54, given that eircom now plan on dropping the price of their €54 package. maybe a charge of €50, keeping in line with the uk?

either way, €40 for eircom vs €40 for ntl (600k) is sure to cause them some problems. is it even worth their while rolling out broadband across dublin now???

Ripwave

Originally posted by carrotcake
i wonder if ntl will still introduce 1meg at €54, given that eircom now plan on dropping the price of their €54 package. maybe a charge of €50, keeping in line with the uk?

either way, €40 for eircom vs €40 for ntl (600k) is sure to cause them some problems. is it even worth their while rolling out broadband across dublin now???

It won't make any difference to NTL. They knew that they couldn't expect oreillycom to keep the price at €54.45 forever, so I doubt it would make much difference to them.

Why would someone choose oreillycom rather than NTL if they're the same price?

carrotcake

good question! if people were more willing to look into their broadband options then there would surely be less i-stream customers than there are today

MickFarr

Eircom €40 vs NTL €40
4GB vs 30GB
512kbps vs 600kbps
48:1 vs 20:1 contention (thanks Civilian_Target)

which would you pick ?

carrotcake

like i said

if people were more willing to look into their broadband options then there would surely be less i-stream customers than there are today

Civilian_Target

Originally posted by MickFarr
Eircom €40 vs NTL €40
4GB vs 30GB
512kbps vs 600kbps

which would you pick ?

Oh an lets not forget

48:1 contention vs 20:1 max contention
50-60 ping vs 20 ping

MickFarr

Thanks Civilian_Target I forgot about the contention

Podger

..........Eircom..........................NTL.......................... IBB
............€40............................€40..........................€35
........... 4 GB..........................30GB.........................n/a
........512/128 kbs...............600/126 kbs..............512/512 kbs
...........48:1..........................20:1..........................20:1

.......need phone...........need basic TV...................n/a
........€22 /month.............€18 / month
......+€130 Install...........+€100 Install...............€149 Install

....upto 1mb/256ks...................n/a................upto 1m/1m
...........4:1...................................................4:1

Apart from the minging antenna, IBB comes in first, especially if you don't want a phone line or cable TV. Also, with the new 3.5Ghz technology the range will increase the requirement for LOS will go, so the antenna can just be on your back wall rather than perched on a 2m pole.

Ripwave

Originally posted by Podger
Also, with the new 3.5Ghz technology the range will increase the requirement for LOS will go, so the antenna can just be on your back wall rather than perched on a 2m pole.

I don't think 3.5GHz will do away with the need for LOS. IBB have an LOS product, and a non-LOS product. There is no fixed antenna for the non-LOS product.

I think if you're getting HomeBreeze, even in the 3.5GHz spectrum, then you'll need Line of Sight to the transmitter.

Podger

As the 3.5Ghz range is only being licensed to broadband profiders, they won't be limited in the power they can use, unlike the 2.4Ghz that can be used by all and sundry. This will allow them to pump up the power without effecting other users.
I take your point that if there is hugh white building in the way there will be issues but in this range and with higher power the signal isn't as susseptible to diffraction from objects like tree, powerlines or adjacent roofs. Also, you shouldn't have interference issues.

lynchie

Originally posted by Podger
As the 3.5Ghz range is only being licensed to broadband profiders, they won't be limited in the power they can use, unlike the 2.4Ghz that can be used by all and sundry. This will allow them to pump up the power without effecting other users.
I take your point that if there is hugh white building in the way there will be issues but in this range and with higher power the signal isn't as susseptible to diffraction from objects like tree, powerlines or adjacent roofs. Also, you shouldn't have interference issues.

who says they arent doing it at the moment. Since a certain ISP became active in Clondalkin, an existing 1-2km link that was working fine on 2.4ghz can no longer connect to its AP due to the noise from their tower. They seem happy to pump out more power than is allowed.

daramullally

Just noticed that NTL have launched a 1024 kbps/256 kbps service for €50 incl VAT.

http://www.ntl.com/locales/ie/en/athome/internet_cable.html

Guy:Incognito

they actually always had it, just didnt offer it. there was a link doing the rounds a while back that let u enter ur username and pass to upgrade 2 a 1mb line. it was supposed to be for the uk but it worked here 2 and they didnt charge anything .

PhoenixRising

Thats a great price for a 1Mb line. If only the service was available to more than 10 people in Dublin.:(

Guy:Incognito

aah the joys of being in the ntl broadband area

crawler

The service is launched :-

See post here :- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=140127

crawler

Mods - may be an idea to merge both posts on this?

Hyzepher

I currently have the 600 option so I rang them about an upgrade - they will be able to upgrade from Wednesday on to the 1Mb option - all for €10 extra.

Hyzepher

nahdoic

Damn that's good. I wish NTL would hurry up and get their ass out to Dublin 15. They're missing out on a fortune.