Poll: Best Fighting Game\Series

jesus_thats_gre · 12-09-2003 2:43pm #1

With the coming launch of Soul Calibur 2, I thought it would be interesting to know peoples opinions as to what is the best fight game or seres of games on any console.

There is a mix of classic 2D affairs and some never 3D based titles. Forgive me if I missed any!

jesus_thats_gre · 12-09-2003 2:49pm

Mine is:

Soul Calibur

Street Figther

Virtua Fighter

Dead or Alive

Tekken

King of the Fighters

KdjaCL · 12-09-2003 2:52pm

Sf2 CE is the best simply because you can beat anyone with anyone no other game allows that kind of level playing field.
The series was ruined with the Alpha crap it had its good points with combos but Ken and Ryu are near unstoppable and thats not good.

I find Tekken DOA and Virtua to be the same where there are good fighters and bad and the bad ones are completley ineffective vs the good ones. They all have a Paul.

Mortal Kombat games were good ,new one is very good but takes time to get into it.

Killer Instinct wasnt bad either cept Gold version on N64 which was cack.

Kof would be 2nd but stupid fighters that have moves no other fighter can counter was its only flaw although a big big flaw.

Most fighters these days dont have much depth and if they do theres always a Paul or somfin who is unstoppable and has moves that cant be countered and usually repeating them them over and over wins you the fight and then game.

//me likes fighters a lot

kdjac

Repli · 12-09-2003 2:53pm

In this order

1. Killer Instinct
2. Virtua fighter 2 (arcade)
3. King of Fighters 98
4. Samurai Showdown 2

5. Capcom vs SNK

Pugsley · 12-09-2003 3:55pm

Hmmm, hard choice between Soul Caliber and SF.

I went Soul Caliber because it had my favourite fighter ever in it (Lizardman), me and a friend had some superb fights with me as Lizardman vs him as Cervantes'.

Street Fighter is a close second, it was simple to play but hard to master, very fun game to play with a mate or two.

Virtua Fighter deserves a mention, one of the first fighting games to have a really huge moves collection for each charecter, hard to get into but great fun once you get into it.

Tekken in forth, it wasnt a touch on Virtua Fighter, but still a great game, and ultimately it had King in it, a very, VERY fun charecter once you learned all his throw combo's (i could do every throw comboo he had in Tekken Tag).

DOA is fifth, while it was fun to look at, and had very physical women in it *cough* the game itself had little depth or origionality on it, it was sold on the women and bought by the men. The games themselves were, IMO, very poo.

Never really played King of Fighters, so I can really put it into my list anywhere

honru · 12-09-2003 4:05pm

Favourite Fighting games, in no particular order;
Capcom vs. SNK
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves
The King of Fighters '98
The King of Fighters: Evolution
The Last Blade 2: Heart of the Samurai
Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes
Project Justice: Rival Schools 2
Samurai Shodown II
Street Fighter II Turbo
Street Fighter Alpha III
Soul Calibur
Soul Calibur II
SNK vs. Capcom: Match of the Millenium (best handheld fighter ever)
Tech Romancer

Good untraditional fighting games are Power Stone 2 and Super Smash Bros. Melee.

RockViper · 12-09-2003 4:38pm

My vote goes for the Street fighter series.

Its a pity the KOF series never really took off over here or that SNK never had the guts to release any of their titles on PAL format, they really are a great series of games, with the possible exception of '99-'01, the whole striker concept was a bit lame IMO. Ah well I always have my Dreamcast boot disc....

Street fighter Alpha is easily the best game of the SF series next to the legendary Street Fighter 2 Turbo. Excellent animations in the backgrounds and characters and also that solid gameplay from previous versions is retained. And World Tour mode! Definatly the best additional mode in any SF game so far. The many long hours I spent getting Guile in World Tour mode were some of the best I've ever spent on a console.

Soul Calibur and Tekken are great craic but don't rival the old 2D's in terms of longevity and sheer frenzied turbo combo madness.

jesus_thats_gre · 12-09-2003 4:50pm

I really think Soul Calibur is the best overall. SF2 was genius and it really is a tight finish, but Soul Calibur on the DC was deadly.

Mossy Monk · 12-09-2003 4:50pm

Street Fighter for me. i have loved it since playing the 1st one on the C64

Dont be at yourself · 12-09-2003 4:55pm

Where's Battle Arena Toshindon? And the WWF games? And Ballz? And Clayfighters? And Mortal Kombat? And Robot Wars?

honru · 12-09-2003 4:59pm

And Rise of the Robots??

jesus_thats_gre · 12-09-2003 5:12pm

I accidently omitted Mortal Kombat!! woops

Where's Battle Arena Toshindon? And the WWF games? And Ballz? And Clayfighters? And Mortal Kombat? And Robot Wars?

sorry but all balls. Jaysus the first Toshindon was remotely ok, but the reset were balls

And Rise of the Robots??

balls too, sorry.

LoGiE · 12-09-2003 5:27pm

1. Killer Instinct
2. Marvel Vs Capcom
3.Street Fighter 2 CE
4.Virtual Fighter 2
5.Mortal Kombat 2

All arcade games mind:)

Hopefully there will come a time when KI becomes playable with Kaillera:D

honru · 12-09-2003 5:29pm

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Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
balls too, sorry.

Feel free to bash Rise of the Robots, for I agree.

KdjaCL · 12-09-2003 5:29pm

Originally posted by LoGiE

Hopefully there will come a time when KI becomes playable with Kaillera:D

I dread that day

kdjac

Kold · 13-09-2003 12:01pm

SUPER SMASH BROS

LoneGunM@n · 13-09-2003 12:21pm

I'd have to go for Street Fighter 2 Turbo Edition [on the Mega Drive

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Also loved Street Fighter vs The X Men .... I used to love playing that game on my break from work!! At the start, used to pay a fortune in the 3/4 hour I had .... then after a bit of practice, 50p to complete the game!!

Retr0gamer · 13-09-2003 2:51pm

SF2:CE is the best fighting game ever and will probably never be beaten. It just so well balanced. Every character is as good as the rest and it will take years to master.

Samurai Shodown should be in your poll. Another great series of games but just not as good as SF2.

The virtua fighter series is the realistic fighting game.
Soul caliber series is great for people who don't like serious fighters.

Don't like the Tekken series at all. There maybe loads of characters but only 5 are anyway decent and some characters have ridiculous combos that will kill instantly kill the other character.

Tusky · 13-09-2003 2:51pm

super smash bros for me...

TheSonOfBattles · 13-09-2003 3:00pm

Has to be Soul Calibur for me. Only fighting i've ever really enjoyed to be honest. And I keep coming back to it as well. Though, the original had the better weapons system, it just wasn't as good, graphically or in terms of fights.

The characters are nicely balanced as well. With Sophitia prolly being the most unbalanced of the lot, and even she's possible to beat with every character.

Though it did take me 17 fights in a row to beat Megasheep (who was using Sophitia) using Xianghu (however you spell her name) ww)

jesus_thats_gre · 13-09-2003 3:11pm

Originally posted by TheSonOfBattles
Has to be Soul Calibur for me. Only fighting i've ever really enjoyed to be honest. And I keep coming back to it as well. Though, the original had the better weapons system, it just wasn't as good, graphically or in terms of fights.

The characters are nicely balanced as well. With Sophitia prolly being the most unbalanced of the lot, and even she's possible to beat with every character.

Though it did take me 17 fights in a row to beat Megasheep (who was using Sophitia) using Xianghu (however you spell her name) ww)

Cervantes is the dogs bollox in my opinion.

Syth · 13-09-2003 3:38pm

Where's Super Smash Bros. Melee?! How can you not have that there?

jesus_thats_gre · 13-09-2003 3:42pm

Where's Super Smash Bros. Melee?! How can you not have that there?

Woops, there is another one I missed. Not so much a big deal me thinks.

TheSonOfBattles · 13-09-2003 3:46pm

Cervantes is pretty cool alright, but i've always like Mitsurugi, Ivy and Kilik.

For pure laugh value, no other fighter ever beats Voldo. I've never laughed so hard at a game as when I first saw him. Even Monkey Island hasn't elicited this much side splitting pain.

jesus_thats_gre · 13-09-2003 4:02pm

Originally posted by TheSonOfBattles
Cervantes is pretty cool alright, but i've always like Mitsurugi, Ivy and Kilik.

For pure laugh value, no other fighter ever beats Voldo. I've never laughed so hard at a game as when I first saw him. Even Monkey Island hasn't elicited this much side splitting pain.

Voldo is just a bit to kinky for my liking.... I really wish I could get hold of a Dreamcast for a reasonable price with this game, I really wanna play it! Role on the sequal for the Xbox.

SantaHoe · 13-09-2003 5:40pm

Me hoists the Tekken flag.
Loved Street Fighter and all, but it's too predictable most of the time... stay away and throw hadookens then dragon punch if they jump at you, or just keep jumping in with kicks followed by sweeps and another fireball timed for when they get up.
It's still my favorite fast-paced beat-em-up, but I find Tekken a little more tactical given the third dimension of movement, reversals, more moves etc.
Thought mortal kombat was pants - only worth playing for the poxy-hard-to-do finishing moves.
Maybe if they speeded up Tekken a bit and added some blood/dismemberment effects it'd have more fans.

KdjaCL · 13-09-2003 5:45pm

Originally posted by SantaHoe
Me hoists the Tekken flag.
Loved Street Fighter and all, but it's too predictable most of the time... stay away and throw hadookens then dragon punch if they jump at you, or just keep jumping in with kicks followed by sweeps and another fireball timed for when they get up.

Any other fighter can counter that Wuss attack no matter how good the player with ken or Ryu is ,they can be beaten by anyone everyone has a counter for the fireball and dragon punch.

Could list them but that be too nerdy and zealot loike

kdjac

SantaHoe · 13-09-2003 5:57pm

Well IMO it all too often comes down to switching between one style or the other... just look at the CPU controlled Sagat... just stands there the whole time using fireballs then picks you out of the air with tiger uppercut if you even think about jumping at him.
You just end up having to engage in the always annoying 'I-can-do-fireballs-faster-than-you' match.
Some characters seem to be designed to play like that - ie. that is their strength.
I think Dhalsim vs Dhalsim matches are the only way forward

DiscoStu · 13-09-2003 5:58pm

tekken 3 for me simply because back in "the day" i was bloody unstoppable.

KdjaCL · 13-09-2003 6:13pm

Originally posted by SantaHoe

I think Dhalsim vs Dhalsim matches are the only way forward

You never know joy until you beat a good player using Ken with Dhalsim

Im sad like that

Kdjac

Creature · 13-09-2003 7:33pm

Blanka was the perfect counter against ol' Dhalsim. All those sneaky Dhalsim users would shuffle away with quite the shocked look on their face after being beaten by their own abuse of the stretchy punch attack. Muhahahahaha

Retr0gamer · 14-09-2003 2:44pm

just look at the CPU controlled Sagat... just stands there the whole time using fireballs then picks you out of the air with tiger uppercut if you even think about jumping at him.

If you had the skill you could just jump and duck between them until u were a pixel out of his range and force the player to make a silly counterable mistake. However I did play it again recently and most of my skills have gone down hill quite a bit. I'm no longer the monster SF2 player I was

SantaHoe · 15-09-2003 12:19pm

Well I didn't say it was hard to get around - it was just an example of the predicability of SF2.

Pugsley · 15-09-2003 3:21pm

Thats not the predictability of SF2, thats the predictability of the bad AI

Retr0gamer · 15-09-2003 3:27pm

If you play some one good, kdjac (which I've to do sometime since its been a long time since I've been beaten), you'll see just how much skill is involved with SF2. The computer AI is very predictable but it is good for practicing against cheese ball tactics.

Does anyone else think that KI isn't all that good a fighting game especially in multiplayer and only really good for showing off? I haven't played it all that much but the two player matches seem to consist of two people walking away from each other and daring each other to attack by throwing the odd fireball.

Falgorn · 16-09-2003 2:00pm

It may not be the best of the above games, but it certainly in my view made the biggest impact. I dont touch consoles now, and i havn't since i got into pc's about 8 or so years ago, but i remember Street fighter 2 on the Snes being one of the most highly played games of all time. If i was in a mates house, and offered a choice to play the latest and best beat em up on an x-box/ ps2 or play SF2 on the snes, id go for the snes!!!

Placebo · 16-09-2003 3:04pm

i dont belive this

Guilty gear X2 is the best fighting game out these days .
Play its, its awesome.

Capcom vs snk 2 is the ****est game ever .

Marvel vs capcom 2 is pretty good.

Samurai shodown 4 is a classic

Street fighter 2 turbo is a super mega classic
shortly followed by Street fighter 2 rainbow edition

Tekken 4 = bleh , Virtua fighter 4 seems nice .

i was in singapore and i played street fighter 3 , 3rd strike and street fighter 2 double impact and they were awesome, lucky dreamcast owners.

Retr0gamer · 16-09-2003 3:12pm

i'm bulling it that i couldn't convince my two DC owning friends to get a very cheap copy of SF3 while in America. Well it's their loss. And mine.

Creature · 16-09-2003 3:16pm

Originally posted by Placebo
i dont belive this

Capcom vs snk 2 is the ****est game ever .

i was in singapore and i played street fighter 3 , 3rd strike and street fighter 2 double impact and they were awesome, lucky dreamcast owners.

Yeah SF3: third strike is pretty damn good, I urge anyone with a DC to try to find a copy on ebay or somewhere, its worth it.

Arrgh how can you say that about CVSNK2?? Its amazing! Pure depth and gameplay, whats more to want? Ok so maybe they left out a good few characters that would've made great additions and some of the sprites are horrendously outdated *cough*Morrigan*cough* but other than that I reckon the game's nigh on perfect for a fighting game. One man's rubbish is another's riches I spose, or something like that.

honru · 16-09-2003 5:25pm

On Capcom vs. SNK, although Capcom unfairly gave their characters advantages over the SNK roster, its still a great series. The fact that these two companies crossed over is amazing, that alone makes this game appealing.
I want to try out the sequel on the Xbox. The fact that this is online (and you can turn off the damn "Easy Operation" settings) has made Xbox Live a serious consideration.

Finally Guilty Gear has been mentioned, haven't played it myself but it looks lovely. On a side note, Sammy and Capcom have teamed up to make (you guessed it) Sammy vs. Capcom for the arcades. SNK vs. Capcom SVC Chaos is also set for release soon.

While Ryu, Ken (plus Chun Li in Third Strike) are the only characters in Street Fighter III from the original games (all the others are new), I really want to get a game from this series. Pity its one of the valued Dreamcast games as far as eBay is concerned...

Placebo · 16-09-2003 6:47pm

Arrgh how can you say that about CVSNK2?? Its amazing! Pure depth and gameplay, whats more to want? Ok so maybe they left out a good few characters that would've made great additions and some of the sprites are horrendously outdated *cough*Morrigan*cough* but other than that I reckon the game's nigh on perfect for a fighting game. One man's rubbish is another's riches I spose, or something like that.

i think "bunny" on this forum explains it well when it comes to SNK vs Capcom, he was right when he told me it wasnt worth it, i used to think it was great and once i bought it, it was a let down.

The character select screen is BETTER than the ingame.
The sprites for SNK are awful, u can see huge pixels, ok let alon graphics, the game play is just dull. Whats with the endings ? from what i played characters doing have specific endings.

Groves/styles, backgrounds were good and the name itself but the rest of it is awful.

Sammy and Capcom have teamed up to make (you guessed it) Sammy vs. Capcom for the arcades

woohooo although i done see how Guilty gear X characters can be on the same screen as streetfighter ones - totally diffrent graphics, lets hope its not like Chun-li and morrigan on the same screem

Creature · 16-09-2003 8:39pm

Originally posted by Placebo
i think "bunny" on this forum explains it well when it comes to SNK vs Capcom, he was right when he told me it wasnt worth it, i used to think it was great and once i bought it, it was a let down.

The character select screen is BETTER than the ingame.
The sprites for SNK are awful, u can see huge pixels, ok let alon graphics, the game play is just dull. Whats with the endings ? from what i played characters doing have specific endings.

Groves/styles, backgrounds were good and the name itself but the rest of it is awful.

Ok firstly the character select screen? what exactly has this got top do with the overall game and how exactly can it be "better" than the ingame as you put it? Please elaborate.

Ok like I said some of the sprite are abd but c'mon not all them are, especially the SNK ones? My personal favourite out of the whloe lot('cept for maybe Bison) is Ultimate Rugal, surely you like his sprite!? Others like Ryo, Joe and Haohmaru kick ass. though Nakoruru sucks balls, I will give you that.

Ok the endings? You have a problem with the endings? Hmm I think you're playing this game for the wrong reason let me just remind you that this is a 2D fighting game, a 2D fighting game called Capcom vs SNK 2, a game that features a fair few characters who supposed to be dead if I'm not mistaken(Bison, Rugal, Vice for example). I mean no offence or anything but this is hardly the sort of game you play if you're looking for a deeply driven story/plot line. It's a well known fact that 99% of fighting games features crap storylines also.

As far as the gameplay goes, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it's great.

Placebo · 16-09-2003 8:46pm

Ok firstly the character select screen? what exactly has this got top do with the overall game and how exactly can it be "better" than the ingame as you put it? Please elaborate.

ok, well you start the game, you move forward to the character select screen and your like "holy ****" amazing, the characters look brilliant, then the game starts , theres new chunli on one side and then theres this old morrigan on the other, theres ken on one side then theres this poorly made Nakoruru.
i cant think of ne names, never played it much, but main point is if 2 games are too be joined then all the characters should be remade, if mortal kombat vs streetfighter was too come out then would you have prefered dark mortal kombat characters fighting with white bright ryu.

the reason i hate it, is because its like mugen, a 2d engine, charcaters are just thrown in.

as far as the fighting experience goes i have guilty gear x and after playing that Snk vs Capcom looked really bad to me.

Creature · 16-09-2003 9:21pm

I agree that the graphics are far nicer on GGX(have it myself after all). I just cant get to grips with the game, too much insanely high jumping and some of the characters are just too whacky for my liking. That guy wit the bag over his head??

LoGiE · 16-09-2003 10:01pm

Originally posted by Retr0gamer

Does anyone else think that KI isn't all that good a fighting game especially in multiplayer and only really good for showing off? I haven't played it all that much but the two player matches seem to consist of two people walking away from each other and daring each other to attack by throwing the odd fireball.

Your joking...Yes there was always blokes who would show off with massive combos but if two skilled players fought it was a different story. Hense the combo breakers, proper Air juggles and ultimate combos.

Placebo · 16-09-2003 11:07pm

I agree that the graphics are far nicer on GGX(have it myself after all). I just cant get to grips with the game, too much insanely high jumping and some of the characters are just too whacky for my liking. That guy wit the bag over his head??

yeah, dont like that character either

well i guess nothing can beat good old street fighter 2

Retr0gamer · 17-09-2003 7:55am

Well it's probably because i didn't give it much of a chance since I'm dire at it. I'll have to load up KIame more often.

Deadwing · 19-09-2003 12:06am

I voted Tekken, tho i was torn between That and Soul Calibur. I love Ivy, and Kilik rocks. Tho when it comes down to it, i didnt get jin kazamas tattoo done on my arm for nothing

Whos a rock star? Im a rock star *L*

Horsefumbler · 20-09-2003 9:40pm

Originally posted by Placebo
well i guess nothing can beat good old street fighter 2

Sorry but yur wrong. Although it was great in it's day I'd never go back to it from Capcom vs SNK 2. For starters it's desperately slow. But there have also been alterations to characters which stop the use of cheap tactics and force you to use more varied attacks. There's now a move or technique to counter everything; rolls, tactical recoveries, counters etc. There's a lot more depth to the gameplay now.

Capcom vs SNK 2 doesn't have great graphics, doesn't have that many stages for fighting, doesn't have specific ending for each character but for the all important gameplay- it's streetfighter at it's very best. Plus you got a shit load of characters to use.

i_am_dogboy · 21-09-2003 12:32pm

the poll should have included the smash brothers series, it's by far the best multiplayer fighting series out there

batman_oh · 21-09-2003 11:52pm

as for tekken not havin enough characters that are useful, thats rubbish if u are any good at the game, also i read somewhere above sayin that paul is too good! hes one of the worst in t3/ttt
anyway
tekken tag(arcade first,ntsc then, not the abominatin pal version)
king of fighters 2000 is my preference from them
sf2 turbo
soul cal2(bit of a silly laff, great for multiplayer)
tekken3
sf alpha3
virtua fighter2'(the version that the backdash was removed from!)
virtua fighter3
super sf2 turbo
tekken 4,
for me in that order

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