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Irish Times Article on Boards.ie

  • 29-08-2003 8:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭


    Was great to see the interview with Tom about boards.ie in the Irish Times this morning.
    Might get a surge of people coming to have a look today!.
    Nem


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 LorenaG


    Yup. It all looks very interesting - going to have a good nose round now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Yea. Nice bit of PR Dev.








    Now I'm off to flame the Gardening Forum :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Wook


    any chance to post the article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭elexes


    ye any chance of somone posting it up r am i going to have to have to buy the bloody thing .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭LizardKing


    Remove this if it is against copyright ... otherwise heres the article

    **********************************************
    Boards.ie knows how to get people talking
    By Karlin Lillington


    Irish online community bulletin board website is proving a popular destination for those who want to sell a car, debate the state of the nation's broadband system or have their say on the pub smoking ban, writes Karlin Lillington

    Boards.ie, the online community bulletin board website, has achieved on a shoe-string what several big, venture capital-backed commercial projects have tried and failed to do: create a vibrant and popular online discussion community.

    The three-year-old website, where members can hop into discussions on everything from the pub smoking ban to pet care, gardening to computer hardware, philosophy to gay relationships, just reached its one-millionth post - and even its founder, known online only as the gruff and feisty DeVore, isn't sure why.

    "We're pretty rude to people sometimes. We run it as, 'if you don't like this, then just feck off'. We call it Big Boys' Rules - people have to be fairly civil and we ban people who aren't. But if people didn't like it, they wouldn't be flocking to the site," he says.

    And flock they do. According to DeVore - who in his alter ego is Tom Murphy, a self-proclaimed computer games geek who runs a Dublin Web design company - Boards.ie has around 6,000 active members (membership is free), many of whom have posted well over a thousand posts.

    The site is now one of the largest in the State, with more than 2.5 million page reads every month. Members join at a fairly consistent rate of about 25 a day, and participate in more than 300 individual discussion forums. You can buy or sell a computer or a car, get advice on the Linux operating system, debate the state of the nation's broadband internet system, all from your keyboard and screen.

    "Each of our boards has its own flavour. Each brings its own culture because of the crowd that goes along with it," says DeVore.

    Some 300 people are on the site at any given moment and they log on at times that directly reflect the Irish working day. The first rush comes at around 9 a.m., followed by a surge at 11.30 a.m., presumably as people go on a break.

    Lunchtime is busy, and then comes another surge at 3.30 p.m., again at 5.30 p.m. before people head home, and then, at 7 p.m., as the home crowd goes online. There's a "weird peak" at 12.30 a.m., "when all the online gamers stop playing and check the discussion boards before going to bed", says DeVore.

    The busiest day of the week? "Tuesday lunchtime," he says, but he doesn't really know why.

    In its relatively short life, Boards.ie has been the subject of tirades, gushing praise, bitter fights, and a Trinity College Masters degree. DeVore is the community's "benevolent dictator", who, with a handful of systems administrators - the all-powerful Jedi Knights who dispense summary justice in the Boards.ie universe - oversees the site.

    They in turn are supported by their standing army of some 200 forum moderators, who watch the discussion "threads", or conversation topics, to make sure posters remain within reasonable bounds - although as DeVore happily admits, the admins get to decide what is reasonable, and throw people off on a regular basis.

    The disgruntled exiles are welcome to post in their own special forum on Boards - called "prison". Very few do, although some vent their spleen and a couple more meekly ask to be reinstated. DeVore has been threatened - including some death threats - by people thrown off Boards.ie, but he says most threats are pretty innocuous, and there are few problems overall.

    "For the amount of people we have, we have very little trouble. The door policy is just that you have to be civil. At the same time, we're not a crèche. We let people vent their anger," he says.

    The more rambunctious crowds tend to congregate on the political discussions areas, and places like the soccer forum, DeVore notes. "No one has a row or a flamewar on the gardening forum," he says with a grin.

    But setting aside the few members that do get overly unruly, the Boards.ie community is all about debate, argument and discussion. DeVore and the admins are passionate about encouraging real discussion.

    "As a society, we don't discuss topics anymore. We get fed soundbites by politicians and the media." The closest the Republic has come to a real discussion forum in the past has been, "God love 'em - the Late Late Show," says DeVore.

    But Boards.ie has made a difference - as even its fiercest critics have to admit. After the site gave a home to the discussion forum for a tiny new lobby group campaigning for affordable home broadband internet connections called Ireland Offline, the group gained immediate visibility, attracted members, drew thousands to its forum, and now has become a notable lobby group that no broadband stakeholder - from the Government to regulatory agencies to network providers - can afford to ignore.

    Boards.ie recently introduced a special "commercial interaction" forum, where companies can have their own discussion boards with Boards.ie members.

    At the moment, participants include computer parts and Web-hosting companies that - if tentative at first - quickly found that they could get an enthusiastic market for their offerings by making customer service something highly visible rather than hidden away.

    DeVore's latest idea - after visiting the ruins of Pompeii and seeing the debating chambers, in which all members of the ancient community were encouraged to thrash out matters of importance - is to create "a mature debating forum" on Boards.ie, with teams of people prominently associated with the sides of a given public issue. Each side will post and respond several times, with the winner declared by an equally prominent judging panel.

    Run as a limited company with a board and shares - but virtually no income outside of what covers - sometimes - its operating costs, Boards grew out of a discussion forum for online gaming aficionados in the Republic.

    Its success probably has to do with the fact that it was built from the bottom up, in response to what members wanted, he says, and is run by moderators who do it for the love of it, not for pay. "Boards don't really work on the back of planning things," says deVore.

    "Stuff just happens. We don't really want to go tinkering with something that's working."

    Karlin Lillington email: karlin@indigo.ie website: www.techno-culture.com weblog: http://weblog.techno-culture.com
    ****************************************************


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Wook


    kinda cool article , except who the hell is Devore !?

    :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    A nice read, I feel all speshul :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭p.pete


    There's a gardening forum:confused:

    No seriously, great article and good publicity:)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    You who's this devore chap they keep mentioning :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,604 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    great article and its werid about tuesday lunch time being the busiest time of the week.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭fisty


    could have done with more swearing and blame laying though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Havelock


    The swine stole my "benevolent dictator" line. Other wise thought a really good interview. Nice and concice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭MiCr0


    its online here for any one who's looking for it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    Originally posted by Havelock
    The swine stole my "benevolent dictator" line.

    I think not - HE himself used it back in 1999


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Aye, I'm afraid I have prior patent on that term :)

    Um, hello to any n00b's and welcome to our humble (or not so frickin humble) abode!
    Dont worry, the nausea and dizziness passes with time.

    I was happy enough with the article apart from overstressing my role here and understressing the mods and other admins but I guess journalists always want a single face/person and I guess thats my job here hahah...

    Gruff and fiesty?! I'm not fiesty! Fiesty is a womans word!!

    DeV.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    On the other hand I *did* nick the phrase "Big Boys Rules" from Merc_Tilt (afair!)... from one of his journals... (cheers Merc!)

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Lukin Black


    Way to go Boards!

    Great to hear about some positivity regarding the web in the media instead of virus, chat room lurkers etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Originally posted by DeVore
    Fiesty is a womans word!!

    Oh, such fight from a wee lass ;););)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    Pffft Boards :rolleyes:

    What sorta nob is gonna post over 1,000 posts here ?

    Losers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    P.S


    Nothing was said about the subscribers package!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Chaos-Engine


    was reading the times in work and i say this HUGE picture of Tom.... lol
    Nice 1
    Good article all round. But only 3 years old. I thought that it was older(5?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    hmm, i would have expected my name to pop us one of the trusted and most handsome members of boards.ie :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭fisty


    pretty boys get all the boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭Barry Aldwell


    Last time I checked 2003-1998=5 years


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Boards in it's current form is just over 3 years old. The boards it descended from (cloud boards) started in early 1998 I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    I thought DeVore was a woman :eek: shame on me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Well done DeVore and Boards.ie :)

    ....or is that one-and-the-same ?

    anyway, thumbs up all round !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Well done DeVore and Boards.ie :)

    ....or is that one-and-the-same ?

    anyway, thumbs up all round !!!

    :D

    Silvera.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭Barry Aldwell


    Originally posted by doctor evil
    I thought DeVore was a woman :eek: shame on me
    No, Devore isn't a woman. We're not sure about Amp, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Originally posted by LizardKing

    Boards.ie knows how to get people talking
    By Karlin Lillington

    ....although some vent their spleen and a couple more meekly ask to be reinstated. DeVore has been threatened - including some death threats - by people thrown off Boards.ie, but he says most threats are pretty innocuous, and there are few problems overall.

    Stormfront...? :ninja: Or someone from NUI Galway! :p

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    /me starts a 3 cheers for Boards, DeVore (nice house/flat btw) and all the other admins/owners (like cloud, ecksor etc).

    Hip hip hurray :D
    For this is a bloody good site for this is a bloody good site for this is a bloody good SITEEEEEEEE.....

    AND SO SAY ALL OF US :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Funky


    woooooooooooooh good job!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    That was a cool article, kinda weird when "online life" meets "real world life" though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    boards saves me from being bored! hurrah


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    ah sure who reads the times anyway!

    I heard some raido station recomend boards.ie a while back as well its geting some good publicity.

    Boards will grow it seems, not a bad thing really!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Originally posted by Barry Aldwell
    We're not sure about Amp, though.

    We just dont go there.

    Have the article, good one i have to say. Habe it now at home, framed on my wall with a shrine around it :)

    /me leads the Boardsies Cheerleaders out for another round of drinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    were all kinda famous!!!


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Boards is actually 3 years old in its current state. It started life as a mailing list on IOL, then moved to the Quake.ie site (in 1998) and thence to Clouds desk in NUIG and then on to its own server in America.

    Eventually we brought it back to Ireland and with the aid of the community have bought our own hardware and are located in Hosting365...

    We have been operating as "www.boards.ie" for 3 years and thats the real start date. However since we had a few hundred users from before we gave them all start dates of 1998 so that they wouldnt complain :)

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by DeVore
    started life as a mailing list on IOL
    Which one, Quake?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    heh, yeah, boards is fscking famous!

    even saw it advertised on the big screen at slane loike :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Originally posted by simu
    That was a cool article, kinda weird when "online life" meets "real world life" though!

    You don't wanna go to a Boards Beers then.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    You'll find Dadakopf does not exist IRL ;)
    Nice article but seriously, what sort of losers find enough time to get over 1,000 posts :eek:

    pld team boards.ie :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Ruaidhri


    The site is now one of the largest in the State, with more than 2.5 million page reads every month. Members join at a fairly consistent rate of about 25 a day, and participate in more than 300 individual discussion forums.

    Jebus! i never actually realised that boards so was damn big!
    well i suppose a congrats is in order!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Boards is bigger than jesus.com !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Originally posted by crash_000
    even saw it advertised on the big screen at slane loike

    Who was the smart-ass stage-hand who h4x0r3d that one up? :)
    Originally posted by mike65
    Or someone from NUI Galway! :p

    I deny any and all accusations.
    That is not my saliva affixing those 41c stamps to the "Waco" postcards.
    DeV is not the focus of ritual effigy burnings.
    All is well. Go back to bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Originally posted by ecksor
    Boards is bigger than jesus.com !!

    Famous last words, famous last words :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭Cloud


    Actually the IOL games mailing list was still going strong at the same time as the initial WWWBoard started on IGN's quake.ie (since the IGN and IOL were effectively running rival Quake servers), and though it may have died out as a result of the eventual popularity of that board, I'd put the origins of boards.ie to that first IGN WWWBoard (1998), then on to Cloud Boards (1999), and eventually boards.ie (2000). The first WWWBoard post I made seems to have disappeared, but it all started around 14 February 1998.

    DeV's first post - "Hmm I like this WWWBoard thingie :)" - prophetic!

    /me clears up history yet again!

    Thanks,

    John.
    --


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    good to see some recognition for this wunderba site!
    Ye should write yer memoirs quick while the fire is stoked!
    kaa*ching*

    ......maybe not.....
    heres to many more years of the same!

    What kind of jump in new users has there been since the article was in the paper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭elexes


    i rember that mailing list ... broke just b4 i went to spain in 2nd year and sent out 476 e-mails ... up at 4am deleating all of them connected at 9600bps .. that was annoying .. but its good to see boards.ie on a national newspaper . when will u be on sky news doing that teck section dev ?

    i did expect to see the subscribers package mentioned also .


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