Best RPG of all time ???

Big Ears · 24-08-2003 12:20pm #1

breath of fire, final fantasy, legend of dragoon ,grandia, and golden sun are just a few great rpg's but whats the best ??? and i dont mean just from this list. Any1 know a great rpg that never realy did well ??? send ur opinions

BLITZ_Molloy · 24-08-2003 12:26pm

Que alot of dull people saying FF7.

I'd say Phantasy Star 4. It has a magnificent story, seriously high difficulty and features pretty much all the features of the modern RPG. Now RPG's just copy the format eternally and slap new graphics and story on it.

I remember when RPG's used to innovate.

Big Ears · 24-08-2003 12:37pm

who else has actually played legend of dragoon? cus that game rocked. definetly my fav.or maybe the original brath of fire or the original final fantasy damn they're all so good!!!

Catsmokinpot · 24-08-2003 12:39pm

Nuff said

Sarky · 24-08-2003 12:44pm

Planescape: Torment.

Excellent storyline, wonderful character development system, and never really got the success it deserved.

i_am_dogboy · 24-08-2003 12:59pm

Originally posted by Sarky
Planescape: Torment.

Excellent storyline, wonderful character development system, and never really got the success it deserved.

Indeed, and it has lim lim's. Fallout was great aswell, but i'm not sure if it did well when it was originally released

Retr0gamer · 24-08-2003 2:25pm

I palyed Legend of Dragoon and it was just plain average. It wasn't much fun to play and was really spoiled by a dire translation.

My favourites in this order are:

Final Fantasy VII
Grandia
Suikoden 2
Xenogears
Final Fantasy VI

All positions subject to change of mind.

PHB · 24-08-2003 2:30pm

Ultima 7 / Planescape Torment / BG2 / Fallout 2

Its a hard choice, all have their good points.

_CreeD_ · 24-08-2003 3:45pm

Morrowind.
The 'truest' RPG yet made in that while there was a story to follow it was completely up to you how and when you went about following the arc and you could spend (literally) months doing anything else you liked. Absoutely stunning game.

Sand · 24-08-2003 5:51pm

Baldurs Gate 2.

BlitzKrieg · 24-08-2003 6:35pm

has anyone ever played the panzer dragoon rpg? it was for the saturn looked bril cept i never got it...

GreenHell · 24-08-2003 6:38pm

Divine Divinity.

super_furry · 24-08-2003 6:46pm

On pure nostalgia - The Lords of Midnight on the C64, but it aged terribly so I'd go for either FFVII or Terranigma with Icewind Dale close behind.

cr1spy · 24-08-2003 7:17pm

Baldur's Gate 2 wins by a country mile.

Simply one of the best games ever.
It has everything- music, depth, replayabilty, story.....

I used to love FF7, but compared to this it just seems childish and shallow.

Deus Ex, Planescape Torment, and Fallout come close, but BG2 is pure magnificance.

Funky · 24-08-2003 7:51pm

Daggerfall

if mmorpg's are allowed i'd say Ultima Online though

Nexus · 24-08-2003 8:35pm

Xenogears is the business!

nadir · 24-08-2003 9:57pm

Ultima 7 -The Black Gate & The Serpent Isle-

Gummy Panda · 24-08-2003 10:34pm

I loved FF7, Desus Ex and fallout.

I just ordered Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for the xbox. does any know if its any good??

Sarky · 24-08-2003 10:38pm

Originally posted by clownboy
I loved FF7, Desus Ex and fallout.

I just ordered Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for the xbox. does any know if its any good??

'Sallright. Really more of a hack'n'slash affair than true RPG, but quite interesting. Looks gorgeous too, which is always nice. Worth your time, certainly. Two player mode is very cool...:)

*NemesiS* · 24-08-2003 11:02pm

Gotta be ff7, followed by crono trigger, Zelda oot and BG2!

Shinji · 24-08-2003 11:28pm

Going to have to be dull and say FF7 I'm afraid... Although I fully confess that there are rose-tinted glasses going on there. I've probably enjoyed Xenosaga, Grandia, FFX and possibly even FF9 more since then.

Karl Hungus · 25-08-2003 1:36am

I think my favorites would be:

Deus Ex
Planescape: Torment
Finaly Fantasy VII
Baldur's Gate
Gothic/Gothic 2

And I hope for something as grand and engrossing as those games will come out soon.

But as someone suggested Morrowing, I personally disagree. It was very much quantity over quality, and style over content. I'm sorry to the fans, but I felt it was. I found that the makers were too busy putting in 50 too many little towns, and didn't focus enough on the main cities of the game, didn't flesh them out or give them enough character. It just got immensly boring after a while, and the side quests were as dull as hell. If the game had been a quarter the size, and more attention payed to making it a better scripted and more immersive world, maybe a more intersting combat system than the 'Clickedy Clickedy Click' that really makes the game repetative, then it probably would've been a far, far better experience.

RockViper · 25-08-2003 3:37pm

It has to be a toss up between Baldur's Gate 2 and Ultima 7: The Black gate. I'll never get enjoyment out of games like I did with those

.

I bought Ultima collection ages ago but I can't get U7 to work for the life of me. Its feckin annoying because its sitting there(expansion packs 'n' all!) and I can't play it!

_CreeD_ · 25-08-2003 6:38pm

Hmm, but at the same time you're asking for more quantity in the cities themselves, just less of them as in other games, concentration rather than content improvement. I liked the lack of scripting, it was the game's strength to me. I Love more linear games like Baldur's and Neverwinter nights etc. but the freedom in Morrowind was the clincher for me. As for the combat system, no it wasn't perfect but again preferable to the point, click and wait to see what happens version used in most others, your stats played a part but so did your own reflexes.

nadir · 25-08-2003 11:03pm

Originally posted by RockViper

I bought Ultima collection ages ago but I can't get U7 to work for the life of me. Its feckin annoying because its sitting there(expansion packs 'n' all!) and I can't play it!

How come? always ran fine for me, altho It used to run way to fast. Just in case u dont know there is a prog called moslo to bring it back to the origional speed.

Tellox · 26-08-2003 4:54am

the secret of mana.

****ing brilliant stuff.

Ping Chow Chi · 26-08-2003 7:26am

Suikoden (1+2)
FF7
Baldors Gate

RockViper · 26-08-2003 1:49pm

Originally posted by nadir
How come? always ran fine for me, altho It used to run way to fast. Just in case u dont know there is a prog called moslo to bring it back to the origional speed.

Only 1, 6 and Akalabeth run for me. Its something to do with windows and DOS, most dont run if you have windows installed.

MisterAnarchy · 26-08-2003 2:04pm

Legend of Zelda:Ocarina of Time.
Not only the best RPG game of all time but arguably the greatest game of all time.
Just played it again last week.
Its perfection.

Retr0gamer · 26-08-2003 3:19pm

They didn't get much mention in this thread or even in my top 5 but I find console style turn based strategy RPGs totally life absorbing. Maybe it's due to Shining Force 2 being my first RPG.

Currently I'm playing the second story of Front Mission 3. It's a great game and well worth getting especially if you like the Shining Force games and it has a huge lifespan with over 150 missions split between two stories and multiple paths. Other games of note in this genre are Shining Force 1+2 (of course), Vandal Hearts (1+2), Front Mission 1+2 and the bastid hard Final Fantasy Tactics. After I beat Xenosaga I'm going to devote a large chunk of my life to finish FFT.

Jim · 26-08-2003 3:21pm

zelda : a link to the past, for me.

never really liked the whole turned based fights in final fantasy.

Naar · 26-08-2003 5:12pm

Wasteland, if you can ignore the pig-ugly graphics and concentrate on how badass it is.

Crunch · 27-08-2003 2:37pm

certainly Daggerfall and Morrowind. And for the record, I don't consider games like Diablo RPGs at all.

Would think Deus Ex and Gothic 2 are good as well, but I only ever saw reviews and screenies, never played 'em
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deadduck · 27-08-2003 3:31pm

shenmue on dc. best i ever played anyway

Karl Hungus · 27-08-2003 5:22pm

Originally posted by Crunch
Would think Deus Ex and Gothic 2 are good as well, but I only ever saw reviews and screenies, never played 'em
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Deus Ex is one of the greatest games ever made, on any platform, or any time. It's as ahead of its time now as Syndicate was back in the day. You can probably pick it up for a tenner or so anywhere. Well worth it.

Man eating cow · 28-08-2003 2:39pm

Zelda on the Nes was the game that made me pick up a controller in the first place. Legend Stuff....

but final fantasy 7 is one of my fav games of all time... excellent story.

anyone agree?

casper- · 28-08-2003 2:50pm

Too hard to pick one

- Deus Ex definitely had a lot going for it
- FF3 / Chrono Trigger were great when i played them (high school)
- Ocarina of Time was great too
- Baldur's Gate .. except that it was kinda hard to play a magic user early on with 2ed rules which leads us to ..
- Neverwinter Nights! Very good storyline and gameplay

orangerooster · 28-08-2003 7:18pm

Baldurs Gate two is an unbelievable experience-it has everything in massive spades.Buy it now with the expansion pack if you can.Totally engrossed me like no other rpg ever has and I imagine never will.Also Deus Ex of course rocks a lot,I did enjoy ffx quite a bit.but for me BG2 is unsurpassable.

Zukustious · 28-08-2003 7:20pm

Chrono Trigger. Has to be Chrono Trigger.

Kold · 28-08-2003 7:40pm

It has to be doesn.t it?

Is Pokémon an RPG? if so the first two were great

Retr0gamer · 28-08-2003 8:35pm

I'd call them RPGs. Great games despite what you think of the pokemon name.

fisty · 29-08-2003 8:41am

Zelda 2 on the nes, it set the standard for years to follow.

all the zelda games, and also faxanadu on the nes....

dNC | Tickle · 29-08-2003 8:50am

OBVIOUSLY the best of the rpg's was Legend of the mir! you couldnt get any better...

fisty · 29-08-2003 9:02am

Are we as stupid as you?

Kold · 30-08-2003 5:12pm

doubt it

hamster · 31-08-2003 1:45pm

Hey RockViper,

<sorry to be of topic - but here's some help on that>

You can get Ultima VII working again! Go to Exult's website at http://exult.sourceforge.net/

All you need are the original disks.

hamster · 31-08-2003 1:49pm

Oh yes, forgot to mention... Ultima VII I thought was one hell of an RPG. My favourite one really with a great story!

Is1ldur · 31-08-2003 4:32pm

Has to be the Shining Force series, 1 & 2 in particular. I also have fond memories of playing Defenders of Oasis on the Sega GameGear. Great Story. I bought Baldurs Gate 2 about 6 months ago, but have never played more that 30 mins. I don't know what is wrong, but I don't seem to click with it. I must also admit to loving FFVII and FFIX, I hated 8 though.

i_am_dogboy · 31-08-2003 5:35pm

Originally posted by Count666
I bought Baldurs Gate 2 about 6 months ago, but have never played more that 30 mins. I don't know what is wrong, but I don't seem to click with it.

once you get out of the dungeon at the start and meet up with some of the npc's it's a really good game, and it's funny as hell in bits, i prefer fallout and torment though

RockViper · 01-09-2003 12:26pm

Originally posted by hamster
Hey RockViper,

<sorry to be of topic - but here's some help on that>

You can get Ultima VII working again! Go to Exult's website at http://exult.sourceforge.net/

All you need are the original disks.

Cheers for that hamster! Got it working, yay! Oh yes it feels great to be playing this again.

wild_eyed · 02-09-2003 10:07pm

what is the best "top-Down" RPG for the pc?

Best RPG of all time ???

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