Netsource return to normal service ?

Ste-

Getting downloads of half speed and lower then they stop for a few seconds. Then resume again.

Second night in a row now this has happened.

Pings as below.



Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Carroll>ping clarity.jolt.co.uk

Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=58
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=58
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=58
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 40ms, Average = 36ms

Tazzle

http is shagged, this means http downloads too, you must use proxy, proxy.netsource.ie port 80

flav0rflav

Hmmm, behaving erratically at the moment.

As regards the proxy, isn't it intercepting web traffic anyway?

ando

Grr, hope this aint becoming a regulary thing

MrPinK

Netsource, IOL and UTV all suffering from problems with d/l speeds at the same time. Coincidence?

Ste-

Originally posted by Mr.Taz
http is shagged, this means http downloads too, you must use proxy, proxy.netsource.ie port 80

Done this last night made no difference.

Tazzle

Well it's perfect for me since I started using proxy...

ando

ah wtf, now my pings have gone $hit:

C:\>ping clarity.jolt.co.uk

Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=171ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=171ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 171ms, Maximum = 203ms, Average = 183ms

flav0rflav

Downloads seemed to improve for a bit, but then i started playin bf1942, and the pings are acting up.

sReq | uTeK

its a conspiracy by eircom to try and out you off them and you then come to them

Tazzle

Yup, gone down the shítter.

Ste-

Back to top speed.

Warez m0nkeys ?

ando

is this happening to anyone tonight? My downloads speeds are all fecked

Ste-

Yep my download speeds are slower again tonight.

:rolleyes:

Mutant_Fruit

this could be a global thing... as my isp i screwing the pooch aswell.

my download graph looks like the one shown above (i just copied it here from other post)

i average between 2 and 10k and my pings are a-wall. is this something to do with all the internet routers being rebooted and all the connections having to be reformed? (i;m not sure when this happened or if it would affect this at all)

Tazzle

Perfect here in cork...

flamegrill

Perfect in Carlow too

To blacknight solutions quake server:

Pinging 217.114.170.92 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 217.114.170.92: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57

Those are elite times

/me hugs his dsl modem

Downloads im not sure of, im using the same box as a proxy for myself lol

Paul

UbahOne

Ive been getting quite similar in terms of the pics as posted above...one minutes its constantly in full throttle then it drastically slows down...

Has anyone been in contact with their respective provider and if so, what have you been told?

Im with IOL by the way...

flamegrill

Anyone using broadband and needs a decent proxy give me a PM or an email (paul at blacknightsolutions dot ie) and for a smallish monthly fee I'll grant ya access to it.

It requires a static IP as its restricted using access lists and a firewall.

Paul (using it for about a week now, very good )

Beck Amerdam

flamegrill, I'm very very jealous of those pings

UbahOne

Why are my pings CONSTANTLY perfect and my downloads crap a lot of the time...? Iol bband...why oh why...

If only i was a games player, id be loving these pings. But i like downloading stuff!!!

ando

got this reply after I sent in a complaint:

Unfortunately we're noticing that contention is kicking in in a few of
our exchanges - but it's only at certain times - customers seem to
notice it most in the evenings when the homeusers log on

things can only get worse as more people join...

UbahOne

They gave no other answer as to what they are going to do about it?

MrPinK

If it is contention, then there's not much that any of the other ISP's can do. Someone said today that eircom only have 2Mb lines at the exchanges. If this is true, then eircom need to sort this out quickly. The 50:1 contention ratio was found to work in other countries based on a 10Mb line at the exchange.

UbahOne

Lovely...that makes it easier for me to get out of this bloody service then if im getting below par modem speeds or somtimes 33.6kbps.

Lockup

2 169 ms 183 ms 180 ms rt004dub.netsource.ie [213.79.63.254]
3 188 ms 204 ms 197 ms aurora.medianet.ie [212.17.32.48]

This is the third night after 7pm in a row Netsources core network is heavly contended. Dont care about evening time users or anything like that. Saw this crap before from this company and it seems to be happening again. Evenings get bad, then daytime gets bad , complaints etc.

Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=213ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=208ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 146ms, Maximum = 213ms, Average = 191ms


Pinging www.boards.ie [217.114.166.147] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 217.114.166.147: bytes=32 time=213ms TTL=58
Reply from 217.114.166.147: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=58
Reply from 217.114.166.147: bytes=32 time=204ms TTL=58
Reply from 217.114.166.147: bytes=32 time=184ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 217.114.166.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 180ms, Maximum = 213ms, Average = 195ms

flamegrill

It was fine from last wednesday evening until last nite for me, now I know my exchange only has a handfull of users, so there is no its near maxed out yet. So it must be the backhaul they have for the soho product off eircoms network. Time for another increase in bandwidth I think netsource.

Paul

ando

Saw this crap before from this company and it seems to be happening again. Evenings get bad, then daytime gets bad

yeah, this is starting all again. Its just one big circle with netsource. I wish they'd invest in some proper bandwidth and be proactive instead of reactive in relation to bandwidth. At least eircom have a reliable network.

Pings are $hite again tonight, and generally the quality of the service has been less than great for the last week. Will this weekend be the first all laggy weekend?

Mthor5

on netsource soho,and the pings are bad after 6pm(300+,compared to 60- during the day)for the last 3 days,even browsing webpages is brutall as it takes nearly a minute to load a page!on me holliers till next week so heres hopin they sort out something from then:(

thomasb

At the risk of getting shot....

The problem is now that contention is kicking in at the exchanges - there is no issue on the backhaul (incidentally - traffic usage went down slightly this week).

There is a 48:1 contention ratio on the exchanges - I am not sure, but I think that the way Eircom do it is to provision 512k out of the exchange for the first RADSL customer (regardless of ISP - this contention is not ISP based), and that path is not increased until customer 49 is enabled.

The fact that its working fine for customers in some areas and not others, only serves to support the theory that the contention is now exchange based.

Thomas

Beck Amerdam

I notice you didn't mention a solution in that post

MrPinK

There's not a lot that can be done about contention. It was bound to happen eventually.

This is what happens when we let ppl know how good broadband is! We should have told them it was **** and a waste of money. That might of kept them off our exchanges.

thomasb

Solution is simple if you're on an over contended exchange.

Buy a less contended service.

I know thats not what people want to hear - but ultimately it is the only solution.

Thomas

eth0_

Did you honestly expect lightening fast downloads when you're on cheapy RADSL with...NO CAP? All the warez monkies in Ireland went for netsource for precisely the fact there's no cap! Face it, (fair) caps work, they're put in place for a reason....if you want fast downloads 24/7 buy a 20:1 or 8:1 business dsl/wireless product...

MrPinK

The d/l speeds have always been, and still are, fine. It's pings that everyone always seem to complain about, can never understand why. It's just a couple of extra milliseconds after all.

Supercell

Hmm, this is strange, i'm a nesource user, and last two nights things went back to normal, ie pages load instantly, and no problems with downloads at all.

A few days ago i was having very slow page loads and slow downloads, which coincided with eircom users complaints..

Dont understand whats going on.

UbahOne

Etho do you ever help anyone out or do you just bitch? FFS if your going to help someone out, do it. Don't put people down.

bizmark

Ubahone

She,s right and she did help she suggested a better product

UbahOne

Ye she suggested a better product but this

Did you honestly expect lightening fast downloads when you're on cheapy RADSL with...NO CAP?

may not have been the best way of putting it.

Supercell

Originally posted by thomasb
Solution is simple if you're on an over contended exchange.

Buy a less contended service.

I know thats not what people want to hear - but ultimately it is the only solution.

Thomas

Hmm....so will netsource stop selling to people on an "over contended exchange" ?

Tazzle

It's not contention.

UbahOne

It's not contention.

What makes you so sure?

Tazzle

Netsource's radsl is a resold Eircom package, therefore surely they share the same dslams as eircom. If netsource customers are having bad pings then why are eircom not? Also, how does every netsource customer suddenly happen to start having "contention" issues at the same time. Add to this the fact eircom have alot more customers yet are not suffering from bad pings? surely if the dslams are separated eircom customers should be suffering equally bad from contention since they'll have the bulk of customers?

The fact that a mate of mine spikes at the exact same time on a server on a different exchange and we have mutally equal pings all the time, even when bad, spiking etc. Shows it is not contention and a netsource side problem....

UbahOne

Ye that sounds about right actually...is yours bad now?

Tazzle

Nope, perfect at the moment.

gurramok

same here except for pings.
Has been decent enough since day 1 for me (May 17), maybe it is contention

carbsy

Aye , since the initial problems were sorted (late May for me) , I have no problems with Netsource.

carb.

Mixie

I was going to post here yesterday saying that my connection was perfect, that sure pings went up every so often, and jumped, but that the upper bound was about 80. I was going to post that, but I'm not.

I tried to play a game last night, and the lowest ping I had was 100, and that was on an empty server. It averaged 200+, spiking frequently, making the game completely unplayable... 56k was better

I'm not suggesting for a minute that Netsource are wholely or even partially to blame, but I'd like to see them get this sorted sooner rather than later.

d0gb0y

Up until last weekend teh pings on netsource where ok but since teh weekend the pings have been really bad. Yesterday was the worse where from about 5pm they went to 200+ to boards.ie. I wouldn't mind but my clan is in a tournament starting on Monday. I'm thinking that they oversold there bandwidth again :rolleyes:

fatguy

It may very well be more contention. Netsource have a bandwidth allowance from Eircom and when that's reached it's gg.

MrPinK

Originally posted by d0gb0y
I'm thinking that they oversold there bandwidth again :rolleyes:

Thomasb has said that traffic usage has been down this week. That would contradict the idea that they're running out of bandwidth.