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best unknown films?

  • 25-06-2003 7:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭


    Anyone who regularly goes to the IFC or the Screen etc. will know that there is a wider range of films released than what Hollywood rams down our throats on a regular basis. Anyone suggest any gems they've come across. I've been in carlow for the last couple of years where the cinema show nothing but the Ammerican Pies and Fast and Furiouses, what have I missed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Donnie Darko , but thats really well known now...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    yeah, gwan donnie!
    shame it all got fnucked up by 911.
    it would have been nice to see that film gross hundreds of millions in the box office.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭mavedic


    battle royale so i've heard. i haven't got round to seeing it yet, but i've heard nothing but great things about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Repli


    Originally posted by mavedic
    battle royale so i've heard. i haven't got round to seeing it yet, but i've heard nothing but great things about it.

    Its a great movie.. probably very popular in japan.. not so much over here..
    Another good unknown movie is Seven Samurai - its another japaese movie - the closing scene is one of the best fight scenes ive ever seen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Try the following...

    Waking Life
    Tape
    The Believer
    Bully
    The Experiment


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Wook


    'batteries not included' on LSD.
    'Battle Royall' on THC
    'Apocalypse now , Redux' to get you all funked up the visual way.
    'Ichi the Killer' Alcohol (prepare a nice bucket next to you)
    'Bad Taste' just as a starter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    Dog Soldiers.

    released in the shadow of some quite well known films so it sort of got overlooked. Great laugh.

    Brotherhood of the wolf.

    Different. Interesting sword fights and martial arts. Get subtitled version if at all possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    City Of God is excellent. Should be out soon to rent I'd imagine.
    The Warrior isn't bad, brilliant to look at, but doesn't amount to enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    intacto (sp?) was good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Jimi-Spandex


    I wholeheartedly agree with patch on the City of God thing. Probably the best film I have seen in the cinema in years. I think its out to buy in August.
    Others;
    Donnie Darko
    Metropolis
    Hana Bi
    Battle Royale is well worth watching
    Takasi Miike's stuff isn't bad (Ichi the Killer, Audition)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Remember "shopping" an old film starring Jude Law was really good. Saw "murder at devil's glen" on tv a few weeks ago, thought that was pretty good. Some of the films TV5 shows can be really good as well. A lot of those french actors have the puppy dog eyes that make every situation seem tragic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭davej


    Recent (in the last year or 3 or so i guess) good films include:

    In no particular order.

    Igby goes down
    25th Hour
    Adaptation
    Moonlight Mile
    Punch Drunk Love
    Confessions of a dangerous mind
    Dog Soldiers
    All or Nothing
    Donnie Darko
    Heaven
    Intacto
    Monster's Ball
    Harry, He's Here to Help
    Avalon
    In the Bedroom
    Lantana
    From Hell
    Chopper
    High Fidelity
    Narc
    Quills
    Requeim for a Dream
    Man on the Moon
    City of God
    Mullholland Drive
    Talk to her
    Solaris
    The quiet American
    Das Experiment
    Nurse Betty
    Insomnia
    Titus
    The Royal Tenenbaums
    Rushmore
    The Luzhin Defence
    Nine Queens
    28 days later
    Traffic
    The Princess and the Warrior
    Kiss of the Dragon
    Wonder boys
    Hedwig and the Angry Inch
    Training Day
    Dancer in the Dark
    Ghost Dog
    Read my lips
    Secretary

    davej


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    Late Night Shopping,



    Cant wait for City Of God to come out on DVD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭bringitdown


    Some good calls so far:

    Pi, Requiem For a Dream, Dark Days, Dancer in the Dark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    Originally posted by davej
    Recent (in the last year or 3 or so i guess) good films include:

    Uh...perhaps you missed the whole 'unknown' point of the question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭davej


    Uh...perhaps you missed the whole 'unknown' point of the question?

    Well "unknown" is a bit of a subjective term isn't it ?

    So far in this thread there have been only 2 movies that i haven't seen before, Late Night Shopping and Hana Bi. But you don't hear me complaining.

    I bet you that the average "goes to the odd blockbuster" person hasn't heard of at least half of the movies I've mentioned. The original poster mentioned movies that are shown in the ifc or the screen; for the most part these are the one's i've listed.

    davej


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    battle royale so i've heard. i haven't got round to seeing it yet, but i've heard nothing but great things about it

    great movie, adn theres a sequel on the way..

    as far as Daves list goes, alot of those films were in the big cinemas BUT many of them were fairly unknown ( no advertisen etc ) and maybe didnt get the seccess they deserved,

    but yea alot of them are great films , good job dave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    People don't nearly mention Memento enough.

    Brilliant film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    It's great, but you could hardly call it "unknown"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭bikini widow


    Hell Comes to Frogtown:
    80's B movie starring ex WWF wrestler Roddy Rody Piper as Sam Hell the last fertile man on the post-apocalyptic world who has to battle giant mutant frogs.

    Barbarella:
    Classic

    Assault on Precinct 13:
    street gang declare war on a cop station

    The Hunger:
    Graphic vampire tale starring David Bowie, Suasan sarandon and Catherine Deneuve. Bloody Brilliant


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Originally posted by k.oriordan
    It's great, but you could hardly call it "unknown"

    The original poster is looking for gems that have passed him by. Films that usually aren't shown in the big cinemas (like the big action flicks). He's not looking for films no one's ever heard of.

    So far I think there's a lot of good suggestions here. As Davej said it's also subjective. I might have heard a lot about Memento, Audition or Secretary, but that doesn't mean the average cinema goer has. So keep em comin folks, is what I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 trickster


    fear and lothing in los vegas is very good (bit long)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    Just remembered another I really enjoyed..... Session 9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭bikini widow


    The Day the Earth Stood Still:

    The Princess Bride:

    Rosemary's Baby:

    Sleuth:
    With Laurence Olivier and Michael Caine

    Charade:
    Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant

    Invasion of the Body Snatchers:
    (original 1956)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    "Sleuth:With Laurence Olivier and Michael Caine"

    Good call.

    2000 ad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Funky


    im not sure if its quite unknown but i only heard of it a short while ago

    Dr Strangelove or. How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb:
    its about nuclear fallout basically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭bringitdown


    Originally posted by koneko
    The original poster is looking for gems that have passed him by. Films that usually aren't shown in the big cinemas (like the big action flicks). He's not looking for films no one's ever heard of.

    In that case altho' most are well-known there are some gems in IMDB's top 250 list:

    http://us.imdb.com/top_250_films

    - 12 Angry Men
    - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
    - loads more

    Indy film top 50:

    http://us.imdb.com/Charts/Votes/independent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    Doberman
    Run Lola Run
    Taxi
    28 Days Later
    Dog Soldiers
    City Of God
    The Killer (Chow Yun Fat)
    Pitch Black is pretty good

    Davej, how are Traffic, Monster's Ball and Training Day unknown films?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭bandit


    'The taking of pelham 123' is an over looked classic staring Walter Matheau. Its about terrorists hijacking a New York subway train.

    Its where Tarrantino stole the colour coded gangster names in Resivoir Dogs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Caesar_Bojangle


    Pi, as in 3.14159265358979323846...

    Its a great film

    Battle royale

    Donnie darko

    Chopper - Its fuppin fantabulous, especially the scene
    were he is standing a the bar with his knob out

    Rushmore - classic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭delop


    Anyone seen 'The Limey' - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0165854

    The Arrival - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0115571 -Suprisingly good for a SiFi alien flick

    Requiem for a Dream - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0180093


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch



    Requiem for a Dream - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0180093 [/B]

    Ass to Ass.......Ass to Ass.......Ass to Ass :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Amnesiac_ie


    Top 5 "Lesser Known" films

    Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
    Waking Life
    Wild Strawberries
    Casino Royale
    Morven Caller


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    Threads

    Z for Zacharia

    When The Wind Blows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭havok*


    Not exactly unknown either. Was massive in art house terms, also doubles up as my fav film ever.

    Amelie

    Its a masterpeice of cinematography, afiak it won an oscar for it a couple of years back. Very very simple storyline, with tons of tiny sub plots and nuances. Great flick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭BoobeR


    Ringu, but thats not really unknown is it.. sorry :p:( ehm..
    Dog soldier's is good.:)


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The City of Lost Children
    Hard Boiled
    Once Upon a Time in China


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 schiele


    Probably the most captivating film I have ever seen that you may not have heard of is called 'Mother and Son' by Sokurov (he directed Russian Ark that appeared in the IFC recently). It's just over an hour long but is an absolute masterpiece - dialogue is sparce but the effect created by distorting the landscape and how both protagonists seem to merge with their environment is to be marvelled at - unmissable.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Dreams - by AK

    An excellent film - won the Palm Gore - Bad Taste (from New Zealand)

    Most films by Werner Hertzog & Klaus esp Fitzcaraldo & Aguira Wrath of God

    I forgot to record it and missed it completely
    - Triumph of the Spirt (ah well - will be back on BBC2 about 2017)

    Ivan the terrible - parts I and II - when you watch it remember it was done in the middle of WWII
    The german version of the adventures of baron munchenhausen - again a WWII film - negro actors etc - mad films when you take into account the context

    Battleship Potempkin - have not seen

    That one with peter lorrie and the hand

    temptation (griffith) - KKK PR piece from the 20's

    Metropolis - was on ARTE a while back - with the old german subtitles - gothic script - but hey who needs a script .. -most definetly not the queen version (but that's not too bad either)

    I loved Blade Runner - but try finding the one that is not the directors cut - it's a great noir detecive story

    the cars that ate paris...

    the visitors - the original french one
    delicatessen
    betty blue

    the icicle thief

    the one about the japanese guy going to Iceland to bury his parents

    poitin

    the swedish one about sophies dreams - great visuals - who needs hollywood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    aussie movie called Rabbit Proof fence


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭bikini widow


    man bites dog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭Tyrrial


    Igby Goes Down

    Fantastic. going to see it again as soon as i can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Have not read any of the other posts so dont know if they are good quality movies or just unkown films people enjoyed... anyway im only going to go on about Hong Kong style martial arts movies... There are the obvious big ones like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li... Anyway.. the unknown one is one that was on las night and not made by any of these 3!!

    Tai Chi Boxer was on CNX last night... excellent stuff.. like Jet Li's early stuff... Something along the lines of "Once upon a time in China" only not as well known... Subtitled of course but great stuff. Nothing compared to a masterpiece like crouching tiger but still great stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭beardedchicken


    Originally posted by therecklessone
    Try the following...

    Waking Life
    Tape
    The Believer
    Bully
    The Experiment

    absolutely- i'd agree with all of the above!!
    also people have been mentioning requiem for a dream, pi, rabbit proof fence, and donnie darko.

    some others i'd suggest are:
    office space- quite a few years old, but funny as hell- anyone in a menial 9-5 job will sympathise entirely!

    one hour photo- i've always found robin williams creepy but for totally different reasons- he does "bland, slimy guy" so well- storyline is excellent as well

    immortal beloved- quite similar in theme to amadeus- this one's about beethoven instead. it's excellent, but it'll never touch amadeus

    also, y tu mama tambien, and ghost world are worth a look


    oh, and by the way- dancer in the dark (i think someone mentioned it) - the single most depressing movie i have ever seen! just when you think things cant possibly get any suckier for her- they go right ahead and suck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    Originally posted by bikini widow
    man bites dog.

    Man Bites Dog is an awful, badly-written vomitous mass of excrement, - a pathetic and disturbing sorry excuse for the use of celluloid.

    I agree with Memento though - great film.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    When recommending films can you please state whether you are a wanky nerdlinger pretentious git. That way most visitors here will know that watching Pi or films where the 2 main characters merge into one can be ignored.
    While I'm here I have to give the nod to Heaven, Tykwer's (of Run Lola Run fame) latest which does almost fall into the pretentious/wanky but survives. I'm assuming it might meet the criteria of something that passed you by.
    For the Pi lovers try Eraserhead, one of the worst films I have ever seen (in fact Pi is actually good in comparrison) so you'll like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Cianan2


    Hey guys,i didnt see these films in here,but you should definately check out these two films.

    Fallen:Denzel Washington at his best,an absolute gem.(by gem,i dont mean shiney happy people,but a great movie)

    La Haine:French movie about the slums of paris,where teenagers are going through their "Fluck tha police" stage in life.Brilliant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Hip


    I'll second "La Haine", great film with great French hip-hop tunes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Hi there I'm new to this thread but I didn't see Fallen or ID listed.

    ID is about soccer holligism maybe not to everyones taste but I think it's a class film.

    Fallen on the other I think everyone will enjoy it's ranks as one of the best movies I've ever seen and I've seen many.
    It stars Denzil Washington,

    RENT IT NOW


  • Subscribers Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Draco


    Fallen is mentioned two posts above yours.

    I really like it myself, especially the chase scene about half way through.


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