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Scarification and Branding

  • 23-06-2003 8:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭


    Never really considered getting this kind of work done myself but i'm just wondering does anywhere in Ireland do it? Is it legal here? What are your opinions on it? blah blah blah:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭commuterised


    what does it mean?
    Is it a form of tattoo only without ink?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,136 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    It means to produce designs using scars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭solice


    i want to get it done on my back, a big circle going around, kind of like a rope design or else like an olive reed and then in the center get a tattoo of a flame and a dragon (all in black). it looks good in my head.

    i dont think that you can get scarred in ireland, i have never heard of a place that will do it but there are plenty of places in the uk and amsterdam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,136 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    i dont think that you can get scarred in ireland, i have never heard of a place that will do it

    You've never heard of O'Connell Street or Patrick Street so ;)

    Or Limerick for that matter :p

    If you're really lucky you might get an eye poked out, I'd bet you'd look cool with an eye patch :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭solice


    The upshot was that you wont find any studio where you can walk in and pay to get work done in Ireland.

    does that mean that i can take it that there are places that will do it on the qt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    Originally posted by solice
    does that mean that i can take it that there are places that will do it on the qt.

    There are, yes, but they'll usually only do it on people they know. PM me if you want to know who does it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Vlad_Tepes


    have nothing against tattoos or piercings, not even scarification, because it can be beautiful to change your body a little. But branding is too much...it's not even interesting. But that's my opinion, I guess there are people out there who like it.
    The most important thing about all those modifications is that you like it. What others think, doesn't matter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    I'd love to get a scarification done on my upper arms/shoulders to tie into my tattoo on my back.

    It would have to be the same design on both sides as I have this thing with things being balanced....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,136 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Would love to get some kind of scarification done. Love the little scars I have in places from various cuts through the years.

    It would have to be the white twine type scar though(don't know the proper term), hate those big raised red/purple ones(keloid/hypertrophihc scars). Have seen some manky looking scarification designs in the white twine category as well, the flower design in particular makes a person's skin look like a doily. Linear/zig zag ones are nice IMO, would love a slashed effect on my chest (maybe light red marking/white twine scar) although I'd have to keep my torso firm for it to stay looking good.

    maybe something like this scar but in slash effect: scar10.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭solice


    i want to get the laurel leaves (ancient greece) on my back as a scar, thicker at one end than the other so it looks like its 3d or going backwards, an elipse. i want that as a scar.

    and then a dragon or a flame coming up in the middle. as a tattoo.

    i would have to get half the scar done first, then the tattoo and then the rest of the scar for it too work

    it would be over the whole back, quite big, i will loose alot of blood. but heh it will be worth it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭curadh


    I should probably shut my mouth on this but i looked up some of the stuff on scarification and its sick. blood everywhere. not like normal tattooing, more like some crazy doctor with a scalpel. too heavy for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,136 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    you could probably do it yourself I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭solice


    you could probably do it yourself I'd say.

    would u seriously consider doing it yourself. i dont mind getting cut but something about human instinct and nature, i dont think i could cut myself. and anyway, how exactly do u get the right cut so the scar wouldnt turn out all red and bulbous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,136 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    nah probably not. Maybe if I get really depressed I can do something constructive while I'm cutting myself ;)

    But I doubt half the practitioners out there are any more qualified than someone who took the instructions off the internet...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 foymaster


    you could easily do it to yourself
    or get one of your mates to do it,
    if i ever want one i'd do it myself with a clean scalpel.
    i couldn't forsee any problems if you could withstand the pain.

    and cleaned it correctly, of course.

    if one of my mates asked id be happy to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭solice


    id like to see someones portfolio first, i know none of my friends have portfolios so thats a no go area with them. most of my friends dont have a creative bone in their body and are not even the least bit creeative.

    ill go to a "professional"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭coldenmean


    i dunno, ive seen some of the maori scarification and thought - wow - thats beautiful... but all the stuff ive seen on white people looks faded and blurry, and detail would seem impossible! now considering the nature of it and how one has to go about it to get it done may have somethin to do with so many bad ones or somethin... but maybe its our skin too? i think the darker the skin, the more defined the end result is, so i think it would be useless for me to look towards doing... unless it was a large and very simplistic piece, to complement a tattoo or something...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Jebuz! :D Detailed it is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭coldenmean


    yeah.. imagine that in a few yrs though... when its all healed up and fading back into the skin... i think the only scarification that looks well is the really really deep stuff so the scar raises a lot... though thats very hard to get done properly...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Kastro


    if any of yis know miss fantasias, glen the piercer in there.. he does everything.. to himself.. and imsure would do things on the qt for a nice high price.. hes got insertions, scarifacations (done with acid and scalpul as far as i know) hes got the lot.. askin him is yer best bet.. round the corner from stepens green across the rd from the hideout pool hall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 john grennan


    i was looking for it meself my tattooist said bodyshock in dublin is the only place certified to do it :D he said the man who does it wont just do you for the sake of doing you he needs a realationship with his client :) to make sure you are in a right frame of mind to get it done :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Being an unregulated industry in Ireland, I doubt there's any certification that he could get that would be valid in this country, but it's possible he got a certification elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Isadora


    Kay in Wildcat in Stephens green does some cool scarification. Check her out:

    http://www.wildcat.ie/index.php?main_page=gallery&JGALL_DIR=Kay/&JGALL_IMG=1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    Its a real pity scarification hasn't taken off here in Ireland, I suppose all we need is a few willing clients and artist.. sorry to say Im not one of the willing, haha. Definitely wouldn't have the balls to have someone take a scalpel to my leg for purely ashthetic reasons.

    And think about the aftercare, say you want a vicious lookin' scar, hypertrophic keloid the whole shibang.. I wouldnt be able to sit in my bath and scrub an open wound with lemon juice.. would you? :confused:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    This has to be a record---almost 6 year old thread.

    Id love to try something like the Liver bird above but I do reckon with my pasty white skin Id just end up with a slightly less pasty scar :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    Nothin wrong with grave diggin' as long as the topic is still.. topical :confused:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Nothin wrong with grave diggin' as long as the topic is still.. topical :confused:

    Maybe so but 6 years almost to the day is a bit much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    ireland is way behind the times piercing wise, hanging styles haven't taken off, large lobes are only a recent phenomenon (outside of piercers and tattooists)

    so yeah, won't take off for a while yet


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭hitlersson666


    i want it but it sounds (and looks really painful) i checked it out on bme (i ask myself why now?????) and loads of people (mostly emo's) do it themselvs (OUCH)!!!1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Gauge


    I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are you confusing self harming with scarification?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭hitlersson666


    nope well i might idk :? anyway the people who do it go for a design so i might me self-harm with a twist????? hmm..............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    i know a fair few folks with scarification, they're far from emo and not at all into self harm. They just wanted something different from the regular tattoo or piercing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    nope well i might idk :? anyway the people who do it go for a design so i might me self-harm with a twist????? hmm..............
    So what would you call it if a piercer was to perform a piercing on themself? or a tattoo artist was to do a tattoo on themself?

    If they're self harmers, then we're no better ourselves, paying people posing under the guise of a professional artist to scar and deform our bodies forever.. what were we thinking :pac::o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭hitlersson666


    i see your point (i pierced my lip and septum myself but i used proper needles and jewellery)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 bulletbreaker


    Hey. I'm doing a 30 minute radio show on bodyart. Part of the show is going to be about scarification. If anybody on this thread would like to take part can you pm me please.If you have gotten or would like to get scarification art done or you know someone who has we would like to chat to them. Or if your against it or whatever please let me know. If anyone has any contacts that might like to take part aswell could they pass this on to them. The show is gonna be on the whole topic of bodyart so if ppl have any opinions, stories, or even info they think we should cover on any area and would like to take part please don't hesitate to get in touch. I suppose what we want to do is get a regular show on the topic of body art from piercings to branding and everything in between. So to keep it fresh we need info in all areas and interesting topics and stories about the industry and this seems like a good place to start. It doesnt have to be just scarification so if you know someone with implants or interested in suspension that would be really cool. If it's not yourself but just someone you know that might wanna talk about any aspect of the above please just mention it to them as it's a little talked about area that the majority might might look down on so people involved might want to talk about the issue. Hope this post is still alive :) Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Govedge22


    Hello! Can anyone tell me if people have scarification or extreme body modification done for symbolic, meaningful reasons or to conform to a certain image? I'm doing a project on tattoos and body modification and trying to understand the reasons behind people's choices to get this extreme modification done to their bodies - Is it considered 'Art'? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Govedge22 wrote: »
    Hello! Can anyone tell me if people have scarification or extreme body modification done for symbolic, meaningful reasons or to conform to a certain image? I'm doing a project on tattoos and body modification and trying to understand the reasons behind people's choices to get this extreme modification done to their bodies - Is it considered 'Art'? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!!

    Yes we all conform to an image so we don't conform with people. We're deep like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    I think scarification can be really beautiful and I do have a design I'd like. I'd be quite wary of it though. I'd have to see a pretty expansive portfolio before letting anyone go near me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    I know this is bumping an old thread..but the question is still relative, and thought maybe being a few years, things would be different.

    Are they? is there more tattooist/piercers willing to do this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    I know kay(not sure which shop) did an awesome sauce job on wills piece


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    ah, that's grand.

    I'll probably look into getting something done when I visit a mate in the states.. branding being more accepted there, so should be easier to find someone with some experience s:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭Talula_d


    Hey,
    There's a place in Drogheda that does scarification, not sure of the name but ive seen some of his stuff and it looks pretty good!maybe google a tattoo shop in Drogheda and see!?


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