Netsource Slow

dwayneburke

Just run something by everyone...

I got knocked off on sat night 11pm and i only got "fixed" at monday lunchtime. I was not getting any traffic in out out of my router but it miraculously came back 2 hours ago (after a phone call) and as yet i have no reason given to me for the outage!!

However it seems very slow averaging around 32K/s whereby i was getting 55 K/s before.

I know this maybe down to the warez monkeys but it is unusual to have such bad bandwidth during the day!! I thought most of them are vampires i.e. sleep by day, download at night!!

Or, could it be that eircon aand co. moved me onto a crappy circuit?

Any ideas...

Dwayne

JohnK

Are you sure its not the server you are downloading from? About 2 weeks ago I was getting only about 20k/sec from a server and though it was a problem with my connection but actually the server had been set to allow a max speed of 20k per user. Then again it could just be somebody leeching a few "linux iso's" :rolleyes:

dwayneburke

JohnK

I appreciate what your sayin John , but i normally gauge my bandwidth through 4/5 different BB speed testers. I know they are not very accuarate but they do give a general idea.

Anyway probably jumping the gun, it think i will just make myself a cuppa and try agin later probably right about the ISO monkeys!!

No point in getting upset now..

Dwayne

JohnK

I personally dont put much faith in those tests since I tried one that told me I was on a 5mb line then 30 seconds later told me it was a 28k dial-up then later still a 1 mb line. Wouldn't mind but I only have 512k

Anima

Fidel what part of galway are you?

Any chance you know when it will be available in knocknacarra?

dr_funkenstein

m'in knocknacarra and i gots it

shinzon

theres so many NETSOURCE IS SLOW THREADS that theres no point in posting it again and again and again, theres nothing you can do until netsource sorts itself out, read the other posts first unless theres something new that you have to add

Regards

Shin

Anima

Funkenstein where abouts do you live in Knocknacarra?

What exchange you on? barna or the new knocknacarra one?

When did this happen??!?!?

Tazzle

quick someone grab his ip

dr_funkenstein

shantalla exchange, m'in clybaun area.

been active on dsl for a few wks now

Anima

Are you sure your on the shantalla exchange?

Because theres a knocknacarra exchange on the western distrubuter road.

melachi

If you want to test your speeds then don't test them through "broadband testers". Download from IE or UK servers you can rely on.

po0k

Originally posted by [-=RaVeN=-]
Are you sure your on the shantalla exchange?

Because theres a knocknacarra exchange on the western distrubuter road.

That's just a sub-exchange afaik, and the DSLAMS would be located in the centres of the networks to get the most clients into the one group.

Also, only the Mervue and Shantalla exchanges are enabled.

Piliger

Yes ! Netsource seem to have died yet again ! I'm in hankill.

Testing at http://www.irishbroadband.ie/speedtest/speedtest.html

I am getting:

The test page loaded in 47.879 seconds, indicating a throughput of <b>81777bps</b>.

and pings > 280ms !!

How long is this going to continue I wonder ?

-ADREN-

its only slow for some people mine rarely drops under 50kB/sec and i downloaded 16GB in 1 week

Just wondering what the HELL.. exactly did you download in one week that ran over 16gbs ... infairness..

ando

Originally posted by Piliger
and pings > 280ms !!

How long is this going to continue I wonder ?

I'm getting an average 7.5KBps download..... lovely, and my pings, well their f*cked as usual. I've sent plenty of emails complaining, and I rang them today, they told me to send emails of tracerts and pings, which I've done before iswell and it got me nowhere. They *kinda hinted to me that they may be getting more bandwidth as their customer DSL base is rapidaly expanding every day, dunno how true it is but

Tazzle

that's really poor i dunno how u put up with it ando, that state of affair is well beyond the acceptable use, you can quote the sale of goods and supply of services act 1980, not of merchantable quality and get out out of the contract that way.

satchmo

Well there's a difference between not being guaranteed 512k all of the time and never getting even 256k any of the time...

MrB

especially when the problem is nothing to do with the distance to your exchange or the quality of your line!

po0k

download something off of ftp.heanet.ie
if you get a poor speed it's your connection, not your source.

Tazzle

it doesnt matter what is in the contract that law overrules it, that product is clearly not of a merchantable standard, he has rights

ando

last night I was getting 7kBps from a good server. This morning before work (round 9am) I was getting 52KB from the same server and pings of 30 to the Uk. Its the contention on my exchange that is the problem, but I rarely use the connection at quite times

Tazzle

Let's hope they do actually double their bandwidth so.

LumoColor

Looks like they acknowedge the bandwidth problems:-

http://www.netsource.ie/html/servicestatus.html

Just home it comes :soon:

DRakE

Originally posted by Mr.Taz
it doesnt matter what is in the contract that law overrules it, that product is clearly not of a merchantable standard, he has rights

The smell of LEaving Cert business of ye

Tazzle

Junior Cert business actually

JohnK

Originally posted by LumoColor
Looks like they acknowedge the bandwidth problems:-

http://www.netsource.ie/html/servicestatus.html

Just home it comes :soon:

Nice one
It'll be nice to get more than 8k/sec in the evenings

Tazzle

yeh i hope so too

Sloth

Well they doubled their bandwidth a while back and it didn't help, whose to say this is going to make any difference?

ando

as far as I know they started with a 2meg line, then that went upto a 6meg line. That 6 meg lasted only a few days and now their going upto a 12mbps line I guess?

LumoColor

Is that all they got for all the users?

fatguy

Originally posted by Sloth
Well they doubled their bandwidth a while back and it didn't help, whose to say this is going to make any difference?

They TRIPLED the bandwidth and it made a huge difference, but now that there's more and more users coming into the system it's gotten steadily worse. A further doubling is going to take place which will put the system at 6 times its original capacity which sounds fair enough to me.

I understand the frustration, but when we've already received notification that they're working on the problem, there's no point in going on and on and on about it. Netsource is a fledgeling organisation trying to offer a service despite the best efforts of Eircom to disrupt them. There are always going to be teething problems.

Some of you people seem to just like whinging a lot.

Skittle

I don't know about whinging but on another Boards thread someone stated that Esat & UTV bought bandwidth from Eircom in 45 Mbit chunks. NetSource on the other hand seems to have bought bandwidth in 2 Mbit chunks which has now been shown as rediculous short sightedness. Even increasing the bandwidth to 12Mbit will only satisfy people for a short while, sure 6Mbit only lasted for about a week, the last time they [NetSource] upgraded the bandwidth....

NetSource need to learn from their msitakes before most of their customers 2 month inital contract period is up...

Skittle

I found the link to the Boards thread I mentioned in my post above:
Check out BKs post 10:20 on the 19/06/2003 on
this thread...

MrPinK

Bandwidth doesn't grow on trees and I doubt eircom are the charitable sort. You need plenty of cash before splashing out on that much bandwidth.

-ADREN-

soooo Utv if they ahve 45mbs allready.. that means if I get my broad band now.. it should be lovely and sweet 52k dloads and 40 pings.. shouldnt be like netsource at all??

Good then should I order it now? The quality will be good yea yea?

MrPinK

Also it seems Netsource bought their handover bandwidth from Eircom in 2MB increments, while UTV have hinted that they buy it in 45MB increments (probably the same for Esat) and I wouldn't be suprised to hear that Eircom buy it in 155MB increments.

That's were the figure came from. Doesn't seem too definite to me, but with a 5 Gig capped service the pings shouldn't be a problem. They are fine for eircom and esat the utv product it pretty much identical to them. I don't understand why ppl got so excited about it.

ando

a new low:



I'm cancelling this pile of $hite as soon as I get the chance

MrPinK

Something seriously wrong with your connection alright, I'd be pretty pissed too. This is what I'm d/l from netsource at right now

BArra

seems the netsource representitives have disappeared here on boards on the ns threads

ando u seem to be getting an awful service, if i were u get eircom radsl after ur contract runs up, it'll suit you perfect for gaming, 30pings in cs easy

bambam

Here's DU Meter running on my Netsource connection from Portobello

Tazzle

ando, do you even connect at the full 512k?

ando

its gotta be contention on my exchange, if most of you are getting higher speeds at the same time. I do however get full speeds at really quite times and 30ms pings. Its off to eircom I go once this last month's contract is finished, cause I aint taking any chances with a 12 month contract !

po0k

What ye seem to be foregtting is that this is an uncapped service.
Hence it drags in the leechers and warez monkeys like flies to shite.

We're getting it for our house simply cos we need the connectivity.
Also means I can IRC and check mail from my bed.
One of my life-long ambitions is about to be realised

MrPinK

IRC and mail checking, gotta have broadband for that

Why can't you do it from bed with dail-up? Not that I'm recommending anyone stays with 56k, bb is unreal.

bk

Originally posted by MrPinK
That's were the figure came from. Doesn't seem too definite to me, but with a 5 Gig capped service the pings shouldn't be a problem. They are fine for eircom and esat the utv product it pretty much identical to them. I don't understand why ppl got so excited about it.

Hi, I posted about the bandwidth amounts, just to make it clear that I don't know the figures for fact, I'm just extrapolating from various other posts on boards.

It is widely known that Eircom sell the handover pipes in either 2MB, 45MB or 155MB increments. Malcolm from UTV posted that 45MB pipes was the optimum increments to buy the bandwidth in. Now he didn't say that was what UTV buy it in, but it seems very likely.

The thing is in order to do this you need to have a lot of money up front as these pipes aren't cheap. It would seem to me that Eircom, Esat and UTV would have the available finance up front, due to their parent companies.

Netsource on the other hand seem to be coming at it from the approach of waiting until they get loads of customers, who are then badly contented and then double their bandwidth.

Netsources approach seems to be reactive rather then proactive.

Mixie

Originally posted by ando
its gotta be contention on my exchange, if most of you are getting higher speeds at the same time. I do however get full speeds at really quite times and 30ms pings. Its off to eircom I go once this last month's contract is finished, cause I aint taking any chances with a 12 month contract !

I think I got full speed once, it was the day they went from 2mb -> 6mb. I've never had a ping below 90, and in the last week I've not had a ping below 300.

aphex™

mixie: "I think I got full speed once, it was the day they went from 2mb -> 6mb. I've never had a ping below 90, and in the last week I've not had a ping below 300."

What exchange are you on?
I'm thinking of not signing up with any of the Cappers as a matter of principle, but this thread is only giving a sketchy picture of whats going on with netsource.

What sort of download speeds do u get?
Did you ring netsource and what did they say?

Mixie

They say im on the Clontarf exchange but a friend seems to think we're on a different exchange altogether.

Downloading at the moment at 21kB/sec - gave up on trying to game since my pings within the last half hour to UK servers were all 350+

Rang them about it twice now, both times I was told that they were working on it and would be increasing their connection as soon as possible.

Detonated Sauce

Hmm mixie I'm also downloading at 21kb/sec and my pings are terrible, I'm on the blanchardstown exchange though

d0gb0y

I signed up with them 2 weeks ago & I haven't seen a good ping yet. Its disappointing as I had wireless before & it was quicker at downloading & pings weren't always bad(when it rains). I think i'll have to go with east