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20-07-2005, 13:15   #1
 
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naughty isp advertising

Imagine launched PAYG Broadband for 9.99 this morning in Dublin.

It also launched Always On broadband for 19.99

www.imagine.ie
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20-07-2005, 13:22   #2
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Here are the details, it's the same as Eircoms timed service, just cheaper monthly cost.

We need to get away from these timed services, and have always on fixed mothly charge same as we get with tv services.

Monthly Charge € 9.99
Connection charge1 N/A
Router rental2 (monthly) €2.99

Pricing relates to first time DSL subscribers using self-installation. Migrating DSL customers incur an additional charge of €99.99. Site installation cost is €150.00

Or Router purchase €44.99
Downstream speed3 1024k
Upstream speed3 128k
Contention rate 48:1
Allowance 20 Hours
Excess usage charge 3.5c per minute Up to a maximum charge of €35

And the contention rate is 48:1 - A bit on the high side I think
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Just had a quick browse, looks like you have to buy a phone package too, around €30? Am I wrong?

€19.99 ('always-on')
+ €44.99 (connection)
+ €27.49 (basic phone)
+ €44.99 (modem purchase)
+ €24.18 (line rental) < ?

Absolutely crap download/upload caps, only 1mb/128k speeds.

Am I missing something here or are we going backwards from recent BT/DigiWeb/Eircom offers?
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That's not bad for light users. Never heard of Imagine though.
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Just had a quick browse, looks like you have to buy a phone package too, around €30? Am I wrong?
Actually you are correct, I just went through their sign up process and hey presto - it's an all in one phone and BB package.

That is false advertising on their front page.

Advertising standards need a call methinks

Anytime for Less - €37.99
Anytime For Less Off-Peak - €32.99
Anytime For Less Basic - €27.49
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Yeah, just noticed that too. Very bad form not mentioning it until you're into the sign-up process.
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That is false advertising on their front page.

Advertising standards need a call methinks
Yes it is false, where is the mandatory modem rental ? it is actually €12.98 , see here .

The T&Cs are cack or sneaky or both , I'd say avoid Imagine until they provide some clarity and honesty .
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This is the crowd who were giving out free €10 notes on Grafton Street this morning.

There is a thread over in After Hours on it.
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Watch out for the 35c a MINUTE bit

http://www.imagine.ie/faqs.php (Item Number 10)

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How much does Broadband cost?
Imagine Broadband 'On Demand'
First time broadband customers pay €9.99 per month for 20 hours usage. Thereafter, its €0.35c per minute.
Even if the T&Cs were written by a moron its scary that nobody sentient picked it up...unless its true

Jeez, now its €3.50 a minute

How much does Broadband cost?
Imagine Broadband 'On Demand'
First time broadband customers pay €9.99 per month for 20 hours usage. Thereafter, its €3.5c per minute.


What a bunch of gougers (or twats)
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Also noticed these guys are tied to the GAA - Grab All Association with their new Gaelic Telecom

http://www.imaginegroup.ie/gaelic.html
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Is this the same imagine who were shafting eircell and were effectively forced out of the mobile market kicking and screaming?
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Aren't Imagine! the crowd that had a mobile phone thing out a few years back and went bust? I'll take a quick look...
If it was them giving out the €10 notes earlier, then they are using the same gimmick they did a few years back.


[edit] yep, found it! [/edit]

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Exactly a year after his last venture was liquidated with a €10 million deficit, Sean Bolger has bounced back. The telecoms entrepreneur, who claims he was Telecom Eireann’s first competitor, hopes a deal with the GAA can be the money-spinner that has eluded him in recent years.

Bolger, an ebullient and open individual, is used to being written off. This time last year, he took a hit of "a few million" when Cellular 3, <b>a reseller of mobile phone minutes trading as Imagine</b>, was finally wound up after a series of court battles.

Around 150 people lost their jobs and 20,000 customers were left without a service when Imagine ceased trading. It was a blow that deflated Bolger, according to telecoms industry sources, but he quickly re-emerged with a new telecoms business.
found here: http://www.gaelictelecom.ie/press_article16.php

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If it was them giving out the €10 notes earlier, then they are using the same gimmick they did a few years back.
That's what I was thinking as soon as I saw this thread
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That's what I was thinking as soon as I saw this thread
great minds eh?!
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Exactly a year after his last venture was liquidated with a €10 million deficit, Sean Bolger has bounced back

A scam artist if ever there was one
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