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Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2020/2021 - see Mod Note in OP [18/11/20]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Jesus this rule is complicated

    Not saying it will happen but if Michael Obafemi does act the gob****e and refuses call ups and plays for Nigeria/England then it will be disrespectful


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Jesus this rule is complicated

    Not saying it will happen but if Michael Obafemi does act the gob****e and refuses call ups and plays for Nigeria/England then it will be disrespectful

    Just in case anyone is wondering about the rule:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114365215&postcount=9905
    sugarman wrote: »
    Also, this is fairly mental. FIFA are looking to change eligibility rules to enable players to switch even after competitive caps have been awarded.
    FIFA is helping soccer players switch eligibility and represent a second national team with a planned rule change announced Wednesday.

    The proposal gives hope to players who are eligible for multiple countries but fell out of favour at their first national team, where they are bound after just a single minute of playing time in a competitive game.

    The new wording would let players switch eligibility if they played a maximum of three times for the first national team — including tournament qualifying games — before they turned 21, and at least three years earlier.

    The new rule will take effect next month if 211 national federations approve it at the Sept. 18 congress that FIFA is hosting online from Zurich.

    A FIFA working group has tried for more than two years to shape the new proposal.

    A test case at the Court of Arbitration for Sport ahead of the 2018 World Cup is key background.

    Munir El Haddadi, now with Europa League finalist Sevilla, wanted to be selected for Morocco but lost his appeal against the FIFA rules. He had played just once for Spain in September 2014, as a 77th-minute substitute in a European Championship qualifier.

    The new rule would not help Brazil midfielder Oscar, who has suggested switching to China where he has played club soccer since 2017.

    Oscar would fail the test because he has played more than three times for Brazil, including after he was aged 21, and at a World Cup finals tournament in 2014.

    The proposal would bar nationality switches for anyone who played at a “final tournament of the FIFA World Cup or a final tournament of a confederation competition.”

    FIFA’s new flexibility even suggests letting players revert back to their original national team if they never actually play for the second one.

    The existing FIFA rules have been used by many players born in Europe — who played in national age-group teams or friendly games — and switched to African countries where they have ties through their parents or grandparents.

    In more updating of eligibility rules, FIFA wants to clarify how long players must live in a country before they can play for its teams.

    The proposal aims to help players who as children moved with their families to a new country for non-soccer reasons.

    Three years residency would be required if a player moved before the age of 10, and five years residency if the move was aged 10 to 18.

    FIFA’s existing rule already requires a five-year residency from the age of 18 if a player wants to acquire a new national eligibility.

    That allowed Brazil-born forwards Elkeson and Aloisio to switch to the current China team after they were naturalized as citizens.

    https://twitter.com/AP_Sports/status/1296388271312973824?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I don't think we need to worry about Obafemi. He sounded very committed when he spoke to RTE last year.
    "I think it was blown a bit out of proportion but at the end of the day, I was born in Ireland so I don’t see a reason why I should play for England or Nigeria," Obafemi told RTÉ Sport.

    "I knew that I was going to choose Ireland already, but obviously everyone from the outside were bringing England and Nigeria into it, but I don’t think I was ever going to choose any of the other ones.

    "I never really entertained any other options, didn’t speak to any other country. I knew in my mind what I was going to do."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Jesus this rule is complicated

    Not saying it will happen but if Michael Obafemi does act the gob****e and refuses call ups and plays for Nigeria/England then it will be disrespectful

    If he was going to play for Nigeria he would have chosen them, not sure if they even approached him and he's not good enough for England.

    Though this new proposal does mean the chosen one can return to Ireland, hasn't played for England in three years, just saying :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Damien Delaney is a really good pundit. Just watching a preview show here on virgin media ahead of the 2 finals this weekend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    sugarman wrote: »
    Yeah hes very good, love him on OTB.

    I'm surprised to see people say that. I was listening to him on OTB this week and thought the exact opposite, always feel like he is a bit of a spoofer or something. Seems like a sound bloke though, but don't like him half as much as most ex player pundits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    Article on BBC there that Mark Sykes is looking to switch from NI to ROI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Conor Ronan gone to Grasshoppers on loan

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    Article on BBC there that Mark Sykes is looking to switch from NI to ROI

    I know little about him but NI fans are seething about this on Twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    Article on BBC there that Mark Sykes is looking to switch from NI to ROI

    never heard of him but more the merrier I suppose

    Hardly getting into the squad tomorrow ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    never heard of him but more the merrier I suppose

    Hardly getting into the squad tomorrow ?

    I'd imagine there's paperwork to be done first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'd imagine there's paperwork to be done first?

    unless its been done in the background and only gone public today?

    Think Will Smallbone deserves to be in the squad cause you knw he's 'eligible for England' and tie him down and all that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    never heard of him but more the merrier I suppose

    Hardly getting into the squad tomorrow ?

    Plays for Oxford in league 1, played for Glenavon for years before that,

    Strange one though as he played a lot under Barraclough for their u21s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Conor Ronan gone to Grasshoppers on loan

    Disappointed to see they play in the Swiss Championship equivalent and not the premier. Would have been better to try get a championship club I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    I know little about him but NI fans are seething about this on Twitter.

    Gotta love the comments though about he wouldn't get into our team anyway, better chance of playing for that lot than us. Have they even got any centre midfielders playing in the Premier League anymore? Norwood retired from international football and Davis is playing in Scotland now but he's 36.


  • Administrators Posts: 55,847 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    He's a very good player but he is unlikely to pick up more than a few caps for the ROI to be honest. It's a strange move as he has a much better chance of playing more regular international football with NI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    I'd assume Stephen Kenny might have ahad an influence in this. What side of the divide is he from. Possibly an influential factor also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    I know little about him but NI fans are seething about this on Twitter.

    When players switch it’s always annoying to be fair to them. It looks like they’re making it easier for players to switch their national teams rather than harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,351 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I know little about him but NI fans are seething about this on Twitter.
    worth it for that alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    awec wrote: »
    He's a very good player but he is unlikely to pick up more than a few caps for the ROI to be honest. It's a strange move as he has a much better chance of playing more regular international football with NI.

    You could say the same about Declan Rice or Jack Grealish


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Obviously there'll be some here seething about a player changing country after playing for another's U21's right?......right? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    I’m reminded of the banner a couple of NI fans held up in Lansdowne during that Carling Nations Cup thing or whatever it was called.

    “FAI: Stop stealing our players
    You can keep Darron Gibson though”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    awec wrote: »
    He's a very good player but he is unlikely to pick up more than a few caps for the ROI to be honest. It's a strange move as he has a much better chance of playing more regular international football with NI.

    Could argue that he had a good chance of breaking into the Norths senior squad if he impressed in the Nations League. Jordan Thompson played a few games in the Euro qualifiers and he started last season on loan to Blackpool before before returning to Stoke.

    He's more of a central midfielder but has played on the right for a few games, and if you look at the last couple of players who declared for us they also play on the right. Might be a coincidence or the FAI might actually be pulling their socks up regarding activily recruiting players in positions we're short of options in.
    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    Strange one though as he played a lot under Barraclough for their u21s

    Could have been a factor in why he switched. Maybe didn't get along with Barraclough that well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Collie D wrote: »
    I’m reminded of the banner a couple of NI fans held up in Lansdowne during that Carling Nations Cup thing or whatever it was called.

    “FAI: Stop stealing our players
    You can keep Darron Gibson though”

    I see he's signed an extension with Salford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    What time we expecting the announcement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Gavin Bazunu going to L1 Rochdale on loan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Gavin Bazunu looking like he is going to go out on loan to Rochdale in League One and also sign a new contract with Man City. Pleasantly surprised by that, I thought he would hang around in their u23 team for at least another season, but a goalkeeper to be playing regularly at 18 years old would be very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Disappointed to see they play in the Swiss Championship equivalent and not the premier. Would have been better to try get a championship club I think

    The one positive side to it is Grasshoppers are owned by the wife of the Wolves owner, they were bought only this year. So there's a strong possibility they'll be strengthened to help gain promotion to the top tier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Gavin Bazunu going to L1 Rochdale on loan.

    Good season there could see him move up in the pecking order to No.2 behind Randolph


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Good season there could see him move up in the pecking order to No.2 behind Randolph

    It's a massive move for him. Rochdale have a few Irish lads at the club, lads that have played in the LOI and you also have Brain Barry Murphy there as manager. Watched highlights of some Rochdale games and seems Murphy tries to play football and likes his teams to pass it out from the back.


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