IAA licensing drones

expectationlost · 13-07-2014 4:56pm #1

Aviation body has issued 22 drone permits Irish Times

The Irish Aviation Authority has issued permits to 22 operators to use drones or remotely piloted aircraft systems (RPAS) in the Republic.
The RPAS sanctioned by the authority are used mainly for aerial survey, filming and photography.
The rapid advance in technology means the cost of civilian drones had dropped to a few hundred euro and can be purchased online. There are now 22 licensed here compared to 14 this time last year.
Aviation regulations governing drones in Ireland mean that operators are restricted to flying no higher than 150m and no farther than 500m from the control station.
A spokesman for the authority said it was reviewing its policy on making public the names of those with permissions to operate the aircraft systems.

FAA in the US said you need to keep in line of sight

The European Aviation Safety Agency is in the process of introducing pan-European legislation to cover the operation of systems with a mass of 150kg or more. Drones below this weight are subject to national legislatio

seems the Irish Times may have this question in relation to the drug delivering drone, wonder did anyone find what brand and type of drone was used?

only mention of drones on IAA sight http://www.versadrones.com/

are there any 150kg + drones use in in ireland?

Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS)
https://www.iaa.ie/unmanned-air-systems

Unmanned Aircraft Systems may need to be registered. https://www.iaa.ie/index.jsp?p=469&n=519

presumably people providing a drone for commercial reasons need to register.

drver1 · 13-07-2014 6:21pm

I'm considering purchasing DJI Phantom 2 Vision plus, Will I need to register it? If so where could I get the application form? Would insurance be compulsory?

expectationlost · 13-07-2014 11:55pm

Versadrones aerial imaging technology
April 5, 2013 ·

Versadrones is now licensed by the Irish Aviation Authority to operate all of our systems commercially in Irish airspace. We are also soon to become one of the first approved training schools in Ireland.

https://www.facebook.com/versadrones/posts/475317132533666

expectationlost · 13-07-2014 11:59pm

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/drone-pilot-denies-claims-he-acted-recklessly-while-filming-cork-video-266609.html Steve Slade of SkyTec Ireland, which secured the country’s first licences to operate unmanned flying drones

Paudie Barry of Baseline Surveys Ltd

http://www.hexicamaerials.com/about/short-bio.html Irish UAV laws, guidelines and advice http://www.hexicamaerials.com/blog/irish-uav-laws.html

http://www.aerialphotographyireland.ie/#!faq/ceft

http://asmireland.ie/services/

http://aerialfilming.ie/full-width/equipment/

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2013/02/23/6943618.htm# Collin Williams Photography, aerial surveyors ASM Ireland, SKYTEC UAS Ireland, Baseline Survey, Precise Construction Instruments, NUI Maynooth and Coastway.

we could form a list

folbotcar · 14-07-2014 12:27pm

drver1 wrote: »

I'm considering purchasing DJI Phantom 2 Vision plus, Will I need to register it? If so where could I get the application form? Would insurance be compulsory?

If you're going to use it commercially you'll need an 'aerial work permit' from the IAA. I don't think you'll need to register it as it fairly lightweight. But check with the IAA.

Also remember there are rules about where and when you can use it.

expectationlost · 14-07-2014 1:26pm

ah here we go does the CAA cover NI then here a list that might include companies who also work in Ireland http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1995/20140515RptUAVcurrent.pdf and vice versa

expectationlost · 15-08-2014 2:22pm

Flying unmanned aerial vehicles – or drones – in public places without a licence is illegal, and yet more and more people are doing so

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/game-of-drones-as-remote-pilots-ignore-the-rules-1.1891523

the IAA says all drones require written permission, which is a more stringent regime than in the US. Even IAA- licensed drones are restricted to flying no higher than 150m and no farther than 500m away from the operator, and cannot use cameras. They have issued just 25 permits this year.

really?

expectationlost · 20-12-2014 10:18am

Operating Drones Safely: Follow the Rules! - Irish Aviation Authority http://shar.es/13RluH

seems they are backing off any claim ( from themselves or the Irish Times) that you need a licence or written persmission because there just too many for that to happen.

Remote Piloted Aircraft Systems

It is important to differentiate RPAS from model aircraft. ICAO and EASA define RPAS as: “Any aircraft and its associated elements, other than a balloon, kite or small aircraft which is intended to be operated with no pilot on board”. Whereas model aircraft are defined as: “Any small aircraft which is being used for the sole purpose of recreational flying.”

https://www.iaa.ie/rpas

why do they distinguish between RPAS and Model Aircraft

surely most drones are used recreationally aswell, I presume the distinction is the Model Aircraft are used just for the purpose of flying tiny planes, has a model aricraft never been used to take pictures?

but then says

When you use your RPAS for recreational purposes, you must follow the same rules that are required for the operation of model aircraft as laid out in Rockets and Small Aircraft Order S.I. 25
of 2000
https://www.iaa.ie/media/DRONESQuestionsandAnswersFinal1.pdf

expectationlost · 28-02-2015 1:46am

RTÉ Interactive Video: Drones in Ireland - The footage and the rules
http://www.rte.ie/news/special-reports/2015/0227/683263-drone-footage-recreational-use/

Captain Niall Cummins of the IAA said you may not fly a drone unless it is in a designated area, usually an area used by model aircraft, or in a wide open space, such as farm land, where you have the landowner's permission.

RTE interview with IAA captain gives impression no drones allowed in parks beaches etc but law says anything <1.5kg is exempt https://www.iaa.ie/index.jsp?p=100&n=107&a=406&pp=253&nn=488&lID=283

Drones and Model Aircraft – Q&A
https://www.iaa.ie/media/DRONESQuestionsandAnswersFinal1.pdf

L1011 · 28-02-2015 4:21am

Wide open space?

http://youtu.be/C8Qo7uvUlzw

expectationlost · 12-07-2015 11:41am

just for completion heres a list of Remote Piloted Aircraft Systems
IAA Aerial Work Permission Holders https://www.iaa.ie/RPAS-Permissions

there was a story in the SBP about Green Aviation UAV who clalm to able to provide the larger fixed wing and heli type drones http://greenaviationuav.com/f-720/

has anyone seen these operate here?

BoatMad · 13-11-2015 7:33pm

in my view the IAA are acting ultra vires, i.e. outside the law

a aircraft weighing under 20kg used recreationally is covered by the Rockets and small aircraft act. This is the ONLY legislation in ireland governing recreational aircraft . That legislation does not require such aircraft to be registered.

Hence the IAA is trying to fudge the issue , in order to convince recreational model quadcopter users to register , thinking they fall outside the model aircraft legislation

Its a shambles

expectationlost · 13-11-2015 8:11pm

BoatMad wrote: »

in my view the IAA are acting ultra vires, i.e. outside the law

a aircraft weighing under 20kg used recreationally is covered by the Rockets and small aircraft act. This is the ONLY legislation in ireland governing recreational aircraft . That legislation does not require such aircraft to be registered.

Hence the IAA is trying to fudge the issue , in order to convince recreational model quadcopter users to register , thinking they fall outside the model aircraft legislation

Its a shambles

referring to this? the Drone register features app detailing permitted flying areas http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/drone-register-features-app-detailing-permitted-flying-areas-1.2422081

only this on IAA the site

DRONE REGISTRATION From the 21st December 2015, all drones over 1kg must be registered with the IAA. Details of how to register will be published on this webpage in December.

https://www.iaa.ie/Remote-Piloted-Aircraft-Systems

presume they change the weight by Statutory Instrument

oh i had no idea they published this 27th October 2015 Proposed Small Unmanned Air craft (Drones) and Rocket Order https://www.iaa.ie/media/SmallUnmannedAircraft%28Drones%29andRocketsOrder,ConsultationDocument1.pdf

BoatMad · 14-11-2015 7:54pm

So this applies to all model aircraft over 1 kg

mcquaim · 18-12-2015 1:47am

I presume the Phantom 2 Vision + is over 1kg?

expectationlost · 18-12-2015 5:21am

mcquaim wrote: »

I presume the Phantom 2 Vision + is over 1kg?

most of those kinda drones are over 1kg, many online shops don't list the weight though

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1217/754164-drones/

Mr James said many of the drones in Ireland will weigh below the 1kg threshold and so will be exempt from the legislation.

rte refers to large drones but the phantom ones are regular size

expectationlost · 18-12-2015 10:05pm

interestingly the FAA drone database starts this week will be public! (soon) http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2015/12/18/faa-finally-admits-names-and-home-addresses-in-drone-registry-will-be-publicly-available/ but that's America for you, so many records are public over there, rules > https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2015/12/15/2015-31647/privacy-act-of-1974-department-of-transportation-federal-aviation-administration-dotfaa-801-aircraft

nothing to suggest same here but I wonder how they'll operate their lost and found practically https://www.iaa.ie/general-aviation/drones/lost-a-drone-form

IAA licensing drones

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