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Will these wheels fit my car?

colm_mcm · 2005-12-21 00:27:02

Wheel fitments vary massively between manufacturers and models. If you want to fit different wheels to your car it is important to understand some basic points. Hub size or Centre bore This is a measurement of the hub size on the car. This generally needs to match or be smaller than the size of the centre bore (the hole in…

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Wheel fitments vary massively between manufacturers and models. If you want to fit different wheels to your car it is important to understand some basic points.

Hub size or Centre bore
This is a measurement of the hub size on the car.

This generally needs to match or be smaller than the size of the centre bore (the hole in the middle) of the wheels you plan to fit. If the centre bore of the wheel is bigger than the hub you will get vibrations and put the wheel bolts under undue stress.

You can get around this by fitting spigot rings to your new wheels. These are metal or plastic rings with an inner radius to match your hubs and an outer radius to match your wheels.

It is possible to get specialist hub adaptors to fit wheels with a smaller centre bore onto a larger hub, but the cost of these can be significant.

Pitch circle diameter (PCD)
PCD is a measurement of how close or far apart your wheel's bolt holes are. It is measured like this:

Common stud patterns are 4*100 or 5*114.3, where the 4 or 5 denotes the number of studs and 100/114.3 denotes the PCD.
Again it is possible to get adaptors to change the PCD,

A number of aftermarket multi fitment wheels will have 2 or 3 different PCDs on the one wheel.

Offset
Offset is a measurement between the centre of the wheels width and the hub mounting surface

For example, a Toyota Aygo should be fitted with wheels that have an offset between 35mm and 45mm. Fitting wheels with a different offset will affect the handling characteristics of the car.
You can fit spacers push the wheels out and effectively change the offset of the wheels.

Click here for a database of wheel fitments by model

Related to this:
Will these tyres fit my car?

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#2 08-05-2014 4:29pm
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Does anyone know if a set of alloys from a VW Passat (18" cc wheels, the sirocco type to be specific) will fit onto an Opel Insignia. Or any other alloys from different make/models for that matter. Obviously they have the same amount of studs (5) but is there any other reasons that wheels from one car cant fit on another make. If you look at the replicas online they reckon they can fit on 'most cars' so why shouldnt the specifc makes wheels fit also?

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#3 08-05-2014 6:13pm
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Insignia

PCD 5x120
Centre bore 67.1
Offset 41
Mounting. Nut/Lug 14 x 1,50

Passat

PCD 5x112
Centre bore 57.1
Offset 47
Mounting. Bolt 14 x 1,50

Not a hope. Complelely different.

Saab 95 current (not the older) model 2011 onwards wheels will fit. But nobody bought them.
Chevy Camaro wheels fit too, but again - finding them would be the thing.

Astra wheels won't fit, no other opel uses this fitment.

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#4 08-05-2014 10:33pm
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Great information. Nice one. Cheers.

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#5 15-01-2015 5:48pm
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Hi, will 2004 alloys fit a 2002 Colt? I can get a set of nice clean 16" alloys and wheels from a current model Colt and I'd like to put them on a 2002 Colt.
Also want to lower the car and am looking for parts to do same.

thanks in advance.

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#6 15-01-2015 6:28pm
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Nope. Stud pattern is different.

4*100 is a very popular pcd size, and your hub size is also common to many cars.

http://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Mitsubishi/Colt%20(1992%20-%202004)/

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#7 15-01-2015 6:49pm
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Colm
Thanks for the info.

Cheers

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#8 17-05-2015 7:48pm
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Hey guys I'm looking to upgrade my alloys on my Mazda 6 and have my eye of alloys that came off an Evo 7, the lug pattern is the same, 5x114.3, but the offset of each set of wheels is different, 30 for the Evo Alloys, and 42-50 for the Mazda standard.

Does this pose a risk I put Evo alloys on the Mazda? Or just the alloys will stick out a bit more from the hubs? Any help appreciated...

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#9 17-05-2015 8:56pm
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This doesn't look too encouraging
http://forum.mazda6club.com/wheels-tires/227380-evo-x-wheels-speed-6-a.html

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#10 17-05-2015 9:23pm
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colm_mcm wrote: »

This doesn't look too encouraging
http://forum.mazda6club.com/wheels-tires/227380-evo-x-wheels-speed-6-a.html

Thanks for the Colm, looks my dreams of Evo alloys are dashed! Shame...

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#11 17-05-2015 10:47pm
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Excellent stuff!

Will 18" bmw f10 wheels fit on a bmw e60?

What's the view on spacers?

What's the general view on fitting wheels that don't belong to the model of car? Can't decide myself.

18" mv2 wheels need a refurb, can get excellent condition (second hand) f10 m sport wheels for similar price to refurb....

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#12 09-01-2018 9:51pm
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Very helpful link and post, Thanks Colm

My rx8 died last November and I just had refurbished dark grey 18" original alloys put on her since last Jan - typical! If I decide to not rebuild the engine, would those alloys fit on a 2011 Mitsubishi Outlander? I was kind of looking for 18x8j alloys for her and then came across this post when I decided to check the comparison of both vehicles, hoping to use 235mm wide tyres - maby Goodyear Gripmax

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#13 18-02-2018 11:17am
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Hi folks, not sure if I'm posting in the right place, but this thread seemed appropriate.

My neighbour gave me a set of BMW M-Sport rims, but I just want to check/confirm what width tyres I'd need to get for them. I plan on buying the tyres myself online, before getting the wheels refurbished and new tyres installed.

I drive an e90 320d M-Sport with 17inch wheels already on it.
Front are 225/45R17
Rear are 255/40R17

Looking at the attached photo's of the 'new' rims, Would I be correct in thinking that their width is only 200mm? (measuring inside to inside?)

If thats the case (200mm), should I be getting 200/45R17 for the front & 200/40R17 for the rear? or would I still go for the 225 front & 255 rear?

How much wider can the tyre be above the rim width? I don't want to compromise safety in any way.

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#14 18-02-2018 11:55am
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AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Hi folks, not sure if I'm posting in the right place, but this thread seemed appropriate.

My neighbour gave me a set of BMW M-Sport rims, but I just want to check/confirm what width tyres I'd need to get for them. I plan on buying the tyres myself online, before getting the wheels refurbished and new tyres installed.

I drive an e90 320d M-Sport with 17inch wheels already on it.
Front are 225/45R17
Rear are 255/40R17

Looking at the attached photo's of the 'new' rims, Would I be correct in thinking that their width is only 200mm? (measuring inside to inside?)

If thats the case (200mm), should I be getting 200/45R17 for the front & 200/40R17 for the rear? or would I still go for the 225 front & 255 rear?

How much wider can the tyre be above the rim width? I don't want to compromise safety in any way.

Are all 4 wheels the same width?
The 225 you mentioned is the tyre with, not rim width.
You have measured an 8" wide rim there, per the second pic.

225 will mount no problem up front on an 8" rim, what width are the rear wheels?

Are the new wheels 17" too?

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#15 18-02-2018 11:57am
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I thought you might might be putting a set of RS8 wheels on the Civic Colm..:D

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#16 18-02-2018 1:11pm
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Neilw wrote: »

Are all 4 wheels the same width?
The 225 you mentioned is the tyre with, not rim width.
You have measured an 8" wide rim there, per the second pic.

225 will mount no problem up front on an 8" rim, what width are the rear wheels?

Are the new wheels 17" too?

All 4 new wheels are indeed 8 inch. I don't know the width of the currently installed wheels, but in terms of diameter, the new ones are also 17 inch.

I found a size guide that says for 8 inch width wheels, you need tyres with a width of 215 to 245 (225 being the ideal size for an 8 inch rim, 245 being the max size)

So perhaps I should play it safe and get 225 for the front, and only 245 for the rear (current rears are 255)

(both sets of wheels are M-Sport)

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#17 18-02-2018 1:48pm
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Thread origins back 13 years, that must be a record.

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#18 18-02-2018 2:24pm
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There’s a link to the thread on the FAQ directory

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#19 18-02-2018 2:25pm
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colm_mcm wrote: »

There’s a link to the thread on the FAQ directory

That’s how I found it!

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#20 18-02-2018 2:29pm
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Jesus, somebody actually used it

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#21 18-02-2018 3:01pm
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AndyBoBandy wrote: »

All 4 new wheels are indeed 8 inch. I don't know the width of the currently installed wheels, but in terms of diameter, the new ones are also 17 inch.

I found a size guide that says for 8 inch width wheels, you need tyres with a width of 215 to 245 (225 being the ideal size for an 8 inch rim, 245 being the max size)

So perhaps I should play it safe and get 225 for the front, and only 245 for the rear (current rears are 255)

(both sets of wheels are M-Sport)

Your current wheels will be staggered (Rears are wider) Possibly 7.5" front and 8.5" rear.

The new wheels are a square set, So 225/45 all round should be correct. You'll also need to check offsets as some 5 series wheels are lower and will sit wide on a 3 series.

New wheels are also replicas.

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#22 18-02-2018 3:20pm
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Ross94 wrote: »

Your current wheels will be staggered (Rears are wider) Possibly 7.5" front and 8.5" rear.

The new wheels are a square set, So 225/45 all round should be correct. You'll also need to check offsets as some 5 series wheels are lower and will sit wide on a 3 series.

New wheels are also replicas.

Should I not still go for the 45 profile front & 40 profile rear as per what the car originally shipped with?

It is stamped ‘Not Original’ inside them. So good spot re them being replicas.

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#23 18-02-2018 3:24pm
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AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Should I not still go for the 45 profile front & 40 profile rear as per what the car originally shipped with?

It is stamped ‘Not Original’ inside them. So good spot re them being replicas.

Not really, E90 could be had with staggered wheels and same size all round so wouldn't effect it either way.

You could go 225/45 & 245/40 of you really wanted to but id personally go 225/45 all round.

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#24 18-02-2018 3:31pm
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The reason you have two different profiles now is because of the width of the rear tyre being bigger. The profile value is a percentage of the width. Your profile equates to 255*0.40 and 225*0.45 which is roughly the same value so the car sits level from front to back.
If all 4 tyres are to be the same width then you should have the same profile front and rear.

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#25 18-02-2018 3:39pm
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Cheers for all the info lads, will also be slightly cheaper to go 225 all round! Was thinking of going for Goodyear eagle F1’s and a space saver in the boot (been running on Run Flats since I bought it over 6 years ago)

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#26 18-02-2018 3:44pm
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225/45 is a cheap size too.

Are these new wheels better than what you have now though?

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#27 18-02-2018 3:50pm
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colm_mcm wrote: »

225/45 is a cheap size too.

Are these new wheels better than what you have now though?

My own ones are fairly dinged up, so I was thinking of getting both sets reconditioned, and perhaps running a set of winter tyres on one of the sets!!

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#28 18-02-2018 4:01pm
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Here are my own ones vs the 4 I was given.

My originals tyres will need replacing soon enough anyway, so it would be cheaper if I'm buying 4x 225's as opposed to 2x 225's & 2x 255's

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#29 18-02-2018 5:50pm
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AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Here are my own ones vs the 4 I was given.

My originals tyres will need replacing soon enough anyway, so it would be cheaper if I'm buying 4x 225's as opposed to 2x 225's & 2x 255's

If it's were my car I would stick with your original wheels and have them refurbished.
Are the wheels on your car now original BMW wheels?

Another reason to keep them if they are.
Replica wheels are usually heavier and cheaper quality.

The same width wheels all round won't look as good as the staggered set on it now, you'll also have less rear grip with narrower tyres on the rear.

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#30 18-02-2018 7:13pm
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My plan was always to get the originals I have refurbished, so I guess I’ll still go with that plan (along with getting all the dings & scratches on the car fixed).

Perhaps I’ll get a set of winter tyres for the new set, but even that would probably hardly be worth it living in Ireland (Dublin).

I’d also like to have a set of non run flats to try from time to time, so again, that could be an option with the new wheels.

There’s probably very little resale value in the replicas?

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#31 23-05-2018 11:36am
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Hi
Will 7j h16 fit a 03 passat 5 x 112?
Thank you

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