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vickers209 · 02-11-2014 11:27pm

Wicklow Viaduct Today

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The_Wanderer · 03-11-2014 10:44pm

Evening all,

A bonus update this evening with pictures from July 2005.

- July 2005 features pictures from around the Network including the delivery of 29021 at North Wall to 071's & 141's on Cork - Tralee services.

- 121 Class Farewell Tour. The farewell tour operated on Saturday 16th July 2005 from Connolly to Sligo and back again.

Click www.thewandererphotos.com to view. Links to the galleries may be found in "Latest Gallery updates and News" on the home page.

TheBandicoot · 04-11-2014 1:07pm

Those 121 cabs have always looked mighty uncomfortable to me.

jca · 04-11-2014 4:42pm

TheBandicoot wrote: »

Those 121 cabs have always looked mighty uncomfortable to me.

They're the very same as the other GM's. Rough and ready but a huge improvement on the metrovicks which were horrible, the bouncy springing didn't help one bit.

TheBandicoot · 04-11-2014 4:45pm

It's the offset controls - everything is on a column to the drivers left/right like an american loco, as opposed to the 'desk' design in the later Irish GMs. Obviously have no first hand experience, but when I've seen pictures it looks cramped and awkward to reach all the controls.

metrovick001 · 04-11-2014 7:17pm

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211 and a hauled PPull on 1745 Heuston-Westport at Sallins 22-Sept-07[

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211 and a hauled PPull on 1745 Heuston-Westport at Sallins 22-Sept-07 by

metrovick, on Flickr

04-11-2014 7:36pm

Was a hauled push-pull a set of 6300s with an EGV instead of a 6100?

metrovick001 · 04-11-2014 7:37pm

Yes indeed. Most likely a fault with the DVT

Jamie2k9 · 04-11-2014 7:54pm

metrovick001 wrote: »

Yes indeed. Most likely a fault with the DVT

Not sure if it was a faut or a DVT was just withdrawn from service possibly because of a fault. The EVG was on at least one of the sets for a long time until they were all withdrawn.

The_Wanderer · 04-11-2014 11:44pm

A hauled push pull was "traditionally" a push/pull set in service with a non push/pull locomotive. A guard was required in this case.

During the loco hauled era a rake of carriages was taken out of service on Sunday night and sent to the wagon shop at Inchicore for "D Exam". They returned to Heuston on Thursday evening for a return to service on Friday morning (well at least you hoped so. In fairness they usually did).

It would go in rotation, all the MK3 sets would be done and then they would do the MK2 sets before starting on the MK3's again. So when the MK3's were being done the following happened.

- MK3 set withdrawn from the Westport Route, this set becoming the D Exam set. For a long while a MK2AB or MK2D set would cover but these weren't seen as very suitable due to the lower speed and passenger accommodation being inferior to a MK3.

So MK3's Push Pull control cars 6104 and 6105 were cleared to operate at 90mph in hauled PP mode only between Heuston and Westport only subject to all temporary and permanent speed restrictions.

Also due to their age the Control Cars were becoming problematic. If you lost a control car due to a fault and had no spare then the whole set was gone. It did happen! Faced with this and a surplus of MK3 vans (11 out of 15 required) a clever solution was devised to modify three vans to operate with push pull carriages in hauled mode in place of a Control Car. From memory 7602 7608 7613 were done.

This version of the hauled push pull then came common place on the Westport Route when the MK3 D Exam program was in progress. Café Car 6402 also usually operated with the set and it can be seen in Metrovicks picture as the last vehicle in the formation. On a Thursday night you would usually shunt the set and hold the van at Heuston and replace it with a control car for weekend services. Usually on the Waterford Route, keeping 6402 on its intended patch.

A rather long answer for a short question but there is a lot of history behind the "HP/P" sets

The Wanderer.

The_Wanderer · 04-11-2014 11:45pm

Evening all,

Some more "heritage" images from 2005, August 2005 to be precise.

Includes:

- Waterford.
- Kilkenny.
- Carlow.
- The first run of a MKIV set on the mainline from Inchicore to Limerick Jct.
- 29021 and MKIV Set 4001 on trials.

Click http://smu.gs/10rROgh to view.

Victor · 05-11-2014 12:04am

Vampires on a train -

no reflections

The_Wanderer wrote: »

A hauled push pull was "traditionally" a push/pull set in service with a non push/pull locomotive. A guard was required in this case.

During the loco hauled era a rake of carriages was taken out of service on Sunday night and sent to the wagon shop at Inchicore for "D Exam". They returned to Heuston on Thursday evening for a return to service on Friday morning (well at least you hoped so. In fairness they usually did).

It would go in rotation, all the MK3 sets would be done and then they would do the MK2 sets before starting on the MK3's again. So when the MK3's were being done the following happened.

- MK3 set withdrawn from the Westport Route, this set becoming the D Exam set. For a long while a MK2AB or MK2D set would cover but these weren't seen as very suitable due to the lower speed and passenger accommodation being inferior to a MK3.

So MK3's Push Pull control cars 6104 and 6105 were cleared to operate at 90mph in hauled PP mode only between Heuston and Westport only subject to all temporary and permanent speed restrictions.

Also due to their age the Control Cars were becoming problematic. If you lost a control car due to a fault and had no spare then the whole set was gone. It did happen! Faced with this and a surplus of MK3 vans (11 out of 15 required) a clever solution was devised to modify three vans to operate with push pull carriages in hauled mode in place of a Control Car. From memory 7602 7608 7613 were done.

This version of the hauled push pull then came common place on the Westport Route when the MK3 D Exam program was in progress. Café Car 6402 also usually operated with the set and it can be seen in Metrovicks picture as the last vehicle in the formation. On a Thursday night you would usually shunt the set and hold the van at Heuston and replace it with a control car for weekend services. Usually on the Waterford Route, keeping 6402 on its intended patch.

A rather long answer for a short question but there is a lot of history behind the "HP/P" sets

The Wanderer.

As someone who isn't that big into the mechanics of trains, what nuance am I missing here? What is hauled PP mode as opposed to ordinary PP mode?

The_Wanderer · 05-11-2014 12:21am

Victor wrote: »

Vampires on a train -
no reflections
As someone who isn't that big into the mechanics of trains, what nuance am I missing here? What is hauled PP mode as opposed to ordinary PP mode?

Photo shoot done on 22014 at Inchicore so backround added in no doubt. The filmed run (as seen in that TV ad) was on 22003.

Push / Pull Train. Locomotive remains at one end of the train and there is a "control car" at the other end of the train which the driver can control the locomotive from.

Hauled Push/Pull. Either the control car is defective or the locomotive is not equipped for PP working. The train operates as a conventional locomotive hauled train and the locomotive will always need to be at the head of the train. This was know as HPP or Hauled Push/Pull to signify that fact.

The Wanderer.

The_Wanderer · 07-11-2014 12:14am

Evening all,

A few photos from Heuston earlier tonight.
Click http://smu.gs/1zz07pG

angelIRL · 09-11-2014 8:16pm

Evening all,

Some photos taken of the RPSI Web Summit charter from Dublin Connolly to Midleton: https://flickr.com/photos/35835471@N00/sets/72157648771648210

Finbarr.

Rashers72 · 09-11-2014 10:59pm

Just curious why they did not use one of the spare Mark 4 sets? Web summit, wifi, technology and all that...

09-11-2014 11:02pm

Rashers72 wrote: »

Just curious why they did not use one of the spare Mark 4 sets? Web summit, wifi, technology and all that...

The Mark 4s probably aren't cleared to run to Midleton.

end of the road · 09-11-2014 11:06pm

and they deserve the treat of traveling in a vintage train, all be it pulled by a not so vintage loco, even if they don't necessarily appreciate it.

09-11-2014 11:14pm

end of the road wrote: »

and they deserve the treat of traveling in a vintage train, all be it pulled by a not so vintage loco, even if they don't necessarily appreciate it.

Yeah, a 201 up front wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Victor · 09-11-2014 11:44pm

Rashers72 wrote: »

Just curious why they did not use one of the spare Mark 4 sets? Web summit, wifi, technology and all that...

Sod all plug sockets.

There is also the matter of platforms, Midleton can only take 4 carriage trains.

The_Wanderer · 10-11-2014 12:46am

Victor wrote: »

Sod all plug sockets.

There is also the matter of platforms, Midleton can only take 4 carriage trains.

Plus the small matter of they hired the train from the RPSI, not IE.

From the grapvine (I was away in Europe) the train had plug sockets and wifi for the charter.

The Wanderer.

end of the road · 10-11-2014 12:53am

The_Wanderer wrote: »

From the grapvine (I was away in Europe) the train had plug sockets and wifi for the charter.

how did they manage that?

Victor · 10-11-2014 1:58am

end of the road wrote: »

how did they manage that?

Stolen from the RDS.

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flyingsnail · 10-11-2014 10:04am

end of the road wrote: »

how did they manage that?

The web summit people brought portable wifi thingamabobs and lots of dongles.

GM228 · 10-11-2014 10:51am

flyingsnail wrote: »

The web summit people brought portable wifi thingamabobs and lots of dongles.

And despite going through many "geographical limitations" the WIFI probably still worked better than that at the RDS!

GM228

The_Wanderer · 14-11-2014 8:52pm

Evening folks,

Last weekend I was in Munich with a group of friends.

I did manage to get out and explore some of the local railway system. Click http://smu.gs/1uutmXA to view.

Enjoy!
The Wanderer.

The_Wanderer · 15-11-2014 7:05pm

Evening folks,

Some images from around the Kildare Commuter stations over the past week.
Click http://smu.gs/1wESNmc

The Wanderer.

The_Wanderer · 16-11-2014 11:22pm

Evening all,

A weekend trip to Ennis, outward via Galway and return via Limerick. Also some night time images from Portarlington and Monasterevin. Click http://smu.gs/1y97O21 to view.

The Wanderer.

angelIRL · 17-11-2014 10:28am

Morning all,

some photos taken yesterday: https://www.flickr.com/photos/finnyus

Includes:
- Stabled MK4 sets at Mallow due to engineering works
- InterCity trains through Kildare

The Curragh by finnyus, on Flickr

Finbarr

Itssoeasy · 17-11-2014 5:04pm

Apologies for the picture quality just took this in cork.

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