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08-02-2010, 18:58   #1
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shipping pet to north america

anyone have experience shipping their pet from Ireland to North America?
If so, what freight forwarder did you use? Was it very expensive?

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08-02-2010, 19:07   #2
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anyone have experience shipping their pet from Ireland to North America?
If so, what freight forwarder did you use? Was it very expensive?

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It was over 10 years ago so apologies if i'm fuzzy...

I seem to remember it cost about as much as a human ticket. It was pretty easy though and we did it though the airline.

Get a box/case thats got plenty of space and just carry fluffy with you and they'll take her at the checkin.

The airline will have advice on water/food etc. As far as I remember sedatives arent reccomended on flights over7 hours?

You'll also need various vetinary documents and the airline can let you know about those.
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We had to leave our cats behind as the vet said they were too old for such a long move, but before that decision was made, we looked at the airlines, like the above poster. It is quite expensive and many airlines have restrctions, such as not flying pets in the high summer (or winter if you fly to Alaska) due to extremes of temperature. You also need to pre-book as they usually only take 2-3 animals per flight.

If it is a small cat or dog, you may be allowed to take it into the cabin on any internal US flight in an approved carrier which fits under the seat in front of you, but it depends on the airline and aicraft.
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I researched this to send a pet to Australia last year, depending on US animal control, you might have to get some shots for your pet, you will also need a pet passport and maybe even have your pet in quarantine for several days which you have to pay for too. You should consult your vet, they usually know a lot about it. Also have a look at the department of agriculture online, they give specifics for countries too! Good luck!
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Thanks for all the replies.
I've looked into the documentation required and recently had the cat vaccinated (rabies) and microchipped. Just waiting on the passport.

When at the vet's, I was told that the cat would require a final checkup within 7 days of departure and get a cert saying cat was good to go.

It seems to be much easier importing a cat from a country considered rabies free.

The issue I seem to be having now is that most airlines will no longer deal directly with customers shipping live animals. I've been told by numerous airlines that animals are shipped via cargo shipping, and they only deal with 'freight forwarders' when shipping animals.

I had looked up some prices for transporting pets between Canada and America on major airline sites to get rough idea of what they were charging for similar flight durations. Was doubling their listed prices as a rough idea. Ooops

I've only received 1 quote so far but was shocked at the prices and the break down of the prices. Much more than getting a human across the atlantic.

Wondering if anyone can recommend a freight forwarder if they have used one before for shipping an animal?
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Finding a "frieght forwarder" who specialises in pets? hmmm.

When you import a pet to Ireland they have to go into quarentine dont they? You could phone the quarentine place and see if they'd give you a list of forwarders?
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anyone have experience shipping their pet from Ireland to North America?
North America represents the 3 countries of Canada, USA, and Mexico. I would assume that you are not referring to Mexico from your post. So are you shipping to Canada or USA?

If USA, please be advised that the individual states may have different regulations regarding pets. This US Dept of Agriculture site has links to specific state regulations, which also mentions cats.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_exp...s_states.shtml
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I'm in the middle of the same situation right now, we don't have a departure date confirmed because we're still waiting on visas and such. The good news is that because ireland is considered a rabies free country, there is no quarantine when bringing a pet to the US. We will be flying with aer-lingus and their customer service has quoted us at €160 to bring an animal as checked luggage, much cheaper than the professional shipping companies, that's a flight from Dublin to Chicago. We will be moving to southern indiana which has led to the only hinderence so far, trans-atlantic flights are ok because they have climate controlled cargo bays, but the domestic flights in the US don't allow animals in the summer because the cargo bays can reach temperatures in excess of 40 degrees. We're still going to fly to chicago and rent a car, drive to southern indiana (5-6 hour drive) and leave the car with the rental companies depot in the nearby Cincinnati airport. Bit of extra hassel but it turns out that renting the car for the day costs us less than the connecting flights would have, and i don't even want to think about what it would have cost to have the dog transported from chicago down.

In terms of the medical checks, it varies from state to state and you'll need to satisfy the criteria for whatever state you are settling in. A quick email to the state vet will tell you what the criteria is for your state. the list of state vets can be found at http://www.usaha.org/StateAnimalHealthOfficials.pdf

Generally it's a current rabies shot and a certificate of health issued by a vet in the weeks prior to traveling.
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I got a few quotes and they were 650 euro - 1000 euro for a small cat from Ireland to Canada.
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I've been looking into bringing my cat and dog to California and have contacted most airlines.
The only two that carry pets as checked baggage without going through a company are AA and Aerlingus.

Aerlingus only go as far as the east coast though. So if you are flying into NY, Boston, Orlando or Chicago you're ok. Their partner airline JetBlue don't accept pets so if you book a flight to somewhere else with Aerlingus you'll have to make plans for your pet for the stopover airport.
The cost is €160 per crate each way.

AA will take pets as checked baggage as well. I rang them and told them I was going to LAX from Dublin and they said the only restriction is the temperature. If it's above 29.5 degree C. then they won't let the pet fly. Their is a cold restriction too.
The cost is $150 per crate each way.

I'm obviously going with AA as they suit my needs. They seem to be much cheaper too.
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As in Post #2, it was over 10 years ago but we moved with a cat and dog to CA. I think we went though Gatwick or Heathrow (most likely heathrow), and I'm pretty sure the flight was with BA. Certainly it was direct non-stop to SF.
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i'm immigrating this month and i'm bringing my dog with aer lingus to chicago. It costs €160 to bring a dog on a flight from dublin to the US (east coast airports only)

but note before you commit to that, it is not €160 to bring the dog back, they've told me that if i'm ever travelling back with aer lingus it could cost upwards of €1000, i have no intention of moving back any time soon so i didn't question their reasons for such a difference.
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i'm immigrating this month and i'm bringing my dog with aer lingus to chicago. It costs €160 to bring a dog on a flight from dublin to the US (east coast airports only)

but note before you commit to that, it is not €160 to bring the dog back, they've told me that if i'm ever travelling back with aer lingus it could cost upwards of €1000, i have no intention of moving back any time soon so i didn't question their reasons for such a difference.
There's rabies in the US so you can bring whatever animal you like it and it just needs an injection.

But coming into ireland is very different because as there's no rabies there's no vaccinations which means if it ever got in there'd be chaos presumably which means little fluffy has to be put in quarentine for six weeks I think(?), to make sure he isnt infected. Thats 6 weeks in a Gov quarentined kennel at E30 a day? Or more?

Could that explain the diff in price?
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that's what i assumed caused the jump in price.....if it only costs them €160 to transport the dog to the states they'd have a pretty tough time justifying a €1000 charge to come back if it didn't include the kennel fee for the quarantine.
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For the benefit of all interested in this topic, I've decided to post my experience of bringing our pet dog to the US. Now that we've actually made it, I'm much more capable of advising.

We flew from Dublin to Chicago with Aer Lingus. It's by far the cheapest option we could find, only costing €160 to bring the dog as excess baggage (the customer service supervisor that was manning the desk where we had to pay actually only charged us €100). You need to have your flight booked before you can book the pet, you can't book the pet more than 14 days in advance of the flight. When you do call to book the pet, you need to call the reservations with the following details;
  1. Breed of dog
  2. Age of dog
  3. Sex of dog
  4. Length, width and height of the crate.
  5. Weight of the crate, including the dog.
The reservations will call the cargo department and confirm the booking and give you a separate cargo reservation number.

Prior to flying, we needed to get her microchipped and get the pet passport (it's free and the easiest way to keep the dogs vaccinations documented.) We also got her rabies shot. You will need to make a couple of trips to the vet. The rabies shot needs to be administered at least 30 days before travel, and no more than 1 year. The vet will verify the expiration date of the rabies shot in the passport. (This is accepted as your certificate of rabies vaccination in the US). Most airlines have their own set of requirements for taking a dog, for Aer Lingus we needed the pet passport showing a valid rabies shot and a certificate of fitness to travel within 7 days of traveling, which is also listed in the pet passport by your vet.

When you reach the US, you need to meet two sets of requirements those set by the CDC (Centre for disease control), and those set by the state where you will settle. The easiest way to get up to date state requirements is to contact the state vet for the state you will settle in, the list of state vets can be found here => http://www.usaha.org/StateAnimalHealthOfficials.pdf

Currently to meet the CDC requirements you need to;
  1. Have a certificate of current rabies vaccination (You EU Pet passport is accepted)
  2. The dog must be clear of any signs of disease or illness when inspected at the point of entry.
  3. NO HEALTH CERTIFICATE IS REQUIRED BY THE CDC
The requirements that we needed to meet for Indiana are;
  1. Have a certificate of current rabies vaccination (You EU Pet passport is accepted)
  2. The dog must be clear of any signs of disease or illness when inspected at the point of entry.
  3. A health certificate issued within 30 days of entry to the US. (To although we had the fitness to travel page filled out on the pet passport, we asked our vet to print out a separate certificate of good health for this, he had no problem doing this.
From looking over the various state requirements, they all tend to be generally the same.

Those are the requirements that we had to meet. Annoyingly, having collected all of the documents, not a single person either from Aer Lingus or US customs asked for them. When we told the US customs officer in chicago that we had a dog, she asked where she was, we pointed at the crate, the officer glanced in the door and said "she's fine, go ahead".

We were a little nervous about how long she'd be in the cargo hold, especially seeing as the flight was delayed but Aer Lingus won't load a dog until the plane is ready for departure and they do take the dog out to walk a little before loading, and they top up her water. In chicago, the dog was at the excess baggage claim before any of the other baggage was out.

If anybody has any questions feel free to ask!
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