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08-06-2007, 13:46   #1
 
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Man mocked youtube Garda has form of autism

This is an article about a man with autism I saw in the Daily Mail...I'm just wondering what people think about it, the article should be on the Daily Mail website....

The article is about a man who suffers from asbergers syndrome and is apparently mocked by a garda, all recorded on a video clip, which was later put on youtube. The man, Mr. Campbell, has been contacting the garda many times reporting boy racers, who he claimed were making disturbances outside his house. Mr Campbell has had many different court cases for making hoax calls and verbal assault incidents....

The actual video clip shows Mr Campbell getting angry because the Garda in question refused to call Mr Campbell by his first name and then laughing...

Im just wondering, what people think about it all....
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I have direct experience of Asperger's Syndrome, having a member of the family with it; I'm quite shocked that no-one defended this man when he was taken to court over calling the guards re. boyracers who apparently didn't exist; people with the syndrome can pick up sounds at a great distance, and this can cause them a lot of suffering; so, the motor sounds may not have been in the next street as he thought; or he could have been having auditory disturbance, also common with autism, which caused him to think he was hearing boy racers; whatever, I don't know why they would conclude he was making hoax calls, and I'm surprised no-one defended him on those points.
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Well I have a cousin with Aspergers syndrome and he does behave very oddly at times. Aspergers tend to fixate on subjects. My cousin is into film, ask him anything...even about some obscure bollywood film from the early 1900's and he'll tell you who directed it, who starred in it, what other films they did, that their grandson now works as an animator for TheSimpsons etc.

It appears that if this Brendan Campbell does have Aspergers, he may have fixated upon the law/gardaí etc. Before my cousin had intensive behavioural therapy he had severe problems with basically letting his mouth get him into trouble He also used to refuse to answer to his name, instead only answering when he was called "Dr. Manlington" Perhaps Brendan Campbell responds only to the name Brendan and sees his father and not him as Mr. Campbell.

A few people in other threads in this forum are claiming it may be fake because the voice is so repetitive and monotone in nature. To be honest, when I was first listening to it I thought about my cousin and his Aspergers Syndrome. I'm not saying that the tape is not a fake but my first thoughts were not of a fake.

It's a disgrace to be honest. If the Gardaí are well used to him calling, they will be aware of whether or not he has Aspergers. If he does have Aspergers, they would know and if that's the case then they should be sacked. To deliberately goad someone who through no fault of their own behaves differently to the "norm" in society is wrong. They wouldnn't dream of teasing a Downs syndrome man like that and would get the sack for it so the same should happen here.

EDIT: mareid marie I just saw your post! I can second the auditory distraction. My cousin, who is now 21 can't stand pubs or clubs that play music. It drives him batty! It appears as though he senses sound differently to others, although I don't know anything much about that aspect.

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One question:

Did the Garda in question know that this man was Autistic, or was he just regarded as the local loony?
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One question:

Did the Garda in question know that this man was Autistic, or was he just regarded as the local loony?
Well if he really has been charged and in court on occassion then the gardaí would know he has Aspergers as any defence solicitor would know that that was a good starting point for the defence. The DPP would also have been aware.

As for that particular Garda, who can say for sure but I can imagine that the Sargeant at least would have informed him of local "personalities" and what to expect.
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And I have a problem with the expression 'local looney' too; there are all kinds of mental problems, and a little more understanding from those of us lucky enough to be considered stronger in intellect would be a boon. Indeed, while autism seems to be congenital or to begin in early childhood, many of us may yet need understanding for similar conditions, caused by, eg. strokes, accidents, or neurological illness - who knows when one of us is going to become a victim of something like that; I recall a lovely young guy who was injured at rugby, when he was much recovered but sadly brain damaged, he came back to college and stopped a lecture to ask what the lecturer had said a moment ago, and I remember about two hundred people laughing and making noises when the lecturer told him off - the mob thing, I think they call it. As we left the lecture he came over, leaned his head on my shoulder and cried. That's not something you forget easily. And please don't say it, I know, I'm Matronising again...
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I think Séamus was asking if that is how he is regarded, he wasn't making a judgement call or saying "that would be alright then if the garda thought he was just the local looney". He's trying to clarify how aware of the situation the Garda was.
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EDIT: mareid marie I just saw your post! I can second the auditory distraction. My cousin, who is now 21 can't stand pubs or clubs that play music. It drives him batty! It appears as though he senses sound differently to others, although I don't know anything much about that aspect.
Sensory Peculiarities / Sensory Integration Dysfunction it the term for it.

http://movingmountainsforkids.com/si.asp
http://www.aitinstitute.org/berard_a...earing_spd.php

IT is common for those with aspergers to have this but that does not mean a person has to have aspergers or be on the austic spectrum to suffer from this.
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Having mental problems doesn't justify making stuff up. I know Kingscourt well; this guy spends his time looking for people who might be committing driving offences or whatever, and if nothing happens he makes it up and reports it. He makes about 100 calls a day wasting gaurd's time. Eventually, patience is gonna run out. At least he didn't get angry. What did you expect to happen: the gaurd to take him seriously? The sargeant would not need to inform the gaurd of local personalities; trust me the gaurd knows him well; which is more the reason he wouldn't take him seriously.

On principle, the gaurd shouldn't have done what he did, but who cares it was funny, and I certainly don't feel sorry for Brendan Campbell. I don't know if the gaurd knew he had asperger's syndrome, but he certainly knew he was crazy; and being rung constanly rung over and over again by the same person would wear anyone's patience. At least he didn't tell him to **** off. I'm not saying the gaurd didn't make a mistake, but I don't think anyone with a sense of humour could resist winding him up after that many phone calls.

Thankfully, nothing should happen the gaurd. Kingscourt is a small town where everyone knows everybody, the gaurd in question is very popular, whereas Campbell is known to be crazy, a local looney with a nasty streak.

It's definitely not a hoax

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What did you expect to happen: the gaurd to take him seriously? The sargeant would not need to inform the gaurd of local personalities; trust me the gaurd knows him well; which is more the reason he wouldn't take him seriously.
I expect that the guard would have treated him with respect and simply thanked him for his call and hung up and to keep doing so every time he called. I suppose you think it's okay then to have all people with mental and behavioural difficulties rolled out and abused for your amusement?

Why not take the old and senile into our town centres and point and laugh at them? Or take someone with Parkinsons disease and ask them are they alright because they are "looking a bit shaky". Oh the laughs we could have, that'd be great.

EDIT: I won't even bother with a lot of the rest of your post as it displays such an incredible level of ignorance. Suffice to say Aspergers does not equal crazy.

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Honestly I think it looks like the garda was aware of some of the caller's triggers and played on them for his own amusement.
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I've heard some people saying that they felt guilty about laughing at the vid, or that they've decided the garda was in the wrong (having previously not thought so), since they found out he had Asperger's. This seems weird to me, as the caller was clearly 'not right in the head', and I don't think just because there's a name for what's wrong with him changes anything.
For the record, I laughed at the vid and think the guard was in the wrong.
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r3nu41, my family member, like your cousin, has an obsession. In his case it's tractors - he has collected a ton of books and magazines on them and they basically taught him to read; he knows about every type and make of tractor, even the minor modifications in make, since the first tractors! His main ambition is to have one himself. I think that's one of the things with Asperger's, the total specialisation in one subject. There's a recent book which claims W.B. Yeats suffered from the condiition, but what his obsession was I'm not sure, unless it was poetry.
My son didn't speak until he was four and did have social difficulties (like saying to a neighbour "I can see the line where you dyed your hair"), but he's doing fine now and goes to the local small pub, where the customers are very caring and understanding, I must say. In fact, life would be dull and unthinkable without him. I hate to think that in years to come, someone might treat him as that guard treated Brendan Campbell. I think I'd come back and haunt them!
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I think that while the Garda was in the wrong, it's not acceptable that he was calling them constantly and wasting their time.
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I think that while the Garda was in the wrong, it's not acceptable that he was calling them constantly and wasting their time.
This is very true but for many years Aspergers went unrecognised for what it was and it;s only in the last 15 years or so that good methods of helping Aspergers sufferers with their behaviour have been developed. If someone with Aspergers gets the proper help as a child then they can grow into a very competent adult who might be seen as "very nice but sometimes a little odd/eccentric".

If Brendan Campbell does have Aspergers (still unconfirmed at this stage) then he may never have received any help to modify his behaviour patterns and never trained how to tell when people are annoyed with him. If you are never given any help or guidance in life then it is hard to change, especially when you suffer from a condition that makes any change from your own developed and methodically ordered routines almost impossible to begin with.

He cannot be blamed for this behaviour, simply telling him it's wrong and not to do it won't work with Aspergers. They think differently to us.

Mareidmarie, tractors? That's going to make a very expensive 21st birthday present, I hope you have about €100,000+ to spare I think I've said this on boards.ie before but when my cousin was introduced to friends of ours and found out they were German he decided to engage in a conversation about World War II, hitler and the nazis. The look on their faces was priceless
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