Kildare farmer objects to €8bn Intel investment...

beertons wrote: »

You wouldn't think anyone lived in that gaff if you saw it, broken windows, tiles missing off the roof. The land around it is in some state, I'd call him a few things, but a farmer he ain't.

That's a bit of a cheap shot in all fairness, we all live the way we choose to.

the_syco wrote: »

That is true. However, if Intel expands in Ireland, people in Ireland get employed, and other businesses get money from Intels staff.

Thanks for the lesson but I actually understood that before you pointed it out.

freshpopcorn wrote: »

From my understanding he doesn't want to give up his farm/land that has being in his family for generations.

If rather have millions of euro in my family for generations personally.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The planning application has nothing to do with his land.

So Intel should not be allowed expand on this site ever because this man's land might eventually be CPO'ed for something else?

What kind of mickey mouse way would that be to go about things?

Intel approached the owner to buy the land, he refused to sell. Then the IDA illegally tried to CPO it, pure coincidence I suppose.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

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Ugh, someone else deal with this one. I haven't the will power :pac:

That post wasn't directed at you, why would you think it was?

eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »

Seems to be plenty of space for intel to expand - might make sense for them to expand west but it's not like it's the only option.

Directly north is the Rye. They're as close to it as they can go. I don't think they can go any further west, due to random creatures habitat. Pretty sure there's little to no carparks there anymore; Intel has remote car parks that they shuttle in their staff. There are people who are better off using public transport to get to Intel, as they'd end up parking further away and getting a shuttle bus to Intel!

IMO, they should look into tunnelling. Tunnel south, and expand that way.

Anyone who pays the fee and puts their objection/observation in writing is entitled to consideration by the planning authority.
If an objection/observation is not sustainable under planning law it should not delay the application.
An appeal may be lodged following the decision of the planning authority by either the developer or the objector which will cause some delay.
Again if the appeal is frivolous or unsustainable the delay will be minimal.

Muckers: Everything goes to Dublin.

Muckers: No you can't build here.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

And as we learnt in Galway that's were things get dangerous - not because of his rights to do so but because of the insane amount of time and appeal after appeal - as in the Apple case.

Apple rightly just got pissed off and said "fcuk this" and gave up.

We are a laughing stock with our processes here.

The message from that case was that Ireland was the wild west in terms of planning so don't even bother.

Key objector was not even local. That was some nutter down in Wicklow!

A nutter who wanted the Data Center built on his land in Wicklow

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Madness to think that a private company could even get the IDA to attempt to CPO someones land. I thought that kind of carry on only happened in the states.

How naive are you? Do you realise what an €8bn investment actually means both in terms of economic trickle-down and long term commitment to the facility?

There are countries that would burn out a neighbourhood with the folk still in residence for that plant.

There are a substantial cohort of people in this Country who bemoan a lack of opportunities for young people to get quality jobs with long term prospects and yet also bemoan investment as some sort of fat-cat nest feathering. Its a wonder we havent had dozens of Apple-Athenrys at this stage.

Deleted User wrote: »

if one fella needs to have a cpo hit him for 8bn to be invested then that is exactly what should happen

That's the kind of attitude that allows fracking. Its the same attitude that poisoned rivers from chemical run-offs, landfills that destroy the water tables,progress can be regressive.
If the guy had any sense he'd put temporary accommodation blocks on his land and make a fortune from construction workers.