Compiling a list of FG poor performance

is_that_so · 22-01-2020 9:40am

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I see Mr. Cook was telling people, Varadkar among the number, that we need overhaul the global tax system when it comes to multinationals. How about telling Varadkar to take the 13bn? These people pontificate and vying for an intership post election Varadkar gives the man an award today too.

They believe the judgement is wrong and are challenging it as is their right. Even if we "get" the money it's not ours and it will more than likely go to the IRS and any other jurisdiction who fancies they can get a slice of it. BTW Martin has the same stance on the case.

smurgen · 23-01-2020 4:40pm

Just thought of another.remeber Leo promised to get the bank debt refinanced at the ECB only to fail miserably?

James Brown · 23-01-2020 4:50pm

is_that_so wrote: »

They believe the judgement is wrong and are challenging it as is their right. Even if we "get" the money it's not ours and it will more than likely go to the IRS and any other jurisdiction who fancies they can get a slice of it. BTW Martin has the same stance on the case.

In the least it's the principle. Varadkar won't comment now as the proceedings are current. You've him giving an award to the CEO of a company owes the state 13bn in taxes, (to be confirmed) pontificating to the country, the Taoiseach included, about how we should reform corporate taxation. Be nice to see him hand out an award to a worker in a food back. It's elitist behaviour.
What Martin does or does not do in no way lets Varadkar off the hook for what he is. Those days are leaving us thank god.

James Brown · 24-01-2020 7:04pm

Paschal Donohoe's biggest regret: 'Not managing the National Children’s Hospital better'

As an escape from the hurly-burly of politics, Paschal Donohoe loves to get lost in a bit of science fiction. On the window sill beside his desk in the Department of Finance sits a collection of bobble-head figurines and collectibles, including Darth Vader and Chewbacca from Star Wars, the new Doctor Who (Jodie Whittaker), a Dalek and the Flash.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/paschal-donohoe-s-biggest-regret-not-managing-the-national-children-s-hospital-better-1.4149199?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Feconomy%2Fpaschal-donohoe-s-biggest-regret-not-managing-the-national-children-s-hospital-better-1.4149199

I should hope so. Anywhere else he'd be sacked.
Are all candidates getting a nice puff piece?

McMurphy · 26-01-2020 12:54pm

This is going down well.

https://twitter.com/judeperry98/status/1221040644614955009?s=19

smurgen · 26-01-2020 1:06pm

Uh oh!looks like the childrens hospital cost is now looking to hit 2.4 billion and that this will mean other key infrastructure investments will not now go ahead! Disaster. https://www.businesspost.ie/health/building-projects-at-risk-over-childrens-hospital-overruns-hse-warns-b9ee0132

ChikiChiki · 26-01-2020 1:09pm

smurgen wrote: »

Uh oh!looks like the childrens hospital cost is now looking to hit 2.4 billion and that this will mean other key infrastructure investments will not now go ahead! Disaster. https://www.businesspost.ie/health/building-projects-at-risk-over-childrens-hospital-overruns-hse-warns-b9ee0132

Mark my words, it will hit 3bn. People should be on the streets over the mismanagement of this.

Other critical funding suffers.

smurgen · 26-01-2020 1:14pm

I wonder the way the late late show has Arlene Foster on Friday and that will undoubtedly be an anti SF move in the balance of fairness could they also get on a few patients that have waited on trolleys in the last few months or some made homeless under FG's reign?

charlie14 · 26-01-2020 1:16pm

smurgen wrote: »

Uh oh!looks like the childrens hospital cost is now looking to hit 2.4 billion and that this will mean other key infrastructure investments will not now go ahead! Disaster. https://www.businesspost.ie/health/building-projects-at-risk-over-childrens-hospital-overruns-hse-warns-b9ee0132

Throw in the National Broadband @ 3 Billion and you looking at even more infrastructure projects being hit.

smurgen · 26-01-2020 1:22pm

charlie14 wrote: »

Throw in the National Broadband @ 3 Billion and you looking at even more infrastructure projects being hit.

At 2.4 billion that'll be a variance of 400% with the initial budget. In any other line of business they'd all the sacked.complete amateurs.

ChikiChiki · 26-01-2020 1:22pm

charlie14 wrote: »

Throw in the National Broadband @ 3 Billion and you looking at even more infrastructure projects being hit.

I think Catherine Murphy needs to do some investigation work similar to Siteserv in 2013 on both.

I'd say there is a lot to unravel beneath the surface of both.

charlie14 · 26-01-2020 1:28pm

McMurphy wrote: »

This is going down well.

https://twitter.com/judeperry98/status/1221040644614955009?s=19

FG after Bailey, the two Murphy and Farrell are certainly going for heavy handed political correct stable door bolting.

charlie14 · 26-01-2020 1:33pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I think Catherine Murphy needs to do some investigation work similar to Siteserv in 2013 on both.

I'd say there is a lot to unravel beneath the surface of both.

If she does then on broadband there is one name from Siteserv that will be familiar to her.

McMurphy · 26-01-2020 1:38pm

charlie14 wrote: »

If she does then on broadband there is one name from Siteserv that will be familiar to her.

I have been saying it for ages, an enquiry on the NBP is pretty much a certainty.

KrustyUCC · 26-01-2020 1:47pm

smurgen wrote: »

At 2.4 billion that'll be a variance of 400% with the initial budget. In any other line of business they'd all the sacked.complete amateurs.

400% variance and yet FG are preaching that they are financially prudent and can be trusted with the economy

Madness

Snow Garden · 26-01-2020 2:01pm

smurgen wrote: »

At 2.4 billion that'll be a variance of 400% with the initial budget. In any other line of business they'd all the sacked.complete amateurs.

It borders on criminal. I wonder who is benefiting from the overspend.

Idbatterim · 26-01-2020 2:27pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

400% variance and yet FG are preaching that they are financially prudent and can be trusted with the economy

Madness

Yeah and it’s the truth. They are ****. But there is no doubt in my mind , the others are even bigger idiots. They just haven’t been given the chance to prove it

charlie14 · 26-01-2020 2:39pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Yeah and it’s the truth. They are ****. But there is no doubt in my mind , the others are even bigger idiots. They just haven’t been given the chance to prove it

At this stage with the Children Hospital, The National Broadband Plan, the housing and homeless crisis, the health crisis, plus the sense of entitlement shown by Bailey, Farrell and Dara Murphy it is difficult to even imagine any of them being worse.

Idbatterim · 26-01-2020 2:43pm

charlie14 wrote: »

At this stage with the Children Hospital, The National Broadband Plan, the housing and homeless crisis, the health crisis, plus the sense of entitlement shown by Bailey, Farrell and Dara Murphy it is difficult to even imagine any of them being worse.

Fg are way less populist than ff. You are right , all of the above is a scandal. I disconnected my doorbell , if those other fools think they are going to lie to my face about “ fixing “ any of the issues , LOL!

charlie14 · 26-01-2020 2:50pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Fg are way less populist than ff. You are right , all of the above is a scandal. I disconnected my doorbell , if those other fools think they are going to lie to my face about “ fixing “ any of the issues , LOL!

I`m not that sure about FG being less populist. When it comes to promises of spending they seem to be up there with the rest in attempted vote buying.
The spend of 231M. on Caslebar/Westport road would fit with that imo.

cannotlogin · 26-01-2020 7:12pm

It's like Leo doesn't actually want to win the election:

1. In nearly all tv footage he has Mary Mitchell O'Connor in his company on the campaign trail. She's a liability and he should stop reminding people he has idiots in his party.

2. He has obviously trying to work on the feedback that he's cool, unrelatable and lacks empathy. His efforts to counteract this means he is coming across as less sincere than ever. His efforts to apologise for everything means people think he has everything to apologise. He wants people to feel like he did when he bought his first property at 25....does he not realise people can't even but soon at 35 anymore?

3. He was stupid to wait and should have called the election when the public were happy with the Brexit negotions.

FF bankrupted the country and he's making people consider giving them another chance. It's nearly unbelievably that he would & most likely will lose this.

Phoebas · 26-01-2020 7:31pm

charlie14 wrote: »

I`m not that sure about FG being less populist. When it comes to promises of spending they seem to be up there with the rest in attempted vote buying.
The spend of 231M. on Caslebar/Westport road would fit with that imo.

I thought it was the Flynn dynasty that were responsible for all the expensive infrastructure projects in Mayo.

James Brown · 26-01-2020 7:56pm

smurgen wrote: »

Uh oh!looks like the childrens hospital cost is now looking to hit 2.4 billion and that this will mean other key infrastructure investments will not now go ahead! Disaster. https://www.businesspost.ie/health/building-projects-at-risk-over-childrens-hospital-overruns-hse-warns-b9ee0132

And they talk about magic money trees. Plenty of money for them.
Complete shysters.

McMurphy wrote: »

This is going down well.

https://twitter.com/judeperry98/status/1221040644614955009?s=19

At least they are consistent with their manner, poor.

Wanderer78 · 26-01-2020 7:58pm

cannotlogin wrote:

FF bankrupted the country and he's making people consider giving them another chance. It's nearly unbelievably that he would & most likely will lose this.

Once again, it was the banks that were in fact bankrupt, the public finances weren't too bad prior to the crash

smurgen · 26-01-2020 7:59pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

And they talk about magic money trees. Plenty if money for them.
Complete shysters.

At least they are consistent with their manner, poor.

I wonder is Dinny O Brien starting to worry that his FG have had their day in the sun? He'll have to work harder to bleed the Irish taxpayer from now on.

charlie14 · 26-01-2020 8:41pm

Phoebas wrote: »

I thought it was the Flynn dynasty that were responsible for all the expensive infrastructure projects in Mayo.

Even Pee Flynn would have been laughed out of it in Mayo if he had suggest wasting that kind of money on the Westport/Castlebar road.

smurgen · 26-01-2020 9:01pm

charlie14 wrote: »

Even Pee Flynn would have been laughed out of it in Mayo if he had suggest wasting that kind of money on the Westport/Castlebar road.

Some party favourites cashing in their chips.lots of compulsory purchase orders on their fields I'd imagine

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Snow Garden · 26-01-2020 9:06pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Once again, it was the banks that were in fact bankrupt, the public finances weren't too bad prior to the crash

Not another red cent, banks are going to have to impose losses on their bondholders...:D

Another lie from FG.

smurgen · 26-01-2020 9:15pm

Snow Garden wrote: »

Not another red cent, banks are going to have to impose losses on their bondholders...:D

Another lie from FG.

And that was a move that made us look like the financial wild wild west.

ChikiChiki · 26-01-2020 9:24pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Yeah and it’s the truth. They are ****. But there is no doubt in my mind , the others are even bigger idiots. They just haven’t been given the chance to prove it

Tbh mismanaging the NCH by such and amount...

There should be no second chances.The sooner the country gets out of that mindset the quicker we progress.

smurgen · 26-01-2020 9:29pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Tbh mismanaging the NCH by such and amount...

There should be no second chances.The sooner the country gets out of that mindset the quicker we progress.

Imagine the entire allocation of funds for mental health is only 84 million eur annually while the budget for this one hospital is now up from 600 million to 2.4 billion.

KrustyUCC · 27-01-2020 10:49am

'Extremely disappointing': Colm Burke criticises Dara Murphy's constituency work

THOUGH Colm Burke has led Fine Gael’s Cork North-Central general election ticket for 18 months, the shadow of his predecessor is still an issue on the doors.

When Dara Murphy resigned from the Dáil late last year — having already said he wouldn’t be running in the next election — it opened up a huge controversy over his attendance in Dáil Éireann, or lack thereof in recent years.

The scandal has damaged Fine Gael on the northside, but Mr Burke said that when the issue comes up, his reaction is simple: He’s been raising this issue for five years.

“I was kept off the ticket in 2015. I fought to get on the ticket then because I was aware that constituency work wasn’t being done.

“I firmly believe I’ve been proven right,” he said.

“It was extremely disappointing that that person was a member of Fine Gael and gave a commitment to serve the constituency, to deal with issues, whether it’s housing, healthcare, or infrastructure development. None of that was done.”

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Extremely-disappointing-Colm-Burke-criticises-Dara-Murphys-constituency-work--9b3f20ca-d1d6-431d-9952-16135af6f221-ds

Yet Leo left Dara Murphy get away with his double jobbing

storker · 27-01-2020 2:40pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

And they talk about magic money trees. Plenty of money for them.

The magic money tree does exist and always has existed. The problem is that access to the magic garden is restricted to a select circle.

McMurphy · 27-01-2020 5:37pm

Young Jude has gone full on attack mode on FG, beans are being spilled.

https://twitter.com/judeperry98/status/1221443205130063872?s=19

And Regina is out of the stalls calling his expulsion silly

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/decision-to-expel-party-member-for-backing-his-fathers-campaign-is-silly-doherty-38897765.html

"I don't know where that decision came from but it's a silly decision and Jude is very welcome back into our party."

James Brown · 27-01-2020 6:34pm

Jude any relation to....

FINE GAEL TD John Perry has been speaking to reporters in the wake of his party’s decision this afternoon to add him to the election ticket for the Sligo-Leitrim constituency.

Today’s move by party bosses followed a court action against Fine Gael by the former junior minister, after he was dropped from the ticket at the local selection convention in October.

Perry, who has been a TD since 1997, said he wanted to thank his family and the many constituents who had supported him in his effort to be reinstated ahead of the general election.

Candles had been lit and mass cards sent to him in recent weeks, he said.

“Constituents genuinely felt I was wronged,” he said.
https://www.thejournal.ie/john-perry-fine-gael-3-2516053-Dec2015/

Plumbthedepths · 27-01-2020 6:36pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Jude any relation to....

Son.

James Brown · 27-01-2020 6:37pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Son.

Party vendetta perhaps?

_Kaiser_ · 27-01-2020 6:38pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Son.

This cycle of political dynasties where a seat is "passed down" from one to the next is something we really need to break in this country

Snow Garden · 27-01-2020 7:05pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This cycle of political dynasties where a seat is "passed down" from one to the next is something we really need to break in this country

Agreed. It's utter stupidity to pass a seat in the Dail down like some kind of royal title.

A simple solution is to avoid voting FFG. Most of the inherited seats are in that party.

McMurphy · 28-01-2020 12:03pm

Catherine Noone causing quite the furore saying Leo is autistic like, and on the spectrum.

Catherine Noone wrote:

“He’s autistic like, he’s on the spectrum, there’s no doubt about it. He’s uncomfortable socially and he doesn’t always get the inbetween bits."

Jesus.

Idbatterim · 28-01-2020 12:06pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Catherine Noone causing quite the furore saying Leo is autistic like, and on the spectrum.

Jesus.

Could be his saving grace this election !

FrancieBrady · 28-01-2020 12:08pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Catherine Noone causing quite the furore saying Leo is autistic like, and on the spectrum.

Jesus.

Was somebody saying something about 'nutters' in their party?

_Kaiser_ · 28-01-2020 1:03pm

Snow Garden wrote: »

Agreed. It's utter stupidity to pass a seat in the Dail down like some kind of royal title.

A simple solution is to avoid voting FFG. Most of the inherited seats are in that party.

I'd go further and limit the max time someone can serve as a TD to say 15 years. That's the lifetime of 3 governments on average.

Being a TD shouldn't be a lifelong career choice.

ChikiChiki · 28-01-2020 1:46pm

Safe to say Fine Gael should be the perfect case study on how not to run an election campaign. All over the place. They are literally giving away seats.

McMurphy · 28-01-2020 1:56pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Safe to say Fine Gael should be the perfect case study on how not to run an election campaign. All over the place. They are literally giving away seats.

I am still waiting on their major banana skin coming, Maria Bailey is rowing in behind Jude Perry ref his expulsion by text, so who knows.

Hopefully Josepha is touching cloth for the next ten days or so anyway.

eagle eye · 28-01-2020 4:02pm

Was in Galway yesterday and the place is littered with Fine Gael posters. Plenty of Fianna Fail ones too.
In Roscommon I seen the same thing with some woman with awful hair on FG posters all over the place. Seen a few for an FF candidate. Apparently there is a second FF candidate and I n Roscommon with no posters up.

FrancieBrady · 28-01-2020 4:32pm

Not great optics for FG in the middle of a campaign. SIPO finds against a FG councillor on 4 counts of contraventions of ethics in public office.

https://twitter.com/colincoyle/status/1222165130823249920

smurgen · 28-01-2020 4:50pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not great optics for FG in the middle of a campaign. SIPO finds against a FG councillor on 4 counts of contraventions of ethics in public office.

https://twitter.com/colincoyle/status/1222165130823249920

Is that the fella who was looking for brown envelopes on camera?

FrancieBrady · 28-01-2020 4:54pm

smurgen wrote: »

Is that the fella who was looking for brown envelopes on camera?

The very one.

smurgen · 28-01-2020 4:56pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The very one.

Loadsa money

Compiling a list of FG poor performance

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