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liffey decent

  • 07-09-2012 8:39am
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭


    Anyone here doing it this year??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Arawn wrote: »
    Anyone here doing it this year??

    Descent... Yup :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭stapeler


    Hope so. Did the lower Liffey today so all buzzed up.
    Looking at the Liffey Descent application form today and the entry fee is €50 this year. It that a bit steep?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    stapeler wrote: »
    Hope so. Did the lower Liffey today so all buzzed up.
    Looking at the Liffey Descent application form today and the entry fee is €50 this year. It that a bit steep?

    Hasn't it been that for a while now?

    Edit: Just checked. It's up a tenner. Bit steep alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Hasn't it been that for a while now?

    Edit: Just checked. It's up a tenner. Bit steep alright.

    Plus a pretty hefty €20 late entry fee! I really enjoyed this last year and myself and a friend were hoping to do this in a duo this year but at that cost, taking into account the cost of accommodation, food and getting there (live 3 hours from dublin,) time off work (I work weekends) it would probably cost us over €200 just to take part in the race. Could go on a wee holiday for that :rolleyes:

    There were loads of people in my club interested in doing this but everyone finds the entry fee way too expensive especially for people coming from the country. Surely we're not the only ones that feel this way. What's the justification for it? I'm pretty sure the rescue/ stewards etc aren't getting paid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 destanduin


    I agree, €70 is too much for a late entry. I imagine lots of people who couldn't commit to the race before the September 1st deadline will be put off by this. Everyone's feeling the pinch these days, and it's disappointing that even the Liffey Descent is being put out of reach too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭stapeler


    Bugger, didn't realize that after 1st September late entry applied.
    I think there should be a reduced fee for those of us who aren't competing for the prize money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 vintage01


    The late entry deadline was extended to the 17th. So if you get your enrty in this week there is no extra charge.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 vintage01


    From the Liffey D face book page

    Hi there,Just a final reminder that the Closing date for Liffey Descent entries is coming up!Monday the 17th September will be the final date for participants to get their Liffey Descent entries in.After this date the late entry fee of €20 will be applied. (Please note that any entrys received prior to this date have not been charged late entry fee).For those that have submitted entries, payment d...etails and confirmation will be sorted on the week of the 17th September.This year promises to be even better than previous years, with the Garda Boat Club acting as the new finish and after party venue.The price of €50 includes t-shirt, after race meal, entrance to the after party and free camping at the Boat Club for those so inclined.Attached are the entry form and the Paddlers Guide.If you have any questions regarding the race, please contact the Canoeing Ireland office and they will do their best to help you out.All the best,

    Liffey Descent Committee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    To be honest, I've paid the money reluctantly. I made a commitment that I will run the Descent for as long as my body will permit. In saying that, I'd forego the T Shirt, Meal and after party (which I've never gone to) for a reduced fee. I always buy a jacket or hoodie as a wee token of my effort so that just kills the need for the t shirt (although last years was quite cool) I can easily pack sambos and have them when I get back to the car and the last thing I want to do after spending all morning hanging around the k club and potentially three hours on the river is cram into a marquee with people I don't know.

    I prefer to go home for a shower and a well deserved beer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭Possedion


    is a shuttle service included in that price to the start of the race?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 A lang


    You would think!!!!!
    but bad news is NO
    "[FONT=ComicSansMS,Bold][FONT=ComicSansMS,Bold]Buses must be pre booked on the Friday 28th [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=ComicSansMS,Bold][FONT=ComicSansMS,Bold]September at bib collection. There will be a charge of €5.00 for the tickets. You will only be allowed on this bus if you have pre booked. Limited tickets are available and will operate on a ‘first come, first serve’ basis."[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=ComicSansMS,Bold]
    [/FONT]


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭Possedion


    seen that!! probably better sorting own shuttle!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 A lang


    MugMugs wrote: »
    To be honest, I've paid the money reluctantly. I made a commitment that I will run the Descent for as long as my body will permit. In saying that, I'd forego the T Shirt, Meal and after party (which I've never gone to) for a reduced fee.
    I prefer to go home for a shower and a well deserved beer.


    “MugMugs” I total agree with you, why should we have to pay for all the frills if we don’t use them,
    I have been paddling Liffey Descents since the mid 80's (when you got a badge for you sweetshirt/tracksuitor whatever you collected them on) but since this time I have only missed out on afew to-date.
    I have also helped out at the event for many years as well, as I was happy to see the Liffey Descent event do well and go from strength to strength.
    I have done the Liffey Descent for so long now that I would like also to keep doing the race for many more years!!
    But this rise in cost has already starting me thinking about entering the Liffey Descent 2013, it might just be a luxury that I might have to give up.
    I’m lucky I live in Dublin and I don’t have the cost of extra travel and accommodation to factor in too like “Truley” mention above and keeping in mind also our overseas paddlers.
    My other big Issue is the Date of the Liffey Descent, Why so late?
    Has someone an idea why we are now running the race at the end of September, and don’t say water levels.
    I was told it might be to do with the ICF calendar, but I don’t see Liffey Descent on the ICF web page????
    When will we move back to first weekend in September?
    So with the cost and current date of the race, being the two main factors to get a long term Liffey Descent paddler to think about trowing in the towel, I’m sure I’m not the only one thinking this!!
    I don’t want to trowing in the towel, but it will be considdered long and hard over the following year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    I actually don't mind paying a bit for the meal and party afterwards, it's a great touch especially for the people who are travelling distances to take part in the race. But the cost of a burger and a tshirt wouldn't even come to a tenner, at most. Where is the rest of the €40/60 going? I guess they do it because there are so many people, like A Lang that have been doing the race for years and have a strong commitment to doing it no matter what the cost. They're probably not too pushed about having fair weather racers like myself. But I can say if the fee had been a little more manageable there would have been at least half a dozen competitors from my club coming along this weekend. Such a shame.


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭Possedion


    i'd say some of the cost is going to Canoe Ireland, obviously less funding now from the government and this is a good way to build up the coffers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭catch.23


    A lang wrote: »
    My other big Issue is the Date of the Liffey Descent, Why so late?]Has someone an idea why we are now running the race at the end of September, and don’t say water levels.

    Would you prefer if the date had to be changed some years at short notice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 A lang


    catch.23 wrote: »
    Would you prefer if the date had to be changed some years at short notice?
    So how many Liffey's had to be move due to lack of water?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Anyway, bib got, bus ticket obtained. Over stressed woman dishing out bibs dealt with and ready for bed. For those of you running it, the very best of luck. Hope you all finish safe, well and without a swim!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭stapeler


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Anyway, bib got, bus ticket obtained. Over stressed woman dishing out bibs dealt with and ready for bed. For those of you running it, the very best of luck. Hope you all finish safe, well and without a swim!
    Stay safe, see ya on the winners podium:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Hi All,

    Anyone know what time the decent will be going by the weir in lucan, want to cycle down for a look.

    thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    could you go up and jump in with a wet suit and bouyance aid and float down or would you die ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,269 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    figs666 wrote: »
    could you go up and jump in with a wet suit and bouyance aid and float down or would you die ?

    You probably wouldn't die but that's a stupid idea to be blunt about it. The people running safety on the day will have enough to worry about without some eejit in a wetsuit throwing himself into the river. I hope you were joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Well a fun day. Some serious water there today. Hope everybody enjoyed themselves and stayed swim free..... Like me.... I'll post some footage later. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭stapeler


    Super day out, no swims, a little assistance required at Lucan. My first solo trip down and took 3hrs so well chuffed.
    I must say all the rescue and support was fantastic along the way, a very well organised event.

    Totally disgusted however 1.5 hours I had to queue for a burger, everybody tired and worn out and then the ambulance/first aid people jumping the queue to collect their food. There was almost a fight at one stage. A lot of people just walked away hungry.
    This needs to be addressed for the next event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    stapeler wrote: »
    Super day out, no swims, a little assistance required at Lucan. My first solo trip down and took 3hrs so well chuffed.
    I must say all the rescue and support was fantastic along the way, a very well organised event.

    Totally disgusted however 1.5 hours I had to queue for a burger, everybody tired and worn out and then the ambulance/first aid people jumping the queue to collect their food. There was almost a fight at one stage. A lot of people just walked away hungry.
    This needs to be addressed for the next event.

    I got there fairly early and took pity on the poor girl doing the burgers. One person feeding the busiest stall!!! To be fair, I queued for about 30 mins and should have just racked the car and hit McD's..... I think the river tasted better than the Burger.

    Great day all in all.... Really enjoyed it! Love that Palmerstown wave !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    This is Palmerstown. The wave is a lot more impressive when you're hitting it head on. I got a bit excited so excuse the language :)

    Edit : should be live in about an hour or so, Youtube is still processing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭Possedion


    great event, but the food queue was unreal at the end.
    I gave up after 90 minutes. What made it worse was all the red cross guys who kept skipping the queue - shame on them.

    The weir at Palmerstown took out alot of paddlers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 745 ✭✭✭josealdo


    yes i'm messing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    With respects to MadYaker it's not unknown for individuals to actually do this. Sometimes people see Kayakers descend weirs and think wouldn't it be fun to do that with your body and whilst most of the time with low levels they are relatively safe, I've had to extract thrill seekers from nasty stoppers myself which put me at risk as well as them. :)

    Hope you made it out yesterday anyway and enjoyed the craic. :)


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,493 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    Hi all

    If anyone spots or has photos from Straffan, Lucan, Wrens, or Palmerston Weirs which have anyone from Diver Rescue in them can you please get in touch with Underwater Hockey Ireland over on Facebook, or mail info@underwaterhockey.ie?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Zuppy


    Now that the race is done. How did everyone get on? I had to work this year :-(

    I have to say I don't mind the fee increase. If you are doing the race then you know in advance and if you don't then you shouldn't mind the late fee. There was enough warning about the late fee date. (not just here). Most events are costing more to run these days and costs of running large events are rising. Look at the cost of triathlons and adventure races (see their forums for all the threads on race costs). If we had a major sponsor and a few small ones the cost would be offset. The cash I pay goes towards paying for a few goodies for the volunteers as well as the bibs, licencing costs and the venues.

    I think the mindset that we can turn up to national events on the day and enter should change a bit. Most organisers are volunteers and if you enter in advance they can plan logistics, permits, race goodies, music, food etc. You enter on the day..... Headaches and more stress.

    By all reports I heard the new finish venue worked very well for visitors and most Irish paddlers?

    All we need now is for someone media savey and access to cameras to organise the PR for next year. Anyone here fit that bill? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    In case anyone happened to pass by Chapalizod Weir when I had my camera out i have uploaded the pics here:

    https://picasaweb.google.com/114230801320748995073/ChapalizodWeirLiffeyDescent2012?authuser=0&feat=directlink

    Apologies if I missed you, I may have been too busy throwing ropes or looking the wrong way ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭multisport


    I'm with Zuppylurk on the late entry fee, the race is on in September every year and there's next to no reason not to know about it. There's most definately an attitude in Irish paddling of being able to turn up and enter on the day, "sure don't I know the organiser, sound lad, he'll let me enter"

    Aside from any ranting, well done to the organisers and volunteers and of course all who participated, best post-race party in years too.
    One of the things I love about the Liffey Descent is the way you see boats of every size, shape and age being taken out of the shed and dusted off for the annual outing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Zuppy wrote: »
    Now that the race is done. How did everyone get on? I had to work this year :-(

    I have to say I don't mind the fee increase. If you are doing the race then you know in advance and if you don't then you shouldn't mind the late fee. There was enough warning about the late fee date. (not just here). Most events are costing more to run these days and costs of running large events are rising. Look at the cost of triathlons and adventure races (see their forums for all the threads on race costs). If we had a major sponsor and a few small ones the cost would be offset. The cash I pay goes towards paying for a few goodies for the volunteers as well as the bibs, licencing costs and the venues.

    I think the mindset that we can turn up to national events on the day and enter should change a bit. Most organisers are volunteers and if you enter in advance they can plan logistics, permits, race goodies, music, food etc. You enter on the day..... Headaches and more stress.

    By all reports I heard the new finish venue worked very well for visitors and most Irish paddlers?

    All we need now is for someone media savey and access to cameras to organise the PR for next year. Anyone here fit that bill? :D

    To be honest, I think they bit their nose off to spite their face. Numbers were low which was clearly obvious. Figures being bandied about were 600 over the 800 last year. For the extra 2k (assuming those numbers are right) that would have been made they missed out on 8k had the price stayed the same.

    I understand that an event like this can't be cheap and if it were ever suggested to abandon it, I'd be the first up in arms but where's the anchor sponsor gone? Why were Jameson not replaced? All of the current sponsors whilst well needed are relatively small fish!!! (pun intended)

    I don't mind the late entry fee but I just felt that the date they initially gave smelt a lot like profiteering and it wouldn't be unknown for our fair union to want to make some money off us now, would it??

    Advertising. I love a lot of aspects of the Descent. One of these is the motivation received from people standing on bridges, in fields, on river banks and just after Chapelizod weir the people in their back garden with a BBQ and reggae music and the support they give us. It's a good pick me up. Paddling 28KM isn't easy as we all know and the little lift that they all give us along with the very kind words of the support crew means quite a bit when your hitting the preverbial wall..... I ranted here but basically, why isn't this even advertised. Irish Times nor Indo covered it this year. Ian Dempsey mentioned it this morning that was about it. Why don't people know it's on and why are they not promoted to go and witness the utter carnage in Straffan and Lucan???

    As for the new finish..... It was heaven. It was nicely kitted out and well laid out but as well as that, if you've done the Descent before then you will know that the last slog down Islandbridge is hell...utter hell and passing the current finish to head to Trinity was hell for me..... I got around the corner and saw the boat club and just said "Niiiiiiiiice" It was a welcome early finish !


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