When you think of traitors, turn cloaks, and backstabbers?

badabing106 · 23-06-2021 10:05pm #1

Who are the three names to that come to your mind?

Brutus, Gollum, and Ephialtes of Trachis

Capt'n Midnight · 23-06-2021 10:09pm

Moeriscus

Bobblehats · 23-06-2021 10:09pm

To be honest I think of most the potential Ireland team of the future. Particularly if born here

RobMc59 · 23-06-2021 10:10pm

Judas Iscraiot

humberklog · 23-06-2021 10:11pm

Grealish and Rice.

TP_CM · 23-06-2021 10:15pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

Turn cloak? Do you mean turncoat?

Turncloak is the same thing

dxhound2005 · 23-06-2021 10:30pm

humberklog wrote: »

Grealish and Rice.

First they took our potatoes, then they took our Rice.

paul71 · 23-06-2021 10:34pm

Quisling

tdf7187 · 23-06-2021 10:36pm

Proinsias de Rossa

Imprisoned due to his involvement in the IRA border campaign in his teens, Workers Party activist in his 20 and 30s, government minister in a Fine Gael (and therefore right-wing) coalition in his forties, commisar in the neo-liberal EU bureaucracy by his fifties.

buried · 23-06-2021 10:48pm

That "Throw me the idol, no time to argue" hoor from Raiders of the Lost Ark

Strumms · 23-06-2021 10:56pm

tdf7187 wrote: »

Proinsias de Rossa

Imprisoned due to his involvement in the IRA border campaign in his teens, Workers Party activist in his 20 and 30s, government minister in a Fine Gael (and therefore right-wing) coalition in his forties, commisar in the neo-liberal EU bureaucracy by his fifties.

Yep, the fella was dodge, I’m sure still is... walked in to take a seat in a John Bruton led government...Bruton had to be one of the most right wing Taoiseachs aside from Fitzgerald in the modern history of the country..

23-06-2021 11:00pm

Strumms wrote: »

Yep, the fella was dodge, I’m sure still is... walked in to take a seat in a John Bruton led government...Bruton had to be one of the most right wing Taoiseachs aside from Fitzgerald in the modern history of the country..

Thats the guy who loved Prince Charlie, am I right. Frank Ross would fit in well there.

KaneToad · 23-06-2021 11:02pm

humberklog wrote: »

Grealish and Rice.

Came here to say Declan Rice....see you beat me to it.

Vita nova · 23-06-2021 11:03pm

Surprised nobody has mentioned Benedict Arnold considering most of us grew up with American TV.

pavb2 · 23-06-2021 11:11pm

Fr's Eamon Hunter and Barry Kiernan

Shoelaces · 23-06-2021 11:50pm

Strumms wrote: »

Yep, the fella was dodge, I’m sure still is... walked in to take a seat in a John Bruton led government...Bruton had to be one of the most right wing Taoiseachs aside from Fitzgerald in the modern history of the country..

The leader of a government that introduced the Freedom of Information act only for following governments to alter and redact it?

Robin Van Persie

Say Your Number · 23-06-2021 11:53pm

Lotso the Bear

NIMAN · 23-06-2021 11:55pm

Great bunch of lads.

23-06-2021 11:57pm

Nothing but bounders and cads.

Strumms · 24-06-2021 1:42am

Shoelaces wrote: »

The leader of a government that introduced the Freedom of Information act only for following governments to alter and redact it?

Robin Van Persie

You judge a government and leader on one act now ? Jeeez, erm, right.

Atlantic Dawn · 24-06-2021 1:53am

Anyone believing we had a famine.

y0ssar1an22 · 24-06-2021 1:57am

robert the bruce in braveheart and benedict arnold

24-06-2021 2:23am

Fine Gael and also now Fianna Faíl

StupidLikeAFox · 24-06-2021 2:45am

The early leaders of the state - they promised a free country unburdened by colonial rule but by the 1930s had instead set about creating a quasi theocratic society, replacing one class structure for another. Little social mobility, no chance of higher education for working classes. Women were badly treated systemically, cemented in the constitution as heir place being in the home and were required to retire from jobs like banks and the civil service as soon as they got married. Mother and baby homes set up to ship out the women who had the temerity to tempt a man to have sex with her. Laws had to be given the stamp of approval by the archbishop. They once even deported a man from his own country for setting up an immoral dance club that played jazz.

These things took decades to unravel but I think we are getting there now

AidoEirE · 24-06-2021 2:55am

The play Othello that every bastard of a student had to read in school for exams.

That ****er Iago some bollix was all I remember now.

24-06-2021 3:39am

Say Your Number wrote: »

Lotso the Bear

The absolute bastard. :mad:

eoin.d · 24-06-2021 4:27am

Charlie Flanagan and Leo the leak varadkar

Immortal Starlight · 24-06-2021 5:29am

Darina it was only a few pictures Allen. Absolutely disgusting.

Gregor Samsa · 24-06-2021 7:32am

Lando Calrissian. Made it look like he was helping the legitimate Empire government capture insurrectionist terrorists, and then turned around and helped the rebel scum.

24-06-2021 7:46am

I wouldn't be too hard on Grealish, mostly because he looks like Little Dora on steroids with that haircut and hairband and Jeff Hendrick's hair is already bad enough for team morale.

Richard Hillman · 24-06-2021 8:40am

The staff of Newstalk on George Hook. All of them were weaseling for his broadcasting slot or trying to alleviate the pressure on their own slots.

sydthebeat · 24-06-2021 8:51am

Charles Trevelyan

That fcuking genocidal cnut

rightmove · 24-06-2021 9:05am

john delorean

24-06-2021 9:16am

Labour Party 2011.

pavb2 · 24-06-2021 10:51am

Leonard McNally always comes to mind with respect to Ireland and the 1798 rebellion he betrayed Lord Edward Fitzgerald amongst others.

After his death in 1820, it emerged that McNally had for many years been an informant for the government, and one of the most successful British spies in Irish republican circles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_McNally

fryup · 24-06-2021 11:00am

its turnCOAT not turncloak

Sgt Hartman · 24-06-2021 11:04am

King Diarmaid MacMurrough of Leinster for inviting Strongbow and his Norman buddies to Ireland to help win his kingdom back. There's been a British presence in Ireland ever since.

24-06-2021 11:12am

Iago.
Bojo.

corner of hells · 24-06-2021 11:13am

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

King Diarmaid MacMurrough of Leinster for inviting Strongbow and his Norman buddies to Ireland to help win his kingdom back. There's been a British presence in Ireland ever since.

Sure Diarmaids daughter Aoife was married to Strongbow, its probably cause house prices were cheaper in Ireland at the time and Aoife wanted to be near her mother or something like that.

HalloweenJack · 24-06-2021 12:04pm

Anne Marie Waters.

Born and raised in Ireland but says she's 'passionately, loyally, resolutely and proudly British' and devotes her time to defending Britain from foreigners. I'll give her a pass if her family are of English extraction but otherwise I resent her for going over there and blurring the line between Irish and British, as there are plenty there already who already think 'we're all the same'.
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/anne-marie-waters-ukip-irish-13309240

Anyone in this day and age who thinks that we are better off aligning, to varying degrees, with the Westminster government. Have we not learnt anything from history? They don't give a **** ahout us and, as can be seen with this current government, they care very little about the other constituent parts of the UK, only really showing any concern when there is talk of them leaving. Even the DUP are complaining about the disinterest shown by them.

Since Brexit, I've seen a noticeable group of people ( a minority but still too many) who think we should follow them out, fight their battles within the EU or go as far as re-joining the UK. Such arguments to me completely ignore our nation's history. We're better off strengthening our ties with the EU and being part of a bigger group that works for mutual interest then going back to an England-centric UK.

Ush1 · 24-06-2021 12:12pm

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

King Diarmaid MacMurrough of Leinster for inviting Strongbow and his Norman buddies to Ireland to help win his kingdom back. There's been a British presence in Ireland ever since.

Not really a turncoat, he was never really loyal to Ireland.

24-06-2021 12:13pm

Sol Campbell

tdf7187 · 24-06-2021 12:26pm

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Anne Marie Waters.

Born and raised in Ireland but says she's 'passionately, loyally, resolutely and proudly British' and devotes her time to defending Britain from foreigners. I'll give her a pass if her family are of English extraction but otherwise I resent her for going over there and blurring the line between Irish and British, as there are plenty there already who already think 'we're all the same'.
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/anne-marie-waters-ukip-irish-13309240

Anyone in this day and age who thinks that we are better off aligning, to varying degrees, with the Westminster government. Have we not learnt anything from history? They don't give a **** ahout us and, as can be seen with this current government, they care very little about the other constituent parts of the UK, only really showing any concern when there is talk of them leaving. Even the DUP are complaining about the disinterest shown by them.

Since Brexit, I've seen a noticeable group of people ( a minority but still too many) who think we should follow them out, fight their battles within the EU or go as far as re-joining the UK. Such arguments to me completely ignore our nation's history. We're better off strengthening our ties with the EU and being part of a bigger group that works for mutual interest then going back to an England-centric UK.

I think she still has a hint of a Dublin accent, so it's not very credible. Also she doesn't seem to get that the British ruling class care even less about her than they do about their own native working class.

Feisar · 24-06-2021 12:35pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Not really a turncoat, he was never really loyal to Ireland.

He often gets the blame but we are looking back with the current lens of national sovereignty, such notions didn't really exist back then.

Feisar · 24-06-2021 12:37pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Charles Trevelyan

That fcuking genocidal cnut

A tan acting tannishly, hardly a turncoat.

Feisar · 24-06-2021 12:40pm

You bet. You know in my line of work, you gotta be able either to sing "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic" or "Dixie" with equal enthusiasm... dependin' upon present company.

Capt'n Midnight · 24-06-2021 1:02pm

Robert Lundy

24-06-2021 1:04pm

Tony Montana.

Had a game in 2006. F*c that game should have been spun off.

TheValeyard · 24-06-2021 1:11pm

Scar, The Lion King.

Chiarrai92 · 24-06-2021 1:19pm

Big Smoke and Ryder in GTA san Andreas

machiavellianme · 24-06-2021 1:24pm

TP_CM wrote: »

Turncloak is the same thing

There was me thinking of St Brigid turning her cloak over half of Co Kildare.
Since I am not a lily white, I think little of her but she keeps the kids occupied at the end of January.

When you think of traitors, turn cloaks, and backstabbers?

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