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Whats your private pension fund worth?

  • 26-09-2016 10:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    I started my pension early, but then didn't contribute for about 5 years after moving to the UK which was a big mistake i think, basically threw away free money that my company would have given me.

    I'm 31 and my current private pension fund is worth about 35% of my annual salary.

    Whats your pension worth as a % of your annual salary and what age are you?

    Just trying to get an idea about how far behind the curve i am.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    32, cant afford one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭PaddyWilliams


    I'm 35 and as of this morning my fund was €87k. No idea of percentage at the moment. 30 years left to go on it so not all that worried yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    It depends. Do I subtract my current liabilities from it? Because if I don't it's easier to calculate. It's zero.

    I'm 41.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Not sure. When I want to be depressed I'll look it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I have three years worth of turf in the shed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    I'm 52. Last valuation in Jan 2016 was €148k after 32 years service...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭fleet


    About 6,500... started last year at 34... currently sinking 15% in, plus employers contribution.


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    I don't have a pension.
    I'm 34, and not all that bothered about it if I'm honest. I don't trust any financial institutions enough to invest with them, so I figure what I have in a savings account at the time of retirement is what I have to live on for the rest of my days, and so be it.
    I'm well aware there may be no state pension either, but sure it'll be grand :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    A private pension is one of the most tax efficient ways of saving. Especially if your employer contributes. I'm amazed at the amount of people who don't take advantage of employer contributions. It's free money!!

    I really do fear a populist government dipping into private pensions to pay for those who can't pay / won't pay.
    The pension levy set a dangerous precedent.

    An aging population along with a low uptake in people taking responsibility for their retirement will soon lead to a huge poverty gap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Mine is = to current salary, company pay 25% on top of what I put in. If only I could retire today, prob be worth a lot less in 30 years


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Be interesting to see what happens when the next financial crisis happens, I'd say plenty of pension funds will go bye bye


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I'm 29 and have about 35k in the fund. I stopped contributing a few months back on leaving a job but must start again early next year. Unemployed at the minute and I'd love to get at it as I've literally €12.83 to my name after counting this morning. :-)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    A private pension is one of the most tax efficient ways of saving. Especially if your employer contributes. I'm amazed at the amount of people who don't take advantage of employer contributions. It's free money!!

    I really do fear a populist government dipping into private pensions to pay for those who can't pay / won't pay.
    The pension levy set a dangerous precedent.

    An aging population along with a low uptake in people taking responsibility for their retirement will soon lead to a huge poverty gap.

    One needs to have money they can put into a pension first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Dr Strange


    My what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,945 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I have one from a previous job that I think had about 20k in it before the worst of the crisis hit. Have another few years then from a public sector job. Nothing at the minute as my current employer's deal isn't great and I can't really afford to be putting into it anyway (young child to support these days and a long commute thanks to Dublin rental madness)

    But seeing as that the Governments will change the rules on the fly if it comes to it, I expect that the only way to save for retirement now is personal savings. Course the way things are going in the country/Europe, I'll need to be working till near 70 anyway if still physically able

    I'm 41 btw.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    Whats your pension worth as a % of your annual salary and what age are you?


    It's about 3.5 times my salary, but I'm more than a decade older.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Pension... sch-mension... lol

    Oddly enough I quite enjoy working. Think I might just work for the rest of my life. Retired people seem bored and depressed to me!

    Came out the other side of the recession better than I went in... so I'm confident I can always scrape an income together somehow.

    Does anyone else think stressing over your retirement when you're in your late 20's or 30's is a bit ridonkulous? I'm expecting to see pension ads for teenagers any day now... :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    I want to retire early and intend to live a long time so I pump a fair bit in to it. All contributions matched by employer. I have been doing this for about 20 years or so and thankfully my pot is now worth a good bit more than I put in to it.
    About 5 times my salary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    I'd rather not give a % but will say that it's on track for the amount I would like to retire on. I think a lot of people are incredibly naive about pensions and what they will live off upon retirement. Using a lack of faith in government or the inherent risk involved in investing as a reason not to contribute does not make up for having nothing but the state pension to survive off.

    What makes even less sense are the people who could receive employer contributions and don't avail of it. My employer doubles my contributions up to a certain % but there are several colleagues who would rather have a slightly larger payslip each month than take the free investment. I could maybe understand in the short-term if they were in dire financial circumstances but to do it as a choice :confused:

    Unless you plan on becoming Permabear then it's something everyone needs to take seriously and I bet even he has something plugged away just in case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Now 66, I took early retirement at 56.
    At first it was 6% deducted with the company putting in 13%.

    When I joined the company at 41 I had almost nil from previous employments when fees were taken arranging transfers to that employer (2.3 years).
    I'm eternally grateful to our purchasing manager who took me aside (*) and told me to start making extra contributions to buy 10 years service, something I was ignorant about. I also got 2 more years for cash/other.

    (*) I think he said I was a f****** eejit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I have a few old Metallica albums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »

    But seeing as that the Governments will change the rules on the fly if it comes to it, I expect that the only way to save for retirement now is personal savings. Course the way things are going in the country/Europe, I'll need to be working till near 70 anyway if still physically able

    When the old age pension was introduced the average life expectancy was 65 years, so it really was a pension for old age. With current life expectancy of nearly 90 then the pension at 65 is an idea that won't last much longer, not helped by the ratio of 5 workers for every pensioner dropping to 2 workers in the next few decades.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    My wife will be getting a public sector pension. She has a relatively low grade position in the Dept of Education.
    I found out last year that I would need to be contributing 1000 euro a month to my pension in order to match her
    pension value at retirement. I am praying she doesn't divorce me!
    Given the demographics I am not sure how the government will afford these public sector pensions while keeping the state
    pension at a suitable value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Sugar Free wrote: »
    I'd rather not give a % but will say that it's on track for the amount I would like to retire on. I think a lot of people are incredibly naive about pensions and what they will live off upon retirement. Using a lack of faith in government or the inherent risk involved in investing as a reason not to contribute does not make up for having nothing but the state pension to survive off.

    What makes even less sense are the people who could receive employer contributions and don't avail of it. My employer doubles my contributions up to a certain % but there are several colleagues who would rather have a slightly larger payslip each month than take the free investment. I could maybe understand in the short-term if they were in dire financial circumstances but to do it as a choice :confused:

    Unless you plan on becoming Permabear then it's something everyone needs to take seriously and I bet even he has something plugged away just in case.

    I guess it depends how you make your living. Is it still viable to continue working as you get older?

    Some professions are not suitable, and those people are right to have an exit strategy.

    No one in my family ever retires it seems! lol

    Part of the trick to this, is having many different skills that you can create an income from. If you're only good at or qualified to do one thing... then potentially your options are very limited as you age!

    Also I think a lot of people seem to be living for that future date... the big R... I could never imagine living like that. I do things I enjoy. If the money is good or bad is not the determining factor. (It's just a bonus if I make good money)

    I've read so many stories of people who slaved away for their retirement, then a couple of years into their "golden years", they suffer a stroke or lose their OH etc... Then they wonder what was it all for?

    I do save a bit for a rainy day. And I don't carry debt anyway... but saving/investing money to use for a 20/30 year period at the end of my life? Nah... I think it's better to live a healthy stress free life right now, while I'm young. That way there is a better chance I'll be healthy when I'm older.

    I find it highly ironic (and sad) that most retirees are in very poor health by the time they reach that point, principally because they bought into the idea of working like a dog towards their retirement... It's an odd concept to me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I'm 52. Last valuation in Jan 2 016 was €148k after 32 years service...
    Minus the tax when you start drawing it out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18 Harry Browne


    I have three years worth of turf in the shed

    Hope that shed doesn't burn down. Not good to keep your all your eggs in one basket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Hope that shed doesn't burn down. Not good to keep your all your eggs in one basket.
    He could always sell a years supply to the islanders and protect some of his assets :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I'm in a company plan, so:

    contribute max amount
    to get
    max company contribution
    and to get
    max tax benefit

    I also added AVCs.

    48 now and have been managing my pension since I was 25.
    I plan to be comfortable and to enjoy retirement. If I drop dead at 65, well I won't really care about that then.

    It amazes me how many people adopt a 'head in the sand' attitude to this or "because gubberment".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,694 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    My precious and valuable collection of Callcards will see me right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Rather than get a pension, I decided to smoke more.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18 Harry Browne


    osarusan wrote: »
    My precious and valuable collection of Callcards will see me right.

    Used or mint / sealed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    One of the best things my last job did was get us all financial advise, I started my pension in my mid 20s (10 years ago) but have not paid into it in the last two years due to job changes, current employer offers a plan after 6 months service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    I'm in a company plan, so:

    contribute max amount
    to get
    max company contribution
    and to get
    max tax benefit

    I also added AVCs.

    48 now and have been managing my pension since I was 25.
    I plan to be comfortable and to enjoy retirement. If I drop dead at 65, well I won't really care about that then.

    It amazes me how many people adopt a 'head in the sand' attitude to this or "because gubberment".
    Amazing isn't it, maybe they can't afford to pay into a pension, not everyone have the benefit of their employer making contributions to their pension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Given the demographics I am not sure how the government will afford these public sector pensions while keeping the state
    pension at a suitable value.

    This .
    If you think we've got PS Union unrest now, wait until the day arrives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    osarusan wrote: »
    My precious and valuable collection of Callcards will see me right.

    I have a Chupa-Chups steely pog slammer for trade?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    A private pension is one of the most tax efficient ways of saving. Especially if your employer contributes. I'm amazed at the amount of people who don't take advantage of employer contributions. It's free money!!

    I really do fear a populist government dipping into private pensions to pay for those who can't pay / won't pay.
    The pension levy set a dangerous precedent.

    An aging population along with a low uptake in people taking responsibility for their retirement will soon lead to a huge poverty gap.

    Or a young generation getting bent over a barrel for rent and mortgage while making getting miserable wages by employers


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭323


    Given the demographics I am not sure how the government will afford these public sector pensions while keeping the state
    pension at a suitable value.

    Simple, they will raid the private pensions. The pension levy.

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I have enough money to last me the rest of my life









    if I die next month..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭CFlat


    BraveDonut wrote: »

    It amazes me how many people adopt a 'head in the sand' attitude to this or "because gubberment".

    If you started a thread on Boards about 'what are your favourite sweets' someone would say they can't afford sweets because of the USC or some other such drivel. Sad really.


    Anyway I'm similar to a few here. Paid a fair bit in during the CT but when everything went up in smoke that all ended. Only really getting back on my feet now and badly need to start contributing again. I think there's about 20K in mine which is very worrying for a middle aged man.

    Ill probably also end up working till I'm 70(if I can and I'm allowed).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    It's whatever is left over after selling my Dublin property and buying a little cottage in Mayo.
    Hopefully I'll have a healthy six figure in savings as well all going well.

    I don't have a traditional pension plan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    jester77 wrote: »
    Mine is = to current salary, company pay 25% on top of what I put in. If only I could retire today, prob be worth a lot less in 30 years

    25% er contribution :O.... what industry are you in if you don't mind me asking!

    I'm asking as I'm in the software industry and our company is only giving 3% so 22% extra is massive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,470 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    25% er contribution :O.... what industry are you in if you don't mind me asking!

    I'm asking as I'm in the software industry and our company is only giving 3% so 22% extra is massive.

    25% is definitely better than average. I'm in IT and I thought I was doing well with 7%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,519 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    My plan is to die before the shaky future I've built crashes down on top of me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Greyian


    25% er contribution :O.... what industry are you in if you don't mind me asking!

    I'm asking as I'm in the software industry and our company is only giving 3% so 22% extra is massive.
    RedXIV wrote: »
    25% is definitely better than average. I'm in IT and I thought I was doing well with 7%

    25% would be absolutely amazing, though it is possible he means they contribute 25% of whatever he puts in (every €4 he puts in, they put in €1).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    RedXIV wrote: »
    25% is definitely better than average. I'm in IT and I thought I was doing well with 7%

    25 % is ****ing monstrous, never mind better than average. I get 4.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    47 married no kids, mortgage paid off, no credit card debt, cars bought and paid for, so no personal debt what so ever. Took early retirement on a €23,000 a year pension, have about €100,000 in savings.
    Pension is about €380 a week after tax so plenty (for me) to live on considering no mortgage. Herself has a small business from home which pays her €800+- a month, her private pension is currently valued at €120,000.
    We're in a great position, granted we won't be taking a cruise every year but considering what some people work for per week I'm not going to complain.

    I took early retirement because I could, too many people either can't or are afraid to. I do voluntary work now, again because I can.

    My advise would be if possible; retire early if you are in a position to. I'm lucky and I know some just can't but if you can; do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭kal7


    I try to put in 20%.

    I am 43yr

    Current pot is 3x salary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    RedXIV wrote: »
    25% is definitely better than average. I'm in IT and I thought I was doing well with 7%

    yeah anything over 5% is pretty good tbh from what I've seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    I'm 31 and currently paying 15% of my salary in each period. Current pension pot is 56.66% of my current annual salary. What's depressing is it buys feck all of a pension. To have what I consider a decent pension you need a pot of 400k plus minimum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    I'm 50 and have managed to save about $135K (yes, USD). Whatever US Social Security benefits I'm entitled to will transfer to Ireland by treaty, but I don't know how that works. I'm not saving anything at the moment because I am paid about half what my job is worth (working for a close friend who hired me when another job offer fell through even though he couldn't afford to pay me very much).

    Edit: The money is in an Individual Retirement Account (IRA). I'm legally forbidden from withdrawing the money without huge penalties before retirement age except for four or five reasons, none of which apply to me because (to keep it simple) I don't live, work, own a home, or go to university in the US. Interestingly I can use it as "collateral" of a sort to prove to the UK that I have the required funds to qualify to get a residency visa as the wife of a UK citizen (actually a UK/Irish dual citizen, but it counts), if we ever decide to do that.


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