Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

Not before making that post I didn't

Reading it now on BBC sport though it looks like the players responded well to his comments. Hopefully we can do the same next weekend

You had two choices:

1. Admit you were incorrect on the tax rebate
2. Keep your head down and hope it might blow over

but you went with the wum option and fair play for calling yourself out on this as it saves us all taking you serious in future.

It's early days! But, it's worrying! I think the tour to SA will hurt Munster. There's a lot of average lads holding down spots in Munster!

And Zebo is one! Hesout of shape, slow and any x factor left is probably xcessive pastries. Xcessive poor work habits. He's surely got to at least look like a back 3 player and make some effort! If not, The backroom team is shocking! Archer is another one who's bang average! John Ryan was let go and Archer retained! Factor in the poopstorm with Chris Farrell and the Munster delegation to play poor sides in SA and its not looking rosy. Last year Cloete was played a lot, despite the fact that he's nothing special. Kendellen ,Hodson and the new u19 lad should be fast tracked . By that, I mean they should be starting these matches.

Rowntree is in a bad position already. JVG has left Munster worse off that when he took over. If Rowntree is selecting Archer, Zebo and Goggin well things are not good. Interesting that Carberry hasn't offered anything special again! An infusion of young hungry lads is needed. It will light a fire under the regular lads!

Munster fans should be pissed off! It's more and more shyte! Systems can't change until the lads are ready! I think Fekitoa will turn it around. It's early days for him. This week's game should be a bonus point win! Munster should dominate this one!

Tis early in the season and a new coaching ticket, not time to panic yet.

On the Zebo thing, wow, some pile on, a few nasty personal comments too which aren't really needed. I was watching on my phone and haven't watched it back but my memory is of him getting beaten on the outside (which happens) and did he not get back and make the tackle on the 22? Or am I misremembering and mixing up with another tackle he made very soon after? As others said, he's not why we lost at all.

What annoyed me most was we didn't learn our lesson from the previous week and protect our own ball well enough, and handling errors. We seem to be trying to have minimal players defending our offensive rucks, need more bodies in there. Pat Lam had Connacht as the best passing team in the league after a spell, we should be aspiring to that level.

Cloete started the big games? Zebo is out of shape, that's the backroom staff and Zebos responsibility. Hodnett and Kendellen were far superpowers to Cloete and at a very early age.

On Zebo, he may be a potential awful signing. He looks like a prop! Why? Why is Archer on less money than Ryan? Would it make a difference?

Munster will no doubt improve. I think that in a couple of years with the young lads getting time, they will win silverware

Dragons beat Munster as did Cardiff. When does that happen the Munster lose 2 straight to the regions?

Don't be bringing facts into a discussion as they get in the way of a good moan

Facts are Munster resigned a poor shadow of a player! Another fact, they tried to extend JVG. It's a fact the trophy cabinet is bare.

But, they can turn it around. The quality if recent u20's is better than the other provinces, imo. If Rowntree can do a good job, Munster should be very formidable.

That's what the union needs! I can see Munster and Ulster providing a good chunk of the national team in a few years. Like Farrell, Rowntree should be given time. I hope he can make Munster a champion team.

Correction... phog

Munster are better at backing youth. There's no doubt. The quality in the pack alone is great. I think the new Munster players will be better than the ones over the last 6 years.

The branch itself, has made poor decisions. JVG should have been shown the door immediately.

Of all the provinces, Munster pack the best attendances? Maybe Ulster push past them. The 40k in Lansdowne last season was astounding on a week's or 10 days notice. The salary issues shouldn't be a factor if it's a choice of Archer or Ryan, imo.

I see Kendellen as being a 50 cap international. Seriously good young player. Ahern will grab a bag of caps too, my opinion. Hodnett and Wycherly Jr could be regular national team players and Casey has the pole position to be the #9 for a while.

How to harness these boys with the players of today? If Lancaster was going south west to Limerick, I would think Munster would be a top 3 club team in Europe. I hope Rowntree makes the right decisions and Munster get to the next level. But, it's not going to happen with the current rotund Zebo. Or Archer, for that matter.

We were also missing our coaches & backroom staff, they too were stranded in SA.

knee infection.... back December...

Yeah, in fairness to Zebo he was axed after his departure was announced.

Equally though, his period as first choice coincided with an absolute dearth of other (fit) wingers.

It's fair enough to say that Joe was never a real fan.