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Google drive price drop

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  • #52
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    So if you wanted to you could use a VAT free address and avoid the increased price?


  • #53
    ecomac
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ecomac


    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    I consider myself an absolute computer geek

    You are wrong.
    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    Also none of those options really suit if you need your files on the go which drive does offer.


    You are wrong.


  • #54
    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    ecomac wrote: »
    You are wrong.




    You are wrong.

    What an informative post.

    This is ultimately a good deal. If you are worried about the NSA, you wont use it without encrypting you data. Or you wont use it at all. Fair enough. But this constant thread spoiling just because you don't like it is tiresome.

    Also, all this talk of NAS boxes etc are great, but it wont help if you're burgled or the house burns down. Cloud storage does have benefits, especially at $2 a month.


  • #55
    ecomac
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ecomac


    Alanstrainor wrote: »
    What an informative post.

    I don't consider myself as a computer geek, yet I'm able to access my all NAS files "on the go" from any internet enabled place on the Earth. Most NAS units can do that, here is an example:
    http://www.buffalo-technology.com/en/technology/our-technology/web-access/

    You don't need to have any particular computer knowledge, to use it, but if you do, then you can set up an VPN connection to your home/work network and have full access to all of your networked devices.

    I'm not going to stop anybody from using cloud service. I'm just showing other options.


  • #56
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Doesn't the NSA thing only effect those in America? I thought it doesn't effect Europe.


  • #57
    DERICKOO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭DERICKOO


    ecomac wrote: »
    I don't consider myself as a computer geek, yet I'm able to access my all NAS files "on the go" from any internet enabled place on the Earth. Most NAS units can do that, here is an example:
    http://www.buffalo-technology.com/en/technology/our-technology/web-access/

    You don't need to have any particular computer knowledge, to use it, but if you do, then you can set up an VPN connection to your home/work network and have full access to all of your networked devices.

    I'm not going to stop anybody from using cloud service. I'm just showing other options.

    Ya but NO HTTPS secure access. which is a nail in the head for security.


  • #58
    DERICKOO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭DERICKOO


    AlanS181824 wrote: »
    Doesn't the NSA thing only effect those in America? I thought it doesn't effect Europe.

    No we are all under surveillance.


  • #59
    schadenfreude8
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭schadenfreude8


    can you use a backup agent with google drive ? One that scans your selected folder for changes and uploaded newer files, and gives backup report etc?


  • #60
    ecomac
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ecomac


    DERICKOO wrote: »
    Ya but NO HTTPS secure access. which is a nail in the head for security.

    Just read it before commenting:
    "HTTPS is available too in case you need a secure connection"


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  • #61
    Dymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Oat23 wrote: »
    I'm no genius and I have a NAS set up with a 2TB drive in it. I just put the hard drive in and turned it on. Not rocket science. It is easy to set up remote access too.

    Don't understand why anyone would pay a fee per month for a company to host their stuff to be honest. Especially not with google anyway.

    What if someone breaks into your house picks up the server and walks out with it?

    Where is your stuff then, not being smart but just wondering why is this a better solution.


  • #62
    DERICKOO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭DERICKOO


    ecomac wrote: »
    Just read it before commenting:
    "HTTPS is available too in case you need a secure connection"

    Here it states otherwise look under WebAccess Browser (platform independent) not from PC, can you elaborate please. http://www.buffalo-technology.com/fileadmin/buffalo/templates/PDF/120417_WebAcess_A4_01.pdf


  • #63
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    DERICKOO wrote: »
    No we are all under surveillance.

    Are you sure? Wait how exactly are the American Government managing to Spy on other countries?

    I'm so confused!


  • #64
    moodrater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    Hubic looks interesting 10TB for €10 per month, 100gb €1 per month:

    https://hubic.com/en/offers/
    DERICKOO wrote: »
    Here it states otherwise look under WebAccess Browser (platform independent) not from PC, can you elaborate please. http://www.buffalo-technology.com/fileadmin/buffalo/templates/PDF/120417_WebAcess_A4_01.pdf

    Don't encourage him, take it to the hardware forum if you want technical support.
    AlanS181824 wrote: »
    Are you sure? Wait how exactly are the American Government managing to Spy on other countries?

    I'm so confused!

    You have about 60 years of electronic surevillance to catch up on best bet is buy a book. Or if you just want the recent revelations try here:
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/24/richard_clarke_csa_comments/
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/angela_merkel_eu_internet_nsa_us/
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/12/snowden_docs_show_nsas_malware_turbine_can_pump_out_millions_of_malware_attacks/
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12/31/nsa_weapons_catalogue_promises_pwnage_at_the_speed_of_light/
    http://search.theregister.co.uk/?q=nsa


  • #65
    ecomac
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ecomac


    DERICKOO wrote: »
    Here it states otherwise look under WebAccess Browser (platform independent) not from PC, can you elaborate please. http://www.buffalo-technology.com/fileadmin/buffalo/templates/PDF/120417_WebAcess_A4_01.pdf

    HTTPS is an secure access internet protocol built in most of browsers, not in the remote access application itself. Because of this fact it is platform independed. You have to use HTTPS enabled browser to use this protcol, not the app. Can't explain it any clearer. Ask some of the computer geeks from previous posts rather than my humble person.


  • #66
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Ecomac, this still doesn't protect the data in your home however unlikely. Hard drives can fail,even with raid fail safes,that's not going to be of any use if they're subject to flood or fire damage. Or simply burgled. My data is a hell of a lot safer online. If you're concerned about Google spying,encrypt it.


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  • #67
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,586 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    how could you encrypt photos in a google drive?


  • #68
    MaceFace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    Don't know how this thread got so much legs.

    I use GDrive, Dropbox and a NAS (Synology).
    Quite honestly, my Synology DS212 is one of the best pieces of kit I have ever bought. Get so much use out of it. It's not just a NAS you throw files on, but it's a private cloud that synch's with both my GDrive and Dropbox, has RAID 1.

    I don't have to open any ports on my router (but I do anyway) to access it from anywhere in the world. Everyone in the house can have their own access whihc is private from each other. It has a mobile apps for photo player, video player, audio player, file browser and BT/HTTP/BT/NZB.
    It's always on, uses low power, sleeps when not in use and wakes when I need it.
    Can plug in USB DVT-S/C dongles and watch and record TV and watch those recorded shows from any remote device anywhere in the world.
    I can send and receive emails through it, I can use it as a wireless repeater. It stores all my XBMC media info so I can stop a movie in one room and continue from the same place in a different room. I can run a web server from it. CouchPotato etc all work on it.

    The private cloud rocks - it keeps 32 versions of each and every file in my cloud (size not an issue) so I can revert and view any version. There are free upgrades of the software.

    I can plug a simple USB webcam (or get wireless IP cams) into it and it becomes a home monitoring system. It will record any movement it detects and email me a snapshot of the movement. I can log in from my phone anywhere in the world and view my house live or watch any of the recordings.

    That's really just the surface, so a true good quality NAS is not just a simple hard disk that stores files. It can do so much more.
    Yeah, someone can break in and take it. I could also get hit by a bus tomorrow. Chances of either happening are low.

    Saying all that, I still use GDrive and Dropbox. I have no problems about storing my personal files on either. I would not store my work files on GDrive but I have no hesitation about doing it on Dropbox.

    For anyone looking at simple backup of photos/CVs/scanned bills and receipts, either online service works a charm.

    So, none of this is really comparing like with like. Each has their own benefits but as I said, my NAS is the best piece of technology I ever bought.


  • #69
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,368 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Dymo wrote: »
    What if someone breaks into your house picks up the server and walks out with it?

    Where is your stuff then, not being smart but just wondering why is this a better solution.

    Someone getting the login info for your cloud storage account is more likely.


  • #70
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Anyway... T'is a bargain. Thanks OP.


  • #71
    eissboard
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭eissboard


    According to Google's ToS: "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services."

    Data privacy is far more important than how big your cloud storage is. The only way to close the loophole on data privacy is to take a look at where keys are stored. Google Drive uses server side encryption instead of client side encryption. This means the keys are stored on their servers. When you aren’t managing your own keys, you don’t have control over your data.


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  • #72
    T-Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    eissboard wrote: »
    According to Google's ToS: "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services."

    Data privacy is far more important than how big your cloud storage is. The only way to close the loophole on data privacy is to take a look at where keys are stored. Google Drive uses server side encryption instead of client side encryption. This means the keys are stored on their servers. When you aren’t managing your own keys, you don’t have control over your data.

    100% agree. The Hubic option a few posts back is a far better option plus t and c state that you have complete ownership and privacy.


  • #73
    MOH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Throwing Crashplan in as another alternative. Decent prices for unlimited cloud backups, good mobile app for accessing from anywhere, or a free option where you can back up to your own drive anywhere - so swap drives with a mate and back up to each other's house.

    Plus it's not unheard of for Google to lose customer data


  • #74
    ecomac
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ecomac


    eissboard wrote: »
    According to Google's ToS: "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services."

    Data privacy is far more important than how big your cloud storage is. The only way to close the loophole on data privacy is to take a look at where keys are stored. Google Drive uses server side encryption instead of client side encryption. This means the keys are stored on their servers. When you aren’t managing your own keys, you don’t have control over your data.

    What did I say before? Your data with Google is NOT yours anymore. Regardless how insignificant they are. People are giving away their privacy too easily nowdays. And the most shocking part is they are willing to PAY for that!


  • #75
    OU812
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭OU812


    MOH wrote: »
    Throwing Crashplan in as another alternative. Decent prices for unlimited cloud backups, good mobile app for accessing from anywhere, or a free option where you can back up to your own drive anywhere - so swap drives with a mate and back up to each other's house.

    Plus it's not unheard of for Google to lose customer data

    I'll second this. Crashplan is excellent & you can also back up to a local drive with it as well (for speed of recovery)


  • #76
    steveblack
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭steveblack


    The entire section:

    Content license from you11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.


  • #77
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    I used to use CrashPlan but I back up most of my pictures, videos and school work to Google Drive. I'm only using about 10GB out of my 75GB.


  • #78
    trev44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭trev44


    I've used crashplan, Zoolz and dropbox.

    Crashplan is great and love the ability to take a local copy also.

    Zoolz grinds my 1 year old laptop to a halt when active. 30 emails later to tech support im nowhere near a resolution... AVOID

    Dropbox nice and easy.

    hopefully crashplan will drop their prices to compete with Google soon.


  • #79
    quarryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭quarryman


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    What happens if you decide to stop paying Google for whatever reason. Do they give you time to get your data off or just delete/NSA storage it all.


    Good question.


  • #80
    StaticNoise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    If you've reached or exceeded the free storage limit, you won't be able to sync or upload any new files, and syncing between your Google Drive folder and My Drive stops completely. You'll still be able to create Google Docs, since they don't take up any storage space.


  • #81
    madmoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭madmoe


    Hey all,
    May be slightly off topic but I find the Dropbox web interface pitifully slow and I need to do some serious organizing of my flies as I'm gonna drop down from a lot of free storage soon. Has anyone used a good app or website that works fast with the Dropbox service? I know about the Android application but don't find it great. Perhaps there is a nice Chrome extension that is fast and easy to use?

    Thanks,
    M


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  • #82
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    madmoe wrote: »
    Hey all,
    May be slightly off topic but I find the Dropbox web interface pitifully slow and I need to do some serious organizing of my flies as I'm gonna drop down from a lot of free storage soon. Has anyone used a good app or website that works fast with the Dropbox service? I know about the Android application but don't find it great. Perhaps there is a nice Chrome extension that is fast and easy to use?

    Thanks,
    M

    Do you have installed on your PC? It's just a standard Windows explorer interface there.


  • #83
    madmoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭madmoe


    Kenny Logins wrote: »
    Do you have installed on your PC? It's just a standard Windows explorer interface there.

    Ah cool! Now why didn't I think of that mister!

    Cheers :D


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