New Wicklow Town/Rathnew Estates

into_the_wild · 18-08-2020 1:58pm

Could someone please PM me a recommended surveyor in wicklow town? I'm looking to purchase a new build here.

Parkelm · 20-08-2020 3:21pm

into_the_wild wrote: »

Just found out about this group. Hey everyone, my wife and I are interested in moving from Dublin to Wicklow town and are looking at a few new builds there.
At the moment, we have shortlisted Sea scape & Meadow gate. Any feedback (positive or negative) would be appreciated ðŸ˜Š

Hi there,

We bought in Sea Scape last year and really happy with the house and area. Any questions let me know!

Lilo10 · 14-09-2020 4:55pm

2013Lara wrote: »

Both lovely areas. I'd prefer meadow Gate personally as so close to the town and the marlton areas and estates are really lovely. Seascape, the estate is a bit ugly from the road. Houses very grey and dull, concrete jungley. Haven't driven in to see the ones further back from the road. They had long delays in building and the estate agent dealing with them is useless. Meadow Gate is built by a builder who has built multiple estates in the area. I live near sea scape though and love the area.

Ugly from the road? I personally think they are very attractive houses. Also, the views from the estate are absolutely amazing

for once in your life · 14-09-2020 6:45pm

2013Lara wrote: »

Yep I really do think there is way too much grey concrete with the steps etc and the colour the houses are. Personal opinion of course! I'm sure they're gorgeous inside.

You’re in trouble now Lara. You have to watch your Ps and Qs . Lots of people on here and some could live there. Maybe try not to be so harsh

sandyxxx · 10-10-2020 3:11pm

Larsso30 wrote: »

definitely something happening up at Sessile oaks alright i saw the sole digger on saturday. Fingers crossed dbas

Are these still for sale or are they all going to the social?!

dbas · 10-10-2020 9:36pm

sandyxxx wrote: »

Are these still for sale or are they all going to the social?!

I was given my deposit back a few weeks ago after being told the houses were being sold to tuath housing. I've since heard locally that the council took the development over.

sandyxxx · 10-10-2020 10:25pm

dbas wrote: »

I was given my deposit back a few weeks ago after being told the houses were being sold to tuath housing. I've since heard locally that the council took the development over.

LovelyðŸ™„,.....more of just what the town needs!

Baybay · 12-10-2020 12:33am

dbas wrote: »

I was given my deposit back a few weeks ago...

Sorry to hear that. Following the thread over the past while, I know you had a good bit of time invested also. I hope you get or are sorted soon.

dbas · 13-10-2020 2:07pm

Baybay wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. Following the thread over the past while, I know you had a good bit of time invested also. I hope you get or are sorted soon.

Thanks a million. I'm sure we will get something else soon. The market is still very active despite this Covid crap effecting us all. Fingers crossed

Larsso30 · 13-10-2020 8:08pm

dbas wrote: »

I was given my deposit back a few weeks ago after being told the houses were being sold to tuath housing. I've since heard locally that the council took the development over.

Sorry to hear that mate, ****ign disgrace to leave you hanging that long. Shambles of a development

An awful lot of social housing going up, several whole estates.

sandyxxx · 13-10-2020 10:39pm

dbas wrote: »

Thanks a million. I'm sure we will get something else soon. The market is still very active despite this Covid crap effecting us all. Fingers crossed

.....will you stay in the area or go further afield?!

dbas · 14-10-2020 5:30pm

Larsso30 wrote: »

Sorry to hear that mate, ****ign disgrace to leave you hanging that long. Shambles of a development

An awful lot of social housing going up, several whole estates.

A shambles is right. I wouldn't be fully certain that this will end up as social housing. Locals might contradict me here but i don't think a planning application for 28 houses ( phase 1 of circa 200 houses) would have been accepted if it was for social housing.

In Dublin the plan is to integrate social housing rather than bunching them altogether.
It's hard to say for certain what will come of it. Hope it doesn't remain an eyesore on the hill for too long though. that mountain of shale is appalling to look at

dbas · 14-10-2020 5:33pm

sandyxxx wrote: »

.....will you stay in the area or go further afield?!

Fell in love with the town a few years back. Can't see us ever moving out of here if I'm honest.

there's plenty of other options for houses in the town. Some lovely houses over towards the lighthouse. We'll have our own home in the town within 6 months i'd say

sandyxxx · 14-10-2020 5:43pm

dbas wrote: »

Fell in love with the town a few years back. Can't see us ever moving out of here if I'm honest.

there's plenty of other options for houses in the town. Some lovely houses over towards the lighthouse. We'll have our own home in the town within 6 months i'd say

.....good stuff,best of luck with it!

Moliform · 23-12-2020 12:29am

Hi there, interested in buying
In Wicklow Town soon. Did a drive into Seascape earlier today and loved it. For anyone living in the estate, how are you finding it now? See from thread a lot of issues with delays and getting in, hope all resolved! Is broadband etc okay? Will work from home post-Covid. Does anyone know of other estates launching in early 2021? Most others on daft seem to have sold out. We’re looking for a 4-bed.
Any info much appreciated!

Sandiindia · 19-01-2021 10:20pm

Hello All,
We are looking to buy house at Sea Scape, I would appreciate any feedback from people who are living there. Or know the area that can help me take a decision. I see mixed reviews however when I visited I like the show house and the area as well.
Any suggestions, comments or feedback would be highly appreciated
Thanks a million
Cheers
Sandi

Panjandrums · 06-02-2021 11:26pm

dbas wrote: »

A shambles is right. I wouldn't be fully certain that this will end up as social housing. Locals might contradict me here but i don't think a planning application for 28 houses ( phase 1 of circa 200 houses) would have been accepted if it was for social housing.

It's 100% social housing, unclear if it's the council or an approved housing body yet.

The planning file is a complete shambles aswell. Having gone through thousands of applications in the past decade. This application certainly gave the most entertainment. The correspondence from the 24th of August 2020 is where the gold is at.

Panjandrums · 06-02-2021 11:49pm

Moliform wrote: »

Does anyone know of other estates launching in early 2021?

Good question, there isn't alot of building go on in the town but the majority of them is social housing.

I expect Tinakilly Park and Birstlewood to make a proper start on site in the second half of 2021.

I'm a bit surprised to see Mariners Point advertised as "New Builds" on Daft, they must be built 12 years at this stage. I'm certain the heat pumps have been retrofitted and badly retrofitted at that. The water ponding on the rear elevated patio would also give me 0% in the quality of the construction.

According to the Irish Times, the rest of Mariners Point with 23 incomplete house bases is yours for 1.75 million. Not sure why they mentioned the 23 bases as they will have to be demoed out , at an additional cost to the purchaser.

johnny_don · 10-02-2021 5:48pm

Hey, great to hear that the house was better than expected. We are hoping to move in (covid dependent) by the end of summer. Might see you around the estate

dbas · 10-02-2021 8:54pm

Panjandrums wrote: »

It's 100% social housing, unclear if it's the council or an approved housing body yet.

The planning file is a complete shambles aswell. Having gone through thousands of applications in the past decade. This application certainly gave the most entertainment. The correspondence from the 24th of August 2020 is where the gold is at.

They went in for revised planning to do away with the steps to the entrance of the estate and and a few other cost cuts.
I heard a rumours locally that some from the estate next door are moving in as some of those houses are very damp

dbas · 10-02-2021 9:05pm

Sandiindia wrote: »

Hello All,
We are looking to buy house at Sea Scape, I would appreciate any feedback from people who are living there. Or know the area that can help me take a decision. I see mixed reviews however when I visited I like the show house and the area as well.
Any suggestions, comments or feedback would be highly appreciated
Thanks a million
Cheers
Sandi

We are looking at a house in there. Area is nice enough. Very close to schools and enough shops. Plenty to do within your 5km limit. We're living in wicklow the last two and a half years now. Lovely town

Larsso30 · 10-02-2021 11:22pm

dbas wrote: »

We are looking at a house in there. Area is nice enough. Very close to schools and enough shops. Plenty to do within your 5km limit. We're living in wicklow the last two and a half years now. Lovely town

Would agree with this, live close by myself. Never tire of the views of the sea! Love the town and I'm born and bred in dublin till I move up a few years ago.

Hopefully wicklow town develops to coincide with the amount of houses being built!

dbas · 11-02-2021 2:21pm

Larsso30 wrote: »

Would agree with this, live close by myself. Never tire of the views of the sea! Love the town and I'm born and bred in dublin till I move up a few years ago.

Hopefully wicklow town develops to coincide with the amount of houses being built!

There'll be lots of new houses built in keatingstown between wicklow and rathnew over the next ten years. The infrastructure is already in place for more houses to be built. The main stumbling blocks as I see it is traffic on m11 and the lack of a twin train track south of Bray.
Crime rates are tiny / non existent compared to Dublin

dbas · 19-02-2021 9:19pm

Panjandrums wrote: »

It's 100% social housing, unclear if it's the council or an approved housing body yet.

The planning file is a complete shambles aswell. Having gone through thousands of applications in the past decade. This application certainly gave the most entertainment. The correspondence from the 24th of August 2020 is where the gold is at.

Don't know if you're on LinkedIn but you might recognise some pictures from this post

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tuath-housing-association_departmentofhousing-homes-construction-activity-6768560216515629056-QchY

Panjandrums · 19-02-2021 10:15pm

dbas wrote: »

Don't know if you're on LinkedIn but you might recognise some pictures from this post

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tuath-housing-association_departmentofhousing-homes-construction-activity-6768560216515629056-QchY

Good spot.
I'm surprised Tuath didn't do away with the porch and rendered band around the ground floor window. They're building gossip walls on semis which makes no sense.

There's at least 2 houses in second row with render on and scaffold dropped but no windows or doors in. A self builder with no building experience wouldn't even do that. Another reason to have no confidence.

If memory serves me right they stripped ground in May 2017 and got started late 2018 it will be Q2 2022 before they are off site.

dbas · 19-02-2021 10:27pm

Panjandrums wrote: »

Good spot.
I'm surprised Tuath didn't do away with the porch and rendered band around the ground floor window. They're building gossip walls on semis which makes no sense.

There's at least 2 houses in second row with render on and scaffold dropped but no windows or doors in. A self builder with no building experience wouldn't even do that. Another reason to have no confidence.

If memory serves me right they stripped ground in May 2017 and got started late 2018 it will be Q2 2022 before they are off site.

That sounds about right. The flooding out on the road in the rain is terrible.
We viewed the house nearest the gate around last May.
Very poor finish inside and the houses on the back row are around 4-5 metres lower than the plans indicate.
They are a bunch of chancers whoever is building it. Brendan Kelly is one name of a builder involved in it.
Seems to be a lot of money being spent on the site all the same. It stinks

Panjandrums · 19-02-2021 11:45pm

dbas wrote: »

That sounds about right. The flooding out on the road in the rain is terrible.
We viewed the house nearest the gate around last May.
Very poor finish inside and the houses on the back row are around 4-5 metres lower than the plans indicate.
They are a bunch of chancers whoever is building it. Brendan Kelly is one name of a builder involved in it.
Seems to be a lot of money being spent on the site all the same. It stinks

In fairness to them the flooding on the road was worse before they started. There was a massive flow of runoff/storm out of the site for the last month luckily it was going straight into a gully in the dip of the road.

I can only imagine what the finish was like. The finished floor levels (FFL) are not correct but they are not 4/5 meters off which would put the first and second row level.

I have a few names of those involved and from what I can see none of them have any involvement in construction.

I'm sure Castlehaven (finance company) are delighted to see the development sold to Tuath as they can finally get the money back.

The current developer has a masterplan for circa 200 more units on attached lands but I suspect it will be another decade before a different developer provides more houses on the lands.

dbas · 20-02-2021 12:25am

Panjandrums wrote: »

In fairness to them the flooding on the road was worse before they started. There was a massive flow of runoff/storm out of the site for the last month luckily it was going straight into a gully in the dip of the road.

I can only imagine what the finish was like. The finished floor levels (FFL) are not correct but they are not 4/5 meters off which would put the first and second row level.

I have a few names of those involved and from what I can see none of them have any involvement in construction.

I'm sure Castlehaven (finance company) are delighted to see the development sold to Tuath as they can finally get the money back.

The current developer has a masterplan for circa 200 more units on attached lands but I suspect it will be another decade before a different developer provides more houses on the lands.

Surely the current developer wouldn't get permission for another development after this fiasco, and his comrade's email exchange saved onto the planning application!

That masterplan did look very good all the same.

Estate agents in the town were telling us years ago that those houses in Sessile Oaks would never be built due to issues with the site. I put it down to sales talk. If only I'd listened.

We're looking at Seascape out on the Keatingstown road now. Lovely houses- nice finish

Moliform · 16-03-2021 3:45pm

Does anyone know what is planned for the land beside Seascape? Is it just more residential or nothing yet?

dbas · 16-03-2021 4:34pm

It depends on what way the land is zoned.
I would imagine it would all be residential though.

lollz6397 · 14-09-2021 12:14pm

Hi all, I'm wondering if any of you have purchased houses from latest phases of Seascape on the Keatingstown Road.

Signed contracts almost a year ago now and due to Covid building was delayed considerably.

Communication from the developer has been abysmal with vague dates for snag.

Just wondering if there's anyone in the same boat? Feeling fed up at this stage!

Cheers x

ofthelord · 16-09-2021 3:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116599604#Comment_116599604

hi - there are planning permission signs up on this land now. for something like c.80 houses along with a creche and I think some apartments. from reading the planning permission sign last night it seems that they are going to use all the land from Seascape down to the roundabout at the bottom of the road to the side of teh Kirvin hill estate

Reuben1210 · 26-09-2021 8:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900025#Comment_117900025

Link to application here

johnny-don · 06-10-2021 2:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117889150#Comment_117889150

Hi @lollz6397 , we have also purchased a house from the last phase as well. The developers have been useless in passing on information to us. We have talked to the builders on site a few times and they reckon that we should be in by March next year but I doubt it. Apparently supplies and trades people are hard to come by.

Panjandrums · 30-11-2021 9:44pm

What is the starting price for Tinakilly Park?

raxy · 02-12-2021 6:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118247745#Comment_118247745

I asked the prices around July & was told 350k for a 3 bed & 450k for 4 beds, I haven't seen any official prices though. They sold some off the plans in August. I was told there would be show houses in November but never heard anything about them so I don't know if they went ahead.

Darragh88 · 15-12-2021 6:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117983722#Comment_117983722

Hi @johnny-don @lollz6397 Just wondering if either or you had any further feedback from anyone at the developer? I was due to snag two weeks ago but was told the property wasn't going to be fully complete so cancelled the inspection. Have been chasing for two weeks now for a new completion date but no reply. No response to any emails and the office phone number does not appear to be connected. Any info you might have would be great.

Thanks!

dbas · 07-01-2022 2:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118326969#Comment_118326969

Hi Darragh88. I currently live in Seascape and I would suggest that you employ a very good engineer to snag the house. It may cost around €1000 for such a detailed service but it would be worth it in the long run. They are very slow on site and some of the houses had some water damage during they latest storm.

Panjandrums · 26-01-2022 1:52pm

Sesille Oaks is now up for sale as of today! Signs are up at the estate and ads on Daft.

An indepth report by a building surveyor would be prudent, and not just by a paint and curtains snagger.

One would wonder what's wrong.

Larsso30 · 26-01-2022 4:38pm

Just came on her to post this. Does this mean it's no longer going social housing route or is it a mix?

dbas · 27-01-2022 9:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118535005#Comment_118535005

So tuath housing have walked away it seems.. We waited on one of those houses for years before getting our deposit back.

They were poor quality when we viewed it.

Unbelievable price for those 4 beds. They are a small house.

They will be snapped up unfortunately

Lex_Luthor · 27-01-2022 1:53pm

I was thinking that Sessile Oaks was a decent price given the market the way it is and how close to Wicklow Town. Was it planned for social housing? Is the build quality poor? Area not okay?

Coming to this tread later and read back over some comments but can't understand exactly what the isues are with it.

Baybay · 27-01-2022 4:55pm

Originally Sessile Oaks was to have been built as a private estate & then was said to have been handed over for social housing. The development was started maybe four or five years ago, maybe a little longer. I have no idea to the legals or quality of build etc but it just seems to be taking quite some time to complete.

dbas · 27-01-2022 8:42pm

The fact that they are fully finished, alarms installed etc etc suddenly coming to market again is a bit strange.

I'd love to know someone in tuath housing so I could get the back story to it, if any.

My advice to anyone who is considering buying one is to get a complete survey done on the building. No €200 box ticker snaggers

sandyxxx · 27-01-2022 11:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118535005#Comment_118535005

....was wondering same myself!.....in other news PP has gone in for a phase of 81 units beside the rugby club....

Creamy Goodness · 28-01-2022 9:13am

I remember going to see one (drive by didn't go inside) of these 4 years ago, they were in an advance stage of completion. I'd definitely would be asking tough questions and getting the best surveyor your money can stretch to.

Lex_Luthor · 28-01-2022 10:24am

Thanks for the responses. I would be getting a good surveyor no matter where I would buy. From Dublin, living abroad at the moment and looking to move home. Not the best time to be looking to buy though 😬

Dublin is preferable but prices too high or no value to be had.

Starting to look just outside Dublin but somewhere that is not too far from public transport as I don't drive. If I move back I would learn of course.

Tinakilly Park looks nice. Any information on them?

coco178 · 28-01-2022 12:35pm

We are looking to buy in Wicklow at the moment. Prices too good to be true for Sessile Oaks and on further inspection of the location it seems to be not great. We are hoping to buy in the next phase of Tinakilly Park. Should be launching mid to end of Feb. Really difficult time to buy which is typical of our luck 🙄 4 bed detached starting from around 450k I believe

Lex_Luthor · 28-01-2022 1:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118544761#Comment_118544761

Agreed, Sessile Oaks seems too good to be true!

Just can't see things changing anytime soon, so just go to go with it me thinks. It's a problem all around Europe now, especially closer to cities. So much demand and little supply. However the renting issue isn't as bad as it is in Ireland, even if it is challenging!

450k is expensive but when you break it down by price per sqm, it's not too bad for a new build with it being close to Wicklow Town. I would be interested in a 3 bed myself, 2 if they were doing them!

cheesypuffs · 28-01-2022 3:20pm

New to this discussion but went looking for something on sessile oaks and lo, there is much to behold. Only heard of it when it came up on daft this week and thought it looked too good to be true also, which prompted me to Boards it. Will continue with viewing but I have a distinct impression of buyer beware, so thanks to all of you who have provided good info on it. Especially Dbas, sounds like you went through a lot but glad to see you're settled elsewhere. If anything comes of our viewing, will let ye know but would prefer Tinakilly based on what I've read here.

New Wicklow Town/Rathnew Estates

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