Tottenham Hotspur Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2024/25

Kiith · 19-06-2020 10:05pm

And again. Absolute bollox!

Kiith · 19-06-2020 10:06pm

If that's given, VAR is a ****ing joke.

As it should have been.

tom1ie · 19-06-2020 10:06pm

No peno.

Kiith · 19-06-2020 10:06pm

Where's the yellow card though?

Charliebull · 19-06-2020 10:06pm

Aurier is a lucky boy

MonkieSocks · 19-06-2020 10:06pm

Never a pen :mad:

Kiith · 19-06-2020 10:12pm

I'll take the point, but a stupid mistake costing us once again. Dier was actually pretty good at CB today, but should be called up on that "tackle".

Sissoko MOTM (for Spurs anyway) for me.

2nd Row Donkey · 19-06-2020 10:13pm

Kiith wrote:

I'll take the point, but a stupid mistake costing us once again. Dier was actually pretty good at CB today, but should be called up on that "tackle".

Agreed, he was doing well up until then

Kiith wrote:

Sissoko MOTM (for Spurs anyway) for me.

Same here, good to see him back.

2nd Row Donkey · 19-06-2020 10:15pm

Still 8th place, if results don't go our way this weekend we could be 10th.
Despite a reasonable performance that's seriously depressing.

Glebee · 19-06-2020 10:16pm

Utd were the better team, take a point and move on. Very sluggish and out on our feet at the end. Good test I suppose. Did we have any clear chances outher than the goal and Sons header?

Kiith · 19-06-2020 10:17pm

Draw doesn't really help us, as i really think we need max points to have any chance of CL, but it was a decent performance. Defensively solid for the most part, which is a big improvement over what we've seen in the last few games. Bergwijn looked very good, and good to see Kane get 90 minutes (even if it wasn't a game that suited him at all).

If we can play like that against West Ham, we should win that.

19-06-2020 10:21pm

i hate serge aurier with a passion that frightens me

every other player in the team should be banging the managers door down demanding he never get the shirt again

he has total contempt for the team and their efforts.

Ormus · 19-06-2020 10:25pm

Jose had us set up for a draw even at 1-0 up

joeguevara · 19-06-2020 10:25pm

Lads, a draw is ok. Results will be a bit crazy. Kane and son can only get better. United were good in second half but only one decent shot which loris saved.

How the second penalty was given is bizarre. Thank god for VAR. my opinion is we have a much better chance of CL now than before Covid. Pogba and greenwood changed United. Gedson is poor and needs to step up.

See what happens for rest of weekend. But it’s great that we are back. And good to have the banter with ye again. The premier league thread is pretty toxic. Enjoy your weekend.

Charliebull · 19-06-2020 10:26pm

Yes agree Aurier is terrible terrible player

Equium · 19-06-2020 10:35pm

Surely there is someone in the youth sides who is better than Aurier. Could they honestly do worse? He really is a car crash footballer and for me probably the worst full back in the Premier League. Even at the end he stopped playing and was claiming a throw-in whilst his opponent ran up the wing into acres of space.

joeguevara · 19-06-2020 11:41pm

Equium wrote: »

Surely there is someone in the youth sides who is better than Aurier. Could they honestly do worse? He really is a car crash footballer and for me probably the worst full back in the Premier League. Even at the end he stopped playing and was claiming a throw-in whilst his opponent ran up the wing into acres of space.

He is rated 7 here https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/19/tottenham-vs-manchester-united-player-ratings-harry-kane-pace/

He is rated 6 here and called disciplined in defence

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-vs-manchester-united-result-player-ratings-score-goals-epl-table-a9576661.html

Rated 7 here and given assist for goal

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12010636/tottenham-1-1-man-utd-player-ratings-bruno-fernandes-and-paul-pogba-impress-in-eventful-draw

20-06-2020 12:04am

those ratings can ask my arse, joe

he gave the ball away in really poor areas without any need time and again, leaving us under pressure right when we needed to hold on and pin united back a bit

he, davies and lamela were absolutely appalling in this regard tonight.

davies: hit united every pass, leaving us open to a few counters. had to foul when caught as has pace of a tractor.

lamela: game as usual, good energy, good attitude. tackled like an idiot and wasted three great chances to release players beyond uniteds line.

aurier: took men on time and again advancing from right back when it was clear hed lose it. happened several times. left sissoko and sanchez to bail him out time and again. ambled back more than once after being beaten. typically poor in attack.

we will never improve while boosting the players that drag this team down, and especially not by defending aurier in particular, who never seems to me to give two sh1ts that he is letting down his team, his club, himself.

the kind of feckless clown that it sickens me to see make it as a professional footballer when he has zero heart or sense of how lucky it makes him.

i hate him. if jose gets the sack in the summer he will deserve it for that lad ever getting a second game under him. a second *half*.

and levy deserves sacking if he hires another manager who considers picking him.

a guy like that is cancerous to a unit. absolute trash.

joeguevara · 20-06-2020 2:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

those ratings can ask my arse, joe

he gave the ball away in really poor areas without any need time and again, leaving us under pressure right when we needed to hold on and pin united back a bit

he, davies and lamela were absolutely appalling in this regard tonight.

davies: hit united every pass, leaving us open to a few counters. had to foul when caught as has pace of a tractor.

lamela: game as usual, good energy, good attitude. tackled like an idiot and wasted three great chances to release players beyond uniteds line.

aurier: took men on time and again advancing from right back when it was clear hed lose it. happened several times. left sissoko and sanchez to bail him out time and again. ambled back more than once after being beaten. typically poor in attack.

we will never improve while boosting the players that drag this team down, and especially not by defending aurier in particular, who never seems to me to give two sh1ts that he is letting down his team, his club, himself.

the kind of feckless clown that it sickens me to see make it as a professional footballer when he has zero heart or sense of how lucky it makes him.

i hate him. if jose gets the sack in the summer he will deserve it for that lad ever getting a second game under him. a second *half*.

and levy deserves sacking if he hires another manager who considers picking him.

a guy like that is cancerous to a unit. absolute trash.

As you know I am quite forgiving and only really look at attacking. I think he can be good going forward but agree he is a header defensively. Who would you have instead. What happened that youth player who was class but was shown up in city match. Dier made good tackles but is a liability. Is Toby injured.

Loris was nervous but made a good save.

But I do think sometimes people only see the bad things. I remember the stuff posted about Sissoko when I thought he was class.

First match back and draw against a team that has whipped us before. Arsenal lost. See what happens in next few days. I think city appeal will make or break us. If they lose it we will qualify for CL.

Charliebull · 20-06-2020 9:21am

I have to agree with snoop, Aurier is awful, that ball he lost for Utd second non penalty was school boy stuff
Needs to be sent packing
Lamela tried and gave everything but he cannot find that final pass, 3 times last night he could have put son and Kane tru,
Davies is a squad player, a good honest pro but....
Why we persist with winks, I will never know, he gets found out all the time in the big games, again a squad player but not for the big games
Either play ndombele or sell him, we need go forward from midfield and he can give us that
I cannot understand why we didn’t sign Fernandes when we had the chance
Based in last night game utd have passed us out lads

Ormus · 20-06-2020 9:38am

I thought Lamela had a good game last night. He made some bad decisions as usual, but he also put in some great tackles, hassled the hell out of United and ran himself into the ground. He’s not good enough to be a regular, but he’s a vital squad player.

joeguevara · 20-06-2020 9:45am

Ormus wrote: »

I thought Lamela had a good game last night. He made some bad decisions as usual, but he also put in some great tackles, hassled the hell out of United and ran himself into the ground. He’s not good enough to be a regular, but he’s a vital squad player.

I think Lamela is up there with son as being the heart and soul of the team. Always gives his best and looks like he bleeds Lilly white. He is nuts and always seems to be getting in trouble with wild tackles. But more often than not inspires the team and create attacks and chances. I get what you are saying that he doesn’t guarantee a place but that is more to do with injuries than skill. Who would you have ahead of him if both were fully fit and on form. His relationship and interplay with lo Celso has them guaranteed starters for me.

Ormus · 20-06-2020 10:04am

joeguevara wrote: »

I think Lamela is up there with son as being the heart and soul of the team. Always gives his best and looks like he bleeds Lilly white. He is nuts and always seems to be getting in trouble with wild tackles. But more often than not inspires the team and create attacks and chances. I get what you are saying that he doesn’t guarantee a place but that is more to do with injuries than skill. Who would you have ahead of him if both were fully fit and on form. His relationship and interplay with lo Celso has them guaranteed starters for me.

I’d have Bergwijn, GLC and Son as our attacking 3 behind Kane

joeguevara · 20-06-2020 10:06am

Ormus wrote: »

I’d have Bergwijn, GLC and Son as our attacking 3 behind Kane

Presumably sissoko as midfielder. Who is the last player

Glebee · 20-06-2020 10:27am

Sanchez is a disaster waiting to happen as well. Hes header clearance for Utd first chance was all sorts of stupid. Aurier even had a go at him for it.Does he realsie hes an international footballer??? Columbia must be badly stuck. Thaought Dier done ok until than lazy penalty tackle, if it was even a tackle more of a tiered lunge.

Ormus · 20-06-2020 2:46pm

joeguevara wrote: »

Presumably sissoko as midfielder. Who is the last player

I’d have two out of Winks, Sissoko and Ndombele.

Charliebull · 20-06-2020 3:26pm

bergwin, son, ali, le celso and moura are ahead of lamela

I like lamela and he gives us everything but he is a squad player or impact sub, he lacks that killer pass

dier to be fair played well, ok the peno was stupid but he got sucked out trying to cover davies and then pogba done him

sissoko and ndombele should be given a crack in centre mid

last night was a better performance, but we are seriously short in middle of the park, we need a player who can drive into the opposition and put us on the front foot

joeguevara · 20-06-2020 4:59pm

It helps us that Leicester dropped points and arsenal lose two on the bounce. I never thought I would ever say this but hope West Ham win. Newcastle could be buoyed by the prospect of being a spending powerhouse beat Sheffield and if Villa need a win it’s tomorrow and beat Chelsea. Am I dreaming

2nd Row Donkey · 20-06-2020 11:30pm

With Palace winning well today and Burnley having a game in hand we really have teams breathing down our necks. At least Brighton done us a favour today and a top half finish should be secured in the next couple of games.

The remainder of the season should be used with a look to next season... Give dbombele a run in midfield alongside Sissoko. Can Dier play CB long term? Start Lo Celso every game and I'd like to see more focus on Berjwin.

2nd Row Donkey · 20-06-2020 11:30pm

With Palace winning well today and Burnley having a game in hand we really have teams breathing down our necks. At least Brighton done us a favour today and a top half finish should be secured in the next couple of games.

The remainder of the season should be used with a look to next season... Give dbombele a run in midfield alongside Sissoko. Can Dier play CB long term? Start Lo Celso every game and I'd like to see more focus on Berjwin.

joeguevara · 20-06-2020 11:50pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

With Palace winning well today and Burnley having a game in hand we really have teams breathing down our necks. At least Brighton done us a favour today and a top half finish should be secured in the next couple of games.

The remainder of the season should be used with a look to next season... Give dbombele a run in midfield alongside Sissoko. Can Dier play CB long term? Start Lo Celso every game and I'd like to see more focus on Berjwin.

I really like what I see on Berjwin. He was class in Holland but as we all know that doesn’t often translate to premiership. I remember ndombele scoring a cracker first game of season against Villa. But then he had the big falling out with Jose. But then Jose was taking him for individual training during lockdown so hopefully relationship mended.

I would love to see Delle back to his best. He was on a trajectory to be world class but then his temperament wasn’t great and hasn’t been the player he should be for ages. But when he is on form I think he is amazing.

I think I have mentioned before, I have doubts about Son and Kane playing together. They never seem to gel and each are superior in the team without the other. Hopefully with lo Celso and berjwin they can find the correct positioning, they are both amazing.

I think I am coming close to admitting that we need 3/4s of a new defence.

joeguevara · 21-06-2020 3:17pm

Whatever has happened Sheffield United, they are a different team in the second half and seem to be lethargic and rusty, Newcastle capitalise on this and leading 1 nil after 58 minutes. Fingers crossed they can push on and that will be a other rival dropping points. Not counting chickens but it looks good.

abff · 21-06-2020 5:04pm

The question is, do we want to qualify for the Europa League? Champions League would be great, but looking increasingly unlikely. So, would a season without midweek European matches be a chance to regroup and maybe start challenging for top four again?

joeguevara · 21-06-2020 7:07pm

abff wrote: »

The question is, do we want to qualify for the Europa League? Champions League would be great, but looking increasingly unlikely. So, would a season without midweek European matches be a chance to regroup and maybe start challenging for top four again?

Europa League is a nightmare. Seems to be never ending with away matches to the far ends of the continent. It also isn’t worth that much money. The kicker is though if you win it you qualify for CL, which could be worthwhile depending on the league position.

However, I disagree that CL qualification is looking increasingly unlikely. As I posted previously, it is dependent on whether City’s ban remains. If it does, then 5th is very gettable. Leicester dropped points. Sheffield United dripped points, United and us dropped them. Chelsea and wolves gained. We need a run, but Kane and Son can only improve. Hopefully we can do it. I’m hoping everyone is a lot more hopeful than ye were prior to the Lockdown.

greenspurs · 22-06-2020 10:41am

Vertonghen and Vorm have agreed extensions until the end of the season.

greenspurs · 23-06-2020 10:59am

The Hams cup final tonight .

Jose has a full squad to chose from.
Will be interesting to see if Ndombele gets a start/run ?
Will Alli be back in.
Will Jan & Toby return?

We need to beat this lot, and keep them in the bottom 3 ….

joeguevara · 23-06-2020 11:10am

West Ham were very poor at the Weekend.

Tottenham back to full team. First time since Jose joined has he had all attacking players to choose from Expect to win but WH play 3000% better against us than any other team.

23-06-2020 11:55am

form doesnt matter for two reasons

i. they raise their game for us

ii. teams dont beat us by playing well. they just sit back and wait for the mistake.

prediction: aurier to let us down again all game and the stress of covering for him will ensure our other defenders endure a torrid time.

lloris had a very good game the last night, so he'll throw one in and all.

lamela will pass the ball directly to the opposition twelve times and i will still have to listen to praise for his effort.

2-1 loss

joeguevara · 23-06-2020 11:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

form doesnt matter for two reasons

i. they raise their game for us

ii. teams dont beat us by playing well. they just sit back and wait for the mistake.

prediction: aurier to let us down again all game and the stress of covering for him will ensure our other defenders endure a torrid time.

lloris had a very good game the last night, so he'll throw one in and all.

lamela will pass the ball directly to the opposition twelve times and i will still have to listen to praise for his effort.

2-1 loss

3-1 victory for us. Aurier with an assist. Delle and Kane brace.

23-06-2020 11:57am

im the yin to your yang joe :-)

Charliebull · 23-06-2020 2:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

im the yin to your yang joe :-)

please this is a family tread

what you do with Joes yang is your own business;)

23-06-2020 2:40pm

my gawd some people just live in the gutter eh

joeguevara · 23-06-2020 2:40pm

Charliebull wrote: »

please this is a family tread

what you do with Joes yang is your own business;)

Well my nickname is Bronze, because I always come third.

Charliebull · 23-06-2020 2:44pm

anyway back to basics

can see us winning tonight but I dont know if I can watch Aurier for 90 mins

Lamela has to start on bench and I d love to see ndombele get 90 mins

Glebee · 23-06-2020 3:15pm

1-0 Spurs.

davycc · 23-06-2020 7:41pm

Line up.
Lorris
Aurier Sanchez Dier Davies
Sissouko lo celso
Moura Alli son
Kane

Coys!

davycc · 23-06-2020 7:50pm

Decent enough bench imo.
Gazza Toby Jan winks Ndomble sessingon Lamela Fernandez Bergwjin.

23-06-2020 8:22pm

two nothing crosses and we're all at sea each time

ugh

23-06-2020 8:26pm

aurier, our right back, offside from a sweeping pass from the back there

this is stupidity for the sake of stupidity

drop this fool and get anyone in who we dont have to accommodate, the world is full of right backs who can do a decent job.

why have we got to get clever about the basics ffs

Glebee · 23-06-2020 8:34pm

What a ball by Sanchez.... not. WTF sort of pass was that.

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