Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

CtevenSrowder · 11-01-2020 2:29pm

Brian? wrote: »

Fair enough, I’ve lost my wager. The skepticism is because people on Twitter lie all the time to make themselves look smart and edgy.

“Chizzled square jawed athletic individuals”? Why is the shape of anyone’s jaw important.

Don’t you know Antifa are violent thugs, who are paradoxically weaklings and cowards? They’re also a masked menace who are effeminate beta males, because they drink too many soy lattes.

As a stereotypical alpha, I find this all very confusing. In my simplistic view of the world it’s peoples ideas and actions I judge them by and not their appearance.

Alright we've all been to the gym pal!

CtevenSrowder · 11-01-2020 2:30pm

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

You've got to do better than Ngo. He is a complete an utter fraud and far right activist at best.

Have you any evidence that those tweets are untrue?

SaintLeibowitz · 11-01-2020 2:35pm

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Have you any evidence that those tweets are untrue?

Nope, but I know who Andy Ngo is and I know he has a consistent history of fraudulent claims. As I said in the post you quoted he's a far right activist at best.

CtevenSrowder · 11-01-2020 3:00pm

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

Nope, but I know who Andy Ngo is and I know he has a consistent history of fraudulent claims. As I said in the post you quoted he's a far right activist at best.

He isn't a far right activist. Like anyone in America who "takes-on" the far-left progressive loons they get labelleed far-right.

Even Joe Rogan has been labelled as far-right and a gate-way to alt-right.

MonkeyTennis · 11-01-2020 3:57pm

he writes for Quillette FFS

silverharp · 11-01-2020 4:37pm

Brian? wrote: »

Fair enough, I’ve lost my wager. The skepticism is because people on Twitter lie all the time to make themselves look smart and edgy.

“Chizzled square jawed athletic individuals”? Why is the shape of anyone’s jaw important.

Don’t you know Antifa are violent thugs, who are paradoxically weaklings and cowards? They’re also a masked menace who are effeminate beta males, because they drink too many soy lattes.

As a stereotypical alpha, I find this all very confusing. In my simplistic view of the world it’s peoples ideas and actions I judge them by and not their appearance.

I kind of feel sorry for them, I don't rate them as a political force but I would say that individually they probably tend to have some issues, and their larping as Antifa is an outlet of sorts. they could still be dangerous in a group.

SaintLeibowitz · 11-01-2020 5:48pm

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

He isn't a far right activist. Like anyone in America who "takes-on" the far-left progressive loons they get labelleed far-right.

Even Joe Rogan has been labelled as far-right and a gate-way to alt-right.

I'm afraid your quite ignorant of Andy Ngo so.

SaintLeibowitz · 11-01-2020 5:49pm

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

he writes for Quillette FFS

He doesn't anymore. They let him go after the video emerged of him hanging with a far right group before the far right group attacked people in a bar.

silverharp · 11-01-2020 8:31pm

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

I'm afraid your quite ignorant of Andy Ngo so.

i know next to nothing about him, i just see his tweets retweeted from time to time, I only heard of him after Antifa beat him up for no reason,I assume he was reporting at the time. The guy is Asian and gay if I remember so ill guess he is definitely anti-Antifa but pro antifascism.
if he is a bad person, what is the worst view he has expressed? but actual video or text he has written, not the hallucinations of someone that doesn't like him

20Cent · 11-01-2020 9:01pm

silverharp wrote: »

i know next to nothing about him, i just see his tweets retweeted from time to time, I only heard of him after Antifa beat him up for no reason,I assume he was reporting at the time. The guy is Asian and gay if I remember so ill guess he is definitely anti-Antifa but pro antifascism.
if he is a bad person, what is the worst view he has expressed? but actual video or text he has written, not the hallucinations of someone that doesn't like him

He's been fired or let go from almost every publication he's worked for. He often lies to his audience even where there is video evidence to the contrary, he is a bad faith actor in all this. Even pretended to have a brain injury to get money off people.

AllForIt · 11-01-2020 9:25pm

I was watching a Sky News report over the xmas which followed a few of the Extinction Rebellion protesters, and it struck me they all have activist type look about them. There were not chiseled jaw types, no muscle jock types, no rugby types, no beer bellied football hooligan types, but all wafer thin gaunt skull head types of a decidedly middle-class background.

exhibit a: Skull head
https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/1600x900/skynews-dr-bing-jones-extinction-rebellion_4836550.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191114174057

exhibit b: wafer thin with added hipster look and proud ginger
https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/1600x900/skynews-extinction-rebellion_4836949.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191114233755

exhibit c: middle class with added cartoon persona
https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/1600x900/skynews-extinction-rebellion_4836568.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191114175306

Taken from here for the evidence Nazi's - https://news.sky.com/story/inside-extinction-rebellion-two-months-embedded-with-climate-change-protesters-11861321

So, anyone who thinks there is noting to be read into the appearance of these types or thinks there are no issues of psychology going on here, really does have a very simplistic view of the world.

As for the mug shot of the Antifa gang posted earlier - they give me the impression of the type that have spent too much time alone in their bedroom playing computer games for hours and fantasizing they're characters in a Batman Movie. And the only who are willing to be their friends - are ppl exactly like them.

Brian? · 11-01-2020 9:44pm

AllForIt wrote: »

I was watching a Sky News report over the xmas which followed a few of the Extinction Rebellion protesters, and it struck me they all have activist type look about them. There were not chiseled jaw types, no muscle jock types, no rugby types, no beer bellied football hooligan types, but all wafer thin gaunt skull head types of a decidedly middle-class background.

exhibit a: Skull head
https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/1600x900/skynews-dr-bing-jones-extinction-rebellion_4836550.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191114174057

exhibit b: wafer thin with added hipster look and proud ginger
https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/1600x900/skynews-extinction-rebellion_4836949.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191114233755

exhibit c: middle class with added cartoon persona
https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/1600x900/skynews-extinction-rebellion_4836568.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191114175306

Taken from here for the evidence Nazi's - https://news.sky.com/story/inside-extinction-rebellion-two-months-embedded-with-climate-change-protesters-11861321

So, anyone who thinks there is noting to be read into the appearance of these types or thinks there are no issues of psychology going on here, really does have a very simplistic view of the world.

As for the mug shot of the Antifa gang posted earlier - they give me the impression of the type that have spent too much time alone in their bedroom playing computer games for hours and fantasizing they're characters in a Batman Movie. And the only who are willing to be their friends - are ppl exactly like them.

So you think their appearance is a predictor of their psychological state?

Why does this matter exactly?

CtevenSrowder · 12-01-2020 1:13am

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

I'm afraid your quite ignorant of Andy Ngo so.

Nope. He isn't far right, as much as you'd like him to be.

SaintLeibowitz · 12-01-2020 1:22am

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Nope. He isn't far right, as much as you'd like him to be.

Try again there lad.

12-01-2020 1:25am

There's something very unlikeable about Ngo anyway..

Brian? · 12-01-2020 9:32am

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Nope. He isn't far right, as much as you'd like him to be.

I don’t think he’s far right either.

He does however cosy up to far right groups and produce disingenuous content to make money.

WrenBoy · 13-01-2020 10:42am

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

Try again there lad.

Great point well argued..:pac:

20Cent · 13-01-2020 11:28am

Andy Ngo doxed a child.

Nice fella.

Andy Ngo slammed for doxing a minor
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/andy-ngo-doxing-minor/?tw=dd

13-01-2020 11:42am

20Cent wrote: »

Andy Ngo doxed a child.

Nice fella.

Andy Ngo slammed for doxing a minor
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/andy-ngo-doxing-minor/?tw=dd

That is not an article.

"Slammed"? Really?

That is "journalism" at it's weakest.

Try harder 20cent.

13-01-2020 12:11pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Try harder 20cent.

Jesus, don't encourage him..

20Cent · 13-01-2020 12:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That is not an article.

"Slammed"? Really?

That is "journalism" at it's weakest.

Try harder 20cent.

He doxed a child.
Hardly the actions of a journalist.

13-01-2020 12:48pm

20Cent wrote: »

He doxed a child.
Hardly the actions of a journalist.

You obsession with Ngo, "grifters" and the wholesome Antifa group make you impossible to take seriously.

Antifa are a terrible group. Alt right supporters are horrible people.

They are demonstrable facts.

You take the position that anyone who opposes Antifa are automatically alt-right or alt-right sympathisers.

You and people like you are the main reason that people can't, won't and shouldn't get behind the Antifa movement.

20Cent · 13-01-2020 1:16pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You obsession with Ngo, "grifters" and the wholesome Antifa group make you impossible to take seriously.

Antifa are a terrible group. Alt right supporters are horrible people.

They are demonstrable facts.

You take the position that anyone who opposes Antifa are automatically alt-right or alt-right sympathisers.

You and people like you are the main reason that people can't, won't and shouldn't get behind the Antifa movement.

Haven't heard much from them lately.
Know why?
Because they only confront fascist marches.
These events have stopped because they are too much trouble when antifa show up.

It isn't a movement and doesn't want anyone support, they just want to stop fascists.

Eric Cartman · 13-01-2020 1:17pm

I love how an absolute nobody calls a moderate nobody a ‘self proclaimed journalist’ in a nothing publication

13-01-2020 1:31pm

20Cent wrote: »

Haven't heard much from them lately.
Know why?
Because they only confront fascist marches.
These events have stopped because they are too much trouble when antifa show up.

It isn't a movement and doesn't want anyone support, they just want to stop fascists.

Absolute horse****.

They've turned up at Ben Shapiro (to name but one) talks to attempt to shut him down and are abundant at any talks or events which may lean right wing.

Antifa aren't antifascist. They are anti anyone they don't agree with.

CtevenSrowder · 13-01-2020 1:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolute horse****.

They've turned up at Ben Shapiro (to name but one) talks to attempt to shut him down and are abundant at any talks or events which may lean right wing.

Antifa aren't antifascist. They are anti anyone they don't agree with.

Sure he knows this. It was pointed out to him numerous times during the thread. Just stop responding and let this cluster of a thread die!

13-01-2020 1:39pm

Sorry. You are right. This will be my last post on this godforsaken thread.

Hector Savage · 13-01-2020 3:52pm

I was in an argument with my Dad about AntiFa ... he seemed to think if you are against anti fa by definition it means you are a fascist.

I told him about the above incident and loads like it, he just denied it happened, completely denied it, even with the videos.
His argument was that he has seen so many fake videos of planes landing (from simulators) - so videos are easy to fake, so these videos have been faked.

Yep, that's what you're dealing with.

20Cent · 13-01-2020 4:07pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

I was in an argument with my Dad about AntiFa ... he seemed to think if you are against anti fa by definition it means you are a fascist.

I told him about the above incident and loads like it, he just denied it happened, completely denied it, even with the videos.
His argument was that he has seen so many fake videos of planes landing (from simulators) - so videos are easy to fake, so these videos have been faked.

Yep, that's what you're dealing with.

Jaysus can't listen to yer one's voice bloody hell.

Your dad is right anyway listen to him.

Tasfasdf · 13-01-2020 4:10pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

I was in an argument with my Dad about AntiFa ... he seemed to think if you are against anti fa by definition it means you are a fascist.

I told him about the above incident and loads like it, he just denied it happened, completely denied it, even with the videos.
His argument was that he has seen so many fake videos of planes landing (from simulators) - so videos are easy to fake, so these videos have been faked.

Yep, that's what you're dealing with.

Your Dad sounds like 20 Cent. God help you:D

1800_Ladladlad · 13-01-2020 4:26pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

I was in an argument with my Dad about AntiFa ... he seemed to think if you are against anti fa by definition it means you are a fascist.

I told him about the above incident and loads like it, he just denied it happened, completely denied it, even with the videos.
His argument was that he has seen so many fake videos of planes landing (from simulators) - so videos are easy to fake, so these videos have been faked.

Yep, that's what you're dealing with.

Have to say, you have turned out great:pac:

Alot of adults in the 45+ age bracket frighteningly believe everything they see online and what they read on the internet id true. Same with a few i know.

James Brown · 13-01-2020 8:02pm

I remember arguing with an older gent. I was saying the Irag war was more about securing oil in the region than anything else. He was all Weapons of Mass destruction etc. Some years later I heard him giving out about oil wars. point is people are capable of changing regardless of age.
The sad thing is 'clever' 'with it' internet folk spending their time owning snowflakes and attacking anti-fascists while their freedoms are chipped away by the very 'free speech' proponents they defend in their attacks on anyone pushing for equality or anything mildly left.

Maybe start a 'real anti fascist thread, (not affiliated with antifa)'? But where would be the sport in that?

The kids always like to be counter culture. This season being Alt-Right is the trendy thing all the online kids are at.

Ironicname · 14-01-2020 8:43am

Matt Barrett wrote:

Maybe start a 'real anti fascist thread, (not affiliated with antifa)'? But where would be the sport in that?

Because people aren't opposing antifascism they oppose antifa. Very different things entirely

Hector Savage · 15-01-2020 11:49am

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Your Dad sounds like 20 Cent. God help you:D

edit - a bit harsh on me da' ...

Hector Savage · 15-01-2020 11:51am

Ironicname wrote: »

Because people aren't opposing antifascism they oppose antifa. Very different things entirely

Exactly, if antifa were just anti fascist - as in real actual fascists - all reasonable people would agree with them, the problem is their definition of fascism is extremely broad.

20Cent · 15-01-2020 7:36pm

Saying antifa are stopping you speak is a marketing tool the grifters are using to increase their profile. A lot of suckers falling for it.

15-01-2020 7:48pm

Good sh*t-stirring post there 20cent..

20Cent · 15-01-2020 8:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Good sh*t-stirring post there 20cent..

Truth hurts.

15-01-2020 8:09pm

20Cent wrote: »

Truth hurts.

Get someone to put a plaster on it.. you'll be ok..

1800_Ladladlad · 16-01-2020 2:34am

20Cent wrote: »

Saying antifa are stopping you speak is a marketing tool the grifters are using to increase their profile. A lot of suckers falling for it.

Brilliant

notobtuse · 17-01-2020 4:18pm

A crazy Monday to unfold in Richmond Virginia?

On Monday January 20th an Antifa group will be marching alongside Pro-Gun protesters in Virginia. The march opposes the numerous gun measures and restrictions on the ownership of firearms that seems likely to become law since Democrats won control of both Virginia houses last year... legislation contrary to the rights guaranteed in the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

The Richmond-based Antifa Seven Hills believes gun control is a class issue and that America has a legacy of racist enforcement and it represents the rise of a police state and the oppression of minorities made powerless by disarmament.

The Antifa group has described the rally “as an opportunity to extend an olive branch to other gun owners — at least those who don’t align with the far-right militias or white supremacists who are also expected to show up to the event.”

But there are sure to be some in the Pro-Gun protesters who Antifa despises.

Democratic Governor Ralph Northam has decreed an order that bans guns from the "Lobby Day" rally on Monday.

What could go wrong?

Manic Moran · 17-01-2020 5:16pm

notobtuse wrote: »

A crazy Monday to unfold in Richmond Virginia?

On Monday January 20th an Antifa group will be marching alongside Pro-Gun protesters in Virginia. The march opposes the numerous gun measures and restrictions on the ownership of firearms that seems likely to become law since Democrats won control of both Virginia houses last year... legislation contrary to the rights guaranteed in the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

The Richmond-based Antifa Seven Hills believes gun control is a class issue and that America has a legacy of racist enforcement and it represents the rise of a police state and the oppression of minorities made powerless by disarmament.

The Antifa group has described the rally “as an opportunity to extend an olive branch to other gun owners — at least those who don’t align with the far-right militias or white supremacists who are also expected to show up to the event.”

But there are sure to be some in the Pro-Gun protesters who Antifa despises.

Democratic Governor Ralph Northam has decreed an order that bans guns from the "Lobby Day" rally on Monday.

What could go wrong?

A lot.

I've been following this on the firearms boards, and the gun owners are a new level of "pissed". The reaction is far different than has been the case when gun control laws have been proposed in other States in the past, when the worst that has happened is mass non-compliance. Now that the Governor has decided that a political rally could count as a State of Emergency, the talk has moved beyond that or 'polite demonstration (eg "Leave your rifles at home, it looks bad")' to open defiance. Are the State Troopers and Richmond PD really going to enforce against hundreds of armed persons, especially if mixed in the crowd with thousands of unarmed demonstrators?

I honestly don't think the danger lies between the neo-nazis and Antifa. They'll likely find a way to be on opposite sides of the crowd from each other. It's the interaction between law enforcement and the crowd which concerns me. Before the governor's declaration, I was confident that the event would pass peaceably (Even with the recent FBI arrest of accused agitators). Now, I'm not so sure.

Outlaw Pete · 20-01-2020 9:58am

This kind of crap doesn't help:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1218971876992737285

They deleted the tweet in response to some replies from protestors such as this one:

https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1218967510181171202

Manic Moran · 21-01-2020 2:09pm

Well, apparently 22,000 (estimated) people from all walks of life actually can get together when heavily armed without trouble. They even picked up the rubbish after themselves.

20Cent · 21-01-2020 4:58pm

Manic Moran wrote: »

Well, apparently 22,000 (estimated) people from all walks of life actually can get together when heavily armed without trouble. They even picked up the rubbish after themselves.

Saw some photos, looked like a 40 year old virgin march.

Winning_Stroke · 21-01-2020 5:04pm

20Cent wrote: »

Saw some photos, looked like a 40 year old virgin march.

Interesting that your main thoughts seem to be on the attendants sex lives. Do you find this happening in other news stories photos you "saw some" of?

notobtuse · 21-01-2020 5:33pm

Manic Moran wrote: »

Well, apparently 22,000 (estimated) people from all walks of life actually can get together when heavily armed without trouble. They even picked up the rubbish after themselves.

According to the agenda driven media, like MSNBC and CNN, the gathering was highly represented by White Supremacists. Untrue, but why let facts stand in the way of yellow journalism. Apparently the media is saddened that mayhem didn't break out. And it seems Antifa mostly stayed away.

Ironicname · 21-01-2020 5:56pm

20Cent wrote:

Saw some photos, looked like a 40 year old virgin march.

Hahahahahahahaha.

Jesus Christ. That's your best post yet.

An antifa fanatic daring to call anyone else a 40 year old virgin.

Good man.

notobtuse · 21-01-2020 5:59pm

Ironicname wrote: »

Hahahahahahahaha.

Jesus Christ. That's your best post yet.

An antifa fanatic daring to call anyone else a 40 year old virgin.

Good man.

My favorite picture of the event was of the African American saying he was the Virginia governor in blackface.

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James Brown · 21-01-2020 6:18pm

notobtuse wrote: »

According to the agenda driven media, like MSNBC and CNN, the gathering was highly represented by White Supremacists. Untrue, but why let facts stand in the way of yellow journalism. Apparently the media is saddened that mayhem didn't break out. And it seems Antifa mostly stayed away.

Reputable news organisations say.... but random internet dude disagrees with inferences and hear-say, so there :rolleyes:
The POTUS says the US is the best country in the Universe. Maybe Spaceforce has intel?

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