Rules question

NUTLEY BOY · 22-07-2019 11:51am #1

What do the rules say about this scenario ;

I take a putt.
Ball stops fully just short of the hole.
A seagull lands on the green and nods it in to the hole.

Does that count as if I had holed the putt first time or what ?

Sharp MZ700 · 22-07-2019 11:53am

Did he take it on the chest or did it touch his wing first?

NUTLEY BOY · 22-07-2019 12:22pm

Sharp MZ700 wrote: »

Did he take it on the chest or did it touch his wing first?

Dead ball specialist - nodded straight in off the head

ForeRight · 22-07-2019 12:25pm

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

Dead ball specialist - nodded straight in off the head

Dangerous play so. Yellow card.

GreeBo · 22-07-2019 12:26pm

If the ball is at rest you replace it, otherwise its just a rub of the green.

paulos53 · 22-07-2019 1:34pm

GreeBo wrote: »

If the ball is at rest you replace it, otherwise its just a rub of the green.

There is an exception to that when playing from the green.

Exception 2 – When Ball Played from Putting Green Accidentally Hits Any Person, Animal or Movable Obstruction (Including Another Ball in Motion) on Putting Green: The stroke does not count and the original ball or another ball must be replaced on its original spot (which if not known must be estimated)

Hoboo · 22-07-2019 10:08pm

Quote:

Exception 2 – When Ball Played from Putting Green Accidentally Hits Any Person, Animal or Movable Obstruction (Including Another Ball in Motion) on Putting Green: The stroke does not count and the original ball or another ball must be replaced on its original spot (which if not known must be estimated)

Would this mean if your ball hits another players marker you could retake it?

GreeBo · 22-07-2019 11:43pm

Hoboo wrote: »

Quote:

Exception 2 – When Ball Played from Putting Green Accidentally Hits Any Person, Animal or Movable Obstruction (Including Another Ball in Motion) on Putting Green: The stroke does not count and the original ball or another ball must be replaced on its original spot (which if not known must be estimated)

Would this mean if your ball hits another players marker you could retake it?

If a marker is considered a moveable obstruction then you MUST replay...it's not an option.

Seve OB · 23-07-2019 12:30am

paulos53 wrote: »

There is an exception to that when playing from the green.

But the ball has already come to rest so that quote would not matter here.

PhuckHugh22 · 23-07-2019 7:41am

Seve OB wrote: »

But the ball has already come to rest so that quote would not matter here.

It was in relation to Greebo's comment who said if the bird knocks it in while in motion it would count.

It was already confirmed that if the bird knocks it in from an at rest position it must be replaced.

paulos53 · 23-07-2019 7:58am

Hoboo wrote: »

Quote:

Exception 2 – When Ball Played from Putting Green Accidentally Hits Any Person, Animal or Movable Obstruction (Including Another Ball in Motion) on Putting Green: The stroke does not count and the original ball or another ball must be replaced on its original spot (which if not known must be estimated)

Would this mean if your ball hits another players marker you could retake it?

They don't make the rules easy. That exception has 2 further exceptions, 1 of which covers your scenario.

- Ball in Motion Hits Another Ball at Rest or Ball-Marker on Putting Green. The stroke counts and the ball must be played as it lies. (See Rule 11.1a for whether a penalty applies in stroke play).

Rule 11.1a is a 2 shot penalty when a ball played from the green hits another ball at rest on the green.

The other exception relates to hitting the flagstick.

Hoboo · 23-07-2019 9:01am

paulos53 wrote: »

They don't make the rules easy. That exception has 2 further exceptions, 1 of which covers your scenario.

- Ball in Motion Hits Another Ball at Rest or Ball-Marker on Putting Green. The stroke counts and the ball must be played as it lies. (See Rule 11.1a for whether a penalty applies in stroke play).

Rule 11.1a is a 2 shot penalty when a ball played from the green hits another ball at rest on the green.

The other exception relates to hitting the flagstick.

That's what I thought, never heard of replacing your ball after hitting a marker.

Keyzer · 23-07-2019 9:03am

Steven Seagull?

NUTLEY BOY · 24-07-2019 11:09am

Thanks to all.

Better just improve my putting.......

prawnsambo · 24-07-2019 2:26pm

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

Thanks to all.

Better just improve my putting.......

And stop rubbing your golf balls in seagull feed.

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