Carl Frampton V Jamel Herring Fight Thread - Channel 5 @ 10pm

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 2:09pm #1

Frampton bids to become a three weight world champion. The first in Irish history to do it.

Tough fight to call to be honest. I don't rate Herring very highly at all but the size difference is going to be a massive challenge for Carl to overcome. I can't get that Santa Cruz rematch out of my head where Carl looked out of ideas against the taller fighter who used his size. Herring much bigger than Santa Cruz and Carl seems to have slipped a bit since. Doesn't bode well on paper. Still can't shake a feeling that Frampton's will might see him through here though. Could see him coming on strong late in the fight as Herring tires. That last Herring performance against Oquendo didn't paint him in a great light. Basically quit after a cut in order to take the fight to the cards.

Gonna go with Frampton points in a fight of two halves where the decision gets disputed greatly.

Undercard on IFL TV and Frampton fight on channel 5 from 10pm.

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 5:27pm

Card on DAZN at the moment. Have to say given all the hype Israil Madrimov does nothing for me. Was expected to be one of those guys who could win a world title within 10 fights. Looks like he needs to move down in weight to 147. Far too hittable and lacks power to keep opponents off him. Not going to end well for him against the elite at 154.

Johner · 03-04-2021 6:46pm

Didn’t see the fight but the stoppage looked very premature in the main event.

As for later, Herring on points for me. Hopefully Carl gets the job done but size will be a big factor here imo.

walshb · 03-04-2021 6:58pm

Tyrone McKenna’s opponent is out...?!

Johner · 03-04-2021 7:05pm

walshb wrote: »

Tyrone McKenna’s opponent is out...?!

I think he tested positive for Covid! Sickener for McKenna.

squinn2912 · 03-04-2021 7:07pm

I think frampton is going to get beaten tonight I think he’s well past his best. Possibly a middle round stoppage

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 7:27pm

Johner wrote: »

Didn’t see the fight but the stoppage looked very premature in the main event.

Yeah fight was only going one way but stoppage was definitely far too early. That Akhmadaliev jab really is bordering on one of the best in the sport though. Superb fighter. Some serious talent coming out of Uzbekistan.

walshb · 03-04-2021 7:33pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Yeah fight was only going one way but stoppage was definitely far too early. That Akhmadaliev jab really is bordering on one of the best in the sport though. Superb fighter. Some serious talent coming out of Uzbekistan.

Conlan beat him 2015 world final..

But he looks a real solid pro..

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 7:44pm

walshb wrote: »

Conlan beat him 2015 world final..

But he looks a real solid pro..

Yep and dropped Conlan heavy. Always thought the skill levels were quite close in that fight just Conlan's size and strength that made the big difference. He was only 20 back then though come on spades since.

walshb · 03-04-2021 8:43pm

Heads up when Frampton in..

👍

Brock Turnpike · 03-04-2021 10:09pm

walshb wrote: »

Heads up when Frampton in..

ðŸ‘

Ring walks starting

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:10pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Ring walks starting

Sound. On it now..

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 10:11pm

Ring walks now..

generalgerry · 03-04-2021 10:13pm

What's WBO Junior? Is that like an Intermediate club championship

waynescales1 · 03-04-2021 10:13pm

Herring enters the ring to Nas, fair play to him.

waynescales1 · 03-04-2021 10:14pm

generalgerry wrote: »

What's WBO Junior? Is that like an Intermediate club championship

Another name for Super Featherweight.

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:22pm

Frampton getting hit easier than usual..

Johner · 03-04-2021 10:22pm

2-0 Herring, not doing a whole pile but looks the boss in there so far and size looks to be playing a part.

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:22pm

Is Frampton tired?

Big Ears · 03-04-2021 10:25pm

walshb wrote: »

Is Frampton tired?

He's having to do a lot of work just to avoid shots and get into range, so he could be.

It's not looking great for him.

but1er · 03-04-2021 10:26pm

Very very easy for herring so far

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:27pm

Frampton needs to simply go for it. This posing and trying to steal shots here and there will see him lose wide..

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 10:28pm

3-0 Herring. Frampton going to need to start taking more risks here. Would fear he might walk on to something. Severely outgunned.

normanoffside · 03-04-2021 10:29pm

Herring is absolutely Huge compared to Frampton.
He fought at light -welter in The 2012 Olympics (64kg).
That's 1 weight above Taylor at those games, 2 above Lomachenko and 3 above Luke Campbell and 4 above Conlan

generalgerry · 03-04-2021 10:30pm

looking better now lads.

Big Ears · 03-04-2021 10:32pm

generalgerry wrote: »

looking better now lads.

I still think Herring won that round, and may have stung Frampton a few times to the body, but a much better round.

That eye is affecting Herring and Frampton landed some good shots to head and body himself.
Even a shootout would suit Frampton better than what's come before.

carltonleon · 03-04-2021 10:32pm

Better round for Frampton alright

waynescales1 · 03-04-2021 10:32pm

Finally Frampton shortens the distance and does some work on the inside. Why did he spend the first three rounds at the perfect range for Herring.

Frampton needs to walk this lad down, get him into the ropes and start battering him to the body.

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:32pm

Herring well able to match Carl in close!!

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:33pm

I think Carl is cooked!!

squinn2912 · 03-04-2021 10:34pm

Jab is destroying Frmpton. In big trouble here. Every time he lands he has to take 2-3. I think he needs a miracle.

x PyRo · 03-04-2021 10:35pm

Tough watching Carl like this, a shadow of his former self.

generalgerry · 03-04-2021 10:35pm

walshb wrote: »

I think Carl is cooked!!

He looks an old man in there. very tired. But still has a chance with that cut.

carltonleon · 03-04-2021 10:36pm

Frampton looks a shadow of his former self. I said it at the time that I thought he should have retired after the Warrington fight and I have seen nothing since then that has made me change my mind

awec · 03-04-2021 10:36pm

He’s done.

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:37pm

Done!!

Johner · 03-04-2021 10:37pm

Just too big.

Johner · 03-04-2021 10:38pm

Herring very solid, nothing spectacular but just massive for the weight and Carl couldn’t really get close. Retirement surely now.

carltonleon · 03-04-2021 10:39pm

Great work from Frampton’s corner, he was gone and no need for any more punishment

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:39pm

Thoroughly dominated...

Carl needs to hang em up now..said he will..

waynescales1 · 03-04-2021 10:39pm

That was hard to watch, feel sorry for Carl.

Big Ears · 03-04-2021 10:39pm

carltonleon wrote: »

Frampton looks a shadow of his former self. I said it at the time that I thought he should have retired after the Warrington fight and I have seen nothing since then that has made me change my mind

If you saw the deal he got with BT and ESPN that might have changed your mind !

But as far as boxing goes your right, he's clearly declined and far too small for Super-Featherweight.

Herring's decent, but not much more. Easy work for a genuine World class fighter at 130.

generalgerry · 03-04-2021 10:39pm

Feel sorry for Frampton, seems like the realisation that it's all over has just hit him. He's a true warrior.

squinn2912 · 03-04-2021 10:40pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

I think frampton is going to get beaten tonight I think he’s well past his best. Possibly a middle round stoppage

Thought it would end in tears. Shadow of his former self. Was miles off it tonight. Just about fit to be allowed to continue.

Morrison J · 03-04-2021 10:41pm

walshb wrote: »

Thoroughly dominated...

Carl needs to hang em up now..said he will..

Don't think there'll be any doubt about that. I don't think he's been the same fighter since he moved to Jamie Moore to be honest. McGuigan had him fighting on all cylinders. Shame to see it end like this for him.

Big Ears · 03-04-2021 10:41pm

carltonleon wrote: »

Great work from Frampton’s corner, he was gone and no need for any more punishment

There's a strong chance he got saved from being knocked cold.

Yes he was winging hooks back, but he was off balance and it's a much stronger possibility Herring was going to chin a stunned Frampton bad, than one of those turn it in Frampton's favour.

awec · 03-04-2021 10:44pm

Big Ears wrote: »

There's a strong chance he got saved from being knocked cold.

Yes he was winging hooks back, but he was off balance and it's a much stronger possibility Herring was going to chin a stunned Frampton bad, than one of those turn it in Frampton's favour.

He took a few big hits at the end, I’d say the ref wasn’t far from calling it.

generalgerry · 03-04-2021 10:46pm

carltonleon wrote: »

Great work from Frampton’s corner, he was gone and no need for any more punishment

Probably one of the best timed towels I've seen. Gave him just enough of a chance to keep swinging, and stopped him before he got knocked out.

carltonleon · 03-04-2021 10:47pm

Thought he had a pointed comment against the McGuigian’s there with the ‘the last few years have been the most enjoyable of my career’ ...

megadodge · 03-04-2021 10:49pm

Hard luck Carl.

Classy as ever in the interview.

Definitely time to retire.

Thanks for all the good times. Enjoy your retirement.

walshb · 03-04-2021 10:49pm

I’d say the McGuigans are bouncin around their living room!

Carl Frampton V Jamel Herring Fight Thread - Channel 5 @ 10pm

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