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Belfast International Airport Police

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  • 22-11-2018 10:57pm
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    ry7704ng
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭


    (first independant thread please be patient here)

    right, so i am still in secondary school looking at careers and i would love to get into either an ambulance service or policing, now ambulance service is wiped off because i am a red cross novice and also volunteer for a non phecc registered org that i wont name and by my observation alot of medical professionals are not the nicest off the job and tend to be full of themselves so its put me off that path, policing is now what attracts me, however the guards doesnt look very rewarding and there isn't great respect from the public.

    however the airport police attracts me hugely as it seems more diverse and better equipped however the internal recruitment part has put me off as from talking to an airport police officer they tend to only be sourced from the ASU and they rarely recruit (granted cork has positions now) so then i had my eyes set on the PSNI but very simply i do not wanna do a job where i have to check my car for bombs and every few years possibly have to guard the crime scene of a mascaraed colleague so i am slightly put off by that. finally what i started this thread for. i was looking at the policing careers and stumbled across the Belfast international airport constabulary, granted the wage is not good starting out and there's no guarantee they keep you etc but i still think this option suits me to the ground.

    so my questions to any garda, PSNI, DAA Airport Police or even BIAC officers are

    is the risk the same as with PSNI?

    what sort of things would help me make good impressions in order to keep the job?

    should i forget the BIAC and just join the gardai or PSNI?

    sorry for the large paragraphs i just wanted to put everything out there for advice and so on. i don't even know if this is the right forum for this if so just remove this thread


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    unattendedbag
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    Sorry but you have picked some ridiculous notions for writing off entire careers. Are you saying everyone working in the ambulance service are horrible people? Why couldn't you make a career in an Garda Siochana rewarding for yourself or gain the respect from the public from your work? What if you don't like the teabags in the canteen at BIAC? Will you walk out on the first day?


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    ry7704ng
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭ry7704ng


    unattendedbag wrote: »
    Sorry but you have picked some ridiculous notions for writing off entire careers. Are you saying everyone working in the ambulance service are horrible people? Why couldn't you make a career in an Garda Siochana rewarding for yourself or gain the respect from the public from your work? What if you don't like the teabags in the canteen at BIAC? Will you walk out on the first day?

    apologies for this again, i have actually thought about this after posting this an have thought about it and i do believe alot of what i said is ridiculous but living in a rather dangerous county and i have have had to call for the guards help and often have been left standing waiting for what could be hours , i have nothing but respect for the gardai and i am one of very very few in my generation who do but again have just stated an opinion based on my own interactions with gardai with themselves claiming "its not very rewarding as most days are spent in the station watching sky because there no events and no calls and no need for patrol" and i witness everyday the respect they end up getting from the public and the fact that a lot of actions are restricted by superiors i do not think i would get too far with gaining respect. as for paramedics which i work with often at events and courses and so on, most of the time the ones who do it as a career tend to be bias and full of themselves, i can only count a handful of career paramedics who were decent and manorly off the job, again i would love the job but i wouldn't want to be like that or seen as that and its not like i am making all this up or i can be called wrong as i am literally pulling from my own experiences.


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    unattendedbag
    Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭unattendedbag


    I understand, I wouldn't be one for trying to convince someone to take a certain career over another. I just felt you were going into a decision with your eyes firmly shut. It sounded a bit like "I don't want to be a dentist as I don't want to be suicidal". What you have described about paramedics and Garda in both posts would be a very tiny minority of both professions.

    I do know however that in AGS, you can do as much or as little work as your like. Initially your station will dictate a lot about the type of work you will do but after a while you can take a sleepy country station where you can watch sky or you can be in the thick of it in a major city or an interesting specialist position, and everything in between.

    Personally I'd take a job as airport police first thing tomorrow morning. It seems to me like it's a great job without all the bulls*hit that comes with other policing but I know I'd be pulling my hair out after a few years with boredom and frustration.


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    ry7704ng
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭ry7704ng


    unattendedbag wrote: »
    I understand, I wouldn't be one for trying to convince someone to take a certain career over another. I just felt you were going into a decision with your eyes firmly shut. It sounded a bit like "I don't want to be a dentist as I don't want to be suicidal". What you have described about paramedics and Garda in both posts would be a very tiny minority of both professions.

    I do know however that in AGS, you can do as much or as little work as your like. Initially your station will dictate a lot about the type of work you will do but after a while you can take a sleepy country station where you can watch sky or you can be in the thick of it in a major city or an interesting specialist position, and everything in between.

    Personally I'd take a job as airport police first thing tomorrow morning. It seems to me like it's a great job without all the bulls*hit that comes with other policing but I know I'd be pulling my hair out after a few years with boredom and frustration.

    i agree with every word and honestly it all makes being a guard look even better but honestly the way it looks to be going is not great.

    i also thought i would mention i'm not one to complain about wage as i believe you can get by on whatever you are handed but all in all the goal is BIAC as i think its just a better laid out and more varied career compared to AGS and the DAA police is impossible to get into.

    and once again ill mention again the one and only reason im not focussing on PSNI is due to the risk involved and the restrictions and so on in otherwords the fact you cant show your face in pictures in uniform and cant tell anybody where you work i know myself i wouldnt be able to go through with that and would end up leaving due to stress

    (kinda gone off topic in this reply but sure ignore whats not relevant)


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    Schindlers Pissed
    Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭Schindlers Pissed


    I think you need some more life experience before making a decision. I've read your replies and as UnattendedBag said, you are writing off an entire career due to an uninformed generalisation.....I'll hazard a guess and say that you are pretty young? You say that you don't want PSNI as you may one day mind the scene of a murdered colleague....what about all the suicides you will attend as a Garda, a Paramedic, an Advanced Paramedic?

    I have attended so many deaths that I couldn't put a number on it. Suicides, murders, fatal accidents, cardiac arrests....the chances of attending these are DEFINITE, no matter what path you choose.

    As I said, more life experience is needed I think.


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    ry7704ng
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭ry7704ng


    Schindlers Pissed wrote: »
    I think you need some more life experience before making a decision. I've read your replies and as UnattendedBag said, you are writing off an entire career due to an uninformed generalisation.....I'll hazard a guess and say that you are pretty young? You say that you don't want PSNI as you may one day mind the scene of a murdered colleague....what about all the suicides you will attend as a Garda, a Paramedic, an Advanced Paramedic?

    I have attended so many deaths that I couldn't put a number on it. Suicides, murders, fatal accidents, cardiac arrests....the chances of attending these are DEFINITE, no matter what path you choose.

    As I said, more life experience is needed I think.

    just on the death scene guarding, a suicide is different to someone being assasinated due to doing the same job you do. i have been on fatal scenes two times to count, not by any duty or anything but by being a passerby trying to lend a hand and i do not think it would be the same as what some members of the PSNI has faced.

    however i do understand life expirience is needed a few years of adulthood or so on however it should be phrased would be needed before i go for any form of career as an aim


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    Terrontress
    Registered Users Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    I can’t see why anyone would aspire to the Airport Police. To me it seems to be something you’d do as a last resort when you can’t get into PSNI or AGS, and then still have an eye on those forces for a future switch.

    The patch of Belfast airport is tiny and the crimes in which BIAC can get involved in are limited.

    Join AGS or PSNI and start off doing patrol, then do armed response, drugs squad, personal protection, riot police. The options are endless.

    My analogy is to make you think like you’ve always wanted to be a bus driver. Do you drive a bus between Dublin and Cork, Donegal, even on the ferry to London. Or do you drive the airport bus which takes people the 400m between the airport gate and the Ryanair steps.

    I agree with the other poster. Get some life experience first and then make the decision.


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    FGR
    Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭FGR


    Terrontress wrote: »
    then do armed response, drugs squad, personal protection, riot police. The options are endless.

    I agree with your post bar this part. There's a lot of stagnation as regards progression in the public service, be it AGS or the PSNI - there are many officers who have been stuck on regular patrol since the beginning of the recession and still no movement. I'd be warey recommending something unless the person knows exactly what they're in for.


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