Formula 1 2018 - Round 20 – Brasil

skipper_G · 11-11-2018 7:44pm

Feel bad for Max, Ocon should have known better than to get involved like that with the race leader. It was a great race all the same

Cool_CM · 11-11-2018 7:46pm

Max looks like he's waiting for Ocon

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 11-11-2018 7:49pm

Convenient that Ocon is a contracted Mercedes driver and a Mercedes wins the race.

TheChrisD · 11-11-2018 7:51pm

https://streamable.com/b8co6

I think Max says it all for us.

chicorytip · 11-11-2018 7:52pm

skipper_G wrote:

Feel bad for Max, Ocon should have known better than to get involved like that with the race leader. It was a great race all the same

I would blame the Red Bull driver. He was careless in cutting back in too sharply. The argument that Ocon should just have meekly moved aside for the race leader is nonsense. He was entitled to race hard and unlap himself.

pjohnson · 11-11-2018 7:52pm

Daisy Incalculable Handcuff wrote: »

Convenient that Ocon is a contracted Mercedes driver and a Mercedes wins the race.

He mightn't have a seat next year but secured his 2020 Merc seat. The bus stop of Bottas replaced by the bumper car of Ocon :pac:

tipp_tipp_tipp · 11-11-2018 7:54pm

Good race, enjoyed that!

pjohnson · 11-11-2018 7:55pm

chicorytip wrote: »

I would blame the Red Bull driver. He was careless in cutting back in too sharply. The argument that Ocon should just have meekly moved aside for the race leader is nonsense. He was entitled to race hard and unlap himself.

Yeah I'm figuring you out now.

Burkie1203 · 11-11-2018 7:56pm

https://twitter.com/VanGamerenF1/status/1061693644556648455?s=19

Charlie-Bravo · 11-11-2018 7:56pm

Aren't we all delighted that Abu Dhabi didn't get to be a title decider again!!

Top Dog · 11-11-2018 7:56pm

Ah Kimi. Not a hint of sunshine and there he is in his dark sunglasses

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 7:56pm

disgracefull penalty for ocon. he was entitled to be where he was. he was well along side max. max slammed the door closed.
its 100% maxs fault.

Burkie1203 · 11-11-2018 7:58pm

chicorytip wrote: »

I would blame the Red Bull driver. He was careless in cutting back in too sharply. The argument that Ocon should just have meekly moved aside for the race leader is nonsense. He was entitled to race hard and unlap himself.

Ocon wasn't in a race with Max
Max was on racing line

Rossi IRL · 11-11-2018 7:58pm

Hamilton gave Verstappen some sound advice there

Maybe he will take it onboard

"You had more to lose than he did"

TheChrisD · 11-11-2018 7:59pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

disgracefull penalty for ocon. he was entitled to be where he was. he was well along side max. max slammed the door closed.
its 100% maxs fault.

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pjohnson · 11-11-2018 8:02pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

disgracefull penalty for ocon. he was entitled to be where he was. he was well along side max. max slammed the door closed.
its 100% maxs fault.

With this logic races got more interesting. Just remove blue flags and let everyone race no matter how many laps behind :pac:

Burkie1203 · 11-11-2018 8:02pm

Wasn't it Ocon who just pulled over and let Hamilton through in Monaco this year.

skipper_G · 11-11-2018 8:02pm

chicorytip wrote: »

I would blame the Red Bull driver. He was careless in cutting back in too sharply. The argument that Ocon should just have meekly moved aside for the race leader is nonsense. He was entitled to race hard and unlap himself.

Absolute nonsense. He's entitled to unlap himself, not cause a collision with the bloody race leader.

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:03pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Ocon wasn't in a race with Max
Max was on racing line

so was ocon. thats why they hit. max turned in on ocon

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:03pm

TheChrisD wrote: »

doesnt change the facts though

skipper_G · 11-11-2018 8:03pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Wasn't it Ocon who just pulled over and let Hamilton through in Monaco this year.

Yep

Burkie1203 · 11-11-2018 8:04pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

so was ocon. thats why they hit. max turned in on ocon

Ocon was practically off the track. Sorry but your just making a fool of yourself.

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:04pm

pjohnson wrote: »

With this logic races got more interesting. Just remove blue flags and let everyone race no matter how many laps behind :pac:

ocon is entitled to overtake there

chicorytip · 11-11-2018 8:06pm

Burkie1203 wrote:

Ocon was practically off the track. Sorry but your just making a fool of yourself.

You need to closely watch a replay.

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:07pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Ocon was practically off the track. Sorry but your just making a fool of yourself.

practically off the track. come off it. its you that is making fool of your self.
the point at which max turns in on ocon only ocons front right is touching the line. the rest of the car is on track

Simon Gruber Says · 11-11-2018 8:07pm

He can unlap himself but, Max was ahead going into the corner, he has the right to be where he was and Ocon just drove straight into him. It was Ocon's responsibility to back out of the corner and not cause the collision.

pjohnson · 11-11-2018 8:09pm

Its always the same few taking the contrarian line :pac:

Getting the knack of things here now

Rossi IRL · 11-11-2018 8:11pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Its always the same few taking the contrarian line :pac:

Getting the knack of things here now

Likewise if it was Hamilton getting spun I would say the opinions of some would be completely switched.

Top Dog · 11-11-2018 8:12pm

Am I hearing this correctly? Horner is condoning Max shoving Ocon? Saying he was lucky thats all he got? Seriously?!

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:12pm

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

He can unlap himself but, Max was ahead going into the corner, he has the right to be where he was and Ocon just drove straight into him. It was Ocon's responsibility to back out of the corner and not cause the collision.

no he hasnt. ocon was ahead off the straight and ahead entering the 1st corner by a good half car length. max can say he didnt know he was there. as they take the turn and line up for the next turn max is a nose ahead. he then cuts across ocon

pjohnson · 11-11-2018 8:15pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Likewise if it was Hamilton getting spun I would say the opinions of some would be completely switched.

Really? Its pretty simple a car one lap behind has no business racing a car one lap ahead of it.

lolie · 11-11-2018 8:15pm

Whatever about Ocon unlapping himself it was stupid to try it there.
Look at it this way would he have tried that move on a Mercedes, not a hope in hell he would.

skipper_G · 11-11-2018 8:15pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

no he hasnt. ocon was ahead off the straight and ahead entering the 1st corner by a good half car length. max can say he didnt know he was there. as they take the turn and line up for the next turn max is a nose ahead. he then cuts across ocon

Only one of them received a 10 second stop/go penalty and it wasn't the Red Bull driver. So the evidence suggests you are very incorrect

Harika · 11-11-2018 8:19pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Am I hearing this correctly? Horner is condoning Max shoving Ocon? Saying he was lucky thats all he got? Seriously?!

A punch in the face is the least he should have gotten. Pushing was the polite way and far too politically correct

jaapbond · 11-11-2018 8:19pm

That's two races gifted to Hamilton this year ...

Rossi IRL · 11-11-2018 8:20pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Really? Its pretty simple a car one lap behind has no business racing a car one lap ahead of it.

I have already said Ocon should have just let him go

But at no point was Max 100% clear of Ocon, he needs to use his head

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:22pm

skipper_G wrote: »

Only one of them received a 10 second stop/go penalty and it wasn't the Red Bull driver. So the evidence suggests you are very incorrect

the evidence is on you tube as we speak and was live a while ago. its very clear cut .
the penalty is a disgrace and will be overturned . it has to be .

the officials were terrible this weekend. look at the 2 hamilton incidents. not even looked at. the first should have been dangerous driving with penalty and points on licence.

TheChrisD · 11-11-2018 8:25pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

the penalty is a disgrace and will be overturned . it has to be .

In-race penalty overturned? What on earth are you smoking right now :pac:

Cool_CM · 11-11-2018 8:25pm

Max on Ocon in the press conference when asked about the post-race altercation:

"I don't have anything to say about that, except that he's a (sounded like prick)".

And Sky reporting that both have been summoned to the stewards

Rossi IRL · 11-11-2018 8:26pm

Both drivers called to the stewards

pjohnson · 11-11-2018 8:27pm

TheChrisD wrote: »

In-race penalty overturned? What on earth are you smoking right now :pac:

F1 2018 "Replay" Button sort it out.

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:28pm

TheChrisD wrote: »

In-race penalty overturned? What on earth are you smoking right now :pac:

presumably they can apeal it.
i know there was no real impact on results so they mightnt bother.

Frank Bullitt · 11-11-2018 8:28pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

the evidence is on you tube as we speak and was live a while ago. its very clear cut .
the penalty is a disgrace and will be overturned . it has to be .

the officials were terrible this weekend. look at the 2 hamilton incidents. not even looked at. the first should have been dangerous driving with penalty and points on licence.

How can you over turn a stop/go penalty that already happened?

Also, its gotten worse for Ocon, 3 penalty points for him - https://www.racefans.net/2018/11/11/mercedes-clinch-their-fifth-consecutive-f1-constructors-championship/

You are in a very unique minority.

Harika · 11-11-2018 8:28pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/GvanderGarde/status/1061695974081486848

Lol

Frank Bullitt · 11-11-2018 8:31pm

https://twitter.com/glenn_autosport/status/1061686598281162752

Hahaha

donspeekinglesh · 11-11-2018 8:32pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

presumably they can apeal it.
i know there was no real impact on results so they mightnt bother.

In race penalties can not be appealed.

Ghost Train · 11-11-2018 8:32pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Both drivers called to the stewards

I guess bad language by a driver can be investigated, as could driver behaviour after the race I'd guess, Max might need to cool down a bit

Vettel had trouble before with his comments to Charlie Whiting
http://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id/18013457/charlie-whiting-sebastian-vettel-apology-fine-unfortunate-comments

the_pen_turner · 11-11-2018 8:33pm

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

In race penalties can not be appealed.

thats a shame

Frank Bullitt · 11-11-2018 8:35pm

Ghost Train wrote: »

I guess bad language by a driver can be investigated, as could driver behaviour after the race I'd guess, Max might need to cool down a bit

Vettel had trouble before with his comments to Charlie Whiting
http://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id/18013457/charlie-whiting-sebastian-vettel-apology-fine-unfortunate-comments

Its for the handbags in the FIA garage after the race.

Ghost Train · 11-11-2018 8:36pm

Gintonious wrote: »

Its for the handbags in the FIA garage after the race.

I suppose just a talking to for both of them

Formula 1 2018 - Round 20 – Brasil

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