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Has your job ever ruined a film

  • 10-04-2021 9:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,630 ✭✭✭✭


    Watching skyscraper with my husband who works in construction, it's all no reinforcement in that wall that'd never happen, a building that tall the lifts would be a problem, and so on.

    So has your knowledge ever ruined a film.

    Plus how come they don't employ a civil engineer as a consultant to get the technical aspect correct.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Nothing to ruin in the movie Skyscraper.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    I’d say now op building Lego and pup is your husbands best attributes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    No but films give unrealistic expectations of what I do in my job.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    Most office-based films for me, tbh. I wish I could yell "you're fired", stomp around like a massive bitch and face absolutely no repercussions for it, like in the movies! :-))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    I work with animals, so most movies with animals require me to shut off my brain to get through them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,588 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Not a film, but all the tech stuff in CSI, particularly "enchancing" audio or video comes in as utter bollox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Watching skyscraper with my husband who works in construction, it's all no reinforcement in that wall that'd never happen, a building that tall would the lifts would be a problem, and so on.

    So has your knowledge ever ruined a film.

    Plus how come they don't employ a civil engineer as a consultant to get the technical aspect correct.


    Ha! Yes!
    I'm a Registered Gas Installer.
    I was watching some series on TV and they are feckin' around with the gas boiler and they were all chuffed they got it working. Thing was, all the protective covers were missing which gives the combustion too much air which usually produces very high levels of carbon monoxide and their just standing there gormless beside it and I'm shouting at the television to shut the boiler off.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Anything IT based is almost always arseways. Lots of typing endless nonsense code, bugger all use of a mouse or trackpad. It's the movie shorthand for "computers".

    My own personal nerdy wristwatch interest would be another one. They almost never get watches right in period films. My fave flic of all time is probably Lawrence of Arabia(how O'Toole didn't get an oscar for that is beyond me). Set in WW1, yet he wears a WW2 watch. *watchnerd twitch* :mad::D

    Looking at stuff set in the medieval and everyone is dressed in brown rags is a nonsense, but that's shorthand for the medieval(it was actually quite colourful and castles in particular were gaudily painted). Or when you see a road like this in "ancient time" like Rome or Greece or whenever.

    d4488f09178f3429793df8a630203ef6.jpg

    that's another shorthand for "olde times", yet no road looked like that before the invention of the automobile. OK, you think of a horse and cart. Where's the horse in relation to the cart? Exactly, you see it. The green bit in the middle would be just as worn down as the rest of the road.

    Another one is in American films where a car with a manual gearbox(traaaansmission) is onscreen. Changing gears in what appears to be a ten speed gearbox means going way faster. Might go over in the US of A where most people "can't drive stick" but looks daft to even your grannie who drives her 90's Starlet to mass every day.

    American rewriting of history is another one. In WW2 flics you'd swear they were the only ones on the good side. Indeed I'm surprised they even show the Germans or Japanese being in the mix at all. :D Though great directors like Clint Eastwood(who couldn't be more conservative Go USA! in personal politics) don't do this. Then again he's of a very different generation, when meaning over artifice mattered more.

    I would tend to switch off the critique and contrarianism when enjoying a film or TV drama though. You kinda have to. They're a fantasy, a break from reality, that's what they do. A physicist or cosmologist if they were that much of a Sheldon Cooper anally retentive couldn't possibly enjoy it. Teeny tiny Scarlett Johansson in a skin tight catsuit(hello!) beating seven shades of ordure out of huge muscly blokes is a total nonsense, but it's great to watch. Drama in essence is the suspension of disbelief. I mean Shakespeare was a big hit in his day and droves of the common man and woman and the well heeled piled in to see his(and others like Marlowe) plays and loved them, even though to modern audiences they'd be horribly stilted and all the women's parts were played by blokes in drag.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Ha! Yes!
    I'm a Registered Gas Installer.
    I was watching some series on TV and they are feckin' around with the gas boiler and they were all chuffed they got it working. Thing was, all the protective covers were missing which gives the combustion too much air which usually produces very high levels of carbon monoxide and their just standing there gormless beside it and I'm shouting at the television to shut the boiler off.
    I read that K and your avatar summed it up perfectly. :D:D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭jimmy180sx


    Where they release halo gas in the room and they don't sufficate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Anything to do with IT in any movie

    Notable mention for any degree of accuracy is the first season of Mr Robot, but thats TV


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No. So far from what I've watched the portrayal has been fairly accurate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 20 Hdjsjsjsj


    As other have said the depiction of IT is often a bit ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    Deepwater Horizon

    Worked in the oil field and this is like a horror movie for me, characters are accurate, rig floor, dog house and so on.

    Can't watch it because me or my friends could so easily have been standing their.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,176 ✭✭✭✭sammyjo90


    No..if I'm ever sat watching a film about some poor bastid assessing a supplier driven change notification kill me


  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Papa_Bear


    Charactors too. We're expected to believe that some old dear is head of a specailist crime investigations unit.



    "We have ways of making them talk gag"




    Give us some credit.




    On the IT bit, I can't think of a bigger offender than The Net or maybe Enemy of the State.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    OP, i know what you mean
    Im (was) a chef, and in most movies and soaps (Fair City) they all come out of a busy shift with a spotless white jacket


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    As said ad nauseam, IT is mostly wrong. Also space physics bar a few notable exceptions like The Expanse.


    I'm always spotting airsoft (like paintball) guns in movies :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Wibbs observation around the endless clicking of keyboards in anything computer related does my head in.

    **American accent in cop film***..."can we zoom in on that plate?"

    Tech guy types furiously. No mouse to be seen. Seriously?!

    Also I am a firearm owner. Anything inaccurate there has me giving out to Mrs Seafields. Watched something recently where they tried to rob a house with a double barrel shotgun.....

    Insert pump action shotgun noise after they demand the money.

    FFS. Give me strength!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    "The files are located on the CIAs encrypted servers, pass me that laptop....*tap*....*tap*...*tap*..............I'm in"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Notmything


    War films or gun fights:

    Never reload, fences, doors, cardboard boxes stopping rounds.

    Grenades exploding with the power of a mini Nuke.

    Explosion: no shrapnel, no injuries from shock wave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum


    This is every musician watching people play their instruments in films and on tv. Except The Song of Names, every cunt in that learned the shit out of the violin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    SeaFields wrote:
    Tech guy types furiously. No mouse to be seen. Seriously?!


    "*tap tap tap tap tap* enhance! *tap tap tap tap tap* enhance! *tap... tap... tap... tap... tap...* enhance!"
    "Just print the damn thing!"


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Every movie gets it wrong on just about every industry.

    No one wants to spend 2 hours watching a cop filming in paperwork.

    Or waiting 6 months for the real csi to not find a fingerprint match or tell you that the blue paint is.....blue paint commonly found in every single shop in the land.

    I certainly have no desire to watch an it consultant coding or trouble shooting a virus.

    And so on and so forth. So no, the movies don't because I'm not a moron, I know they are movies and I know they aren't making me better than the real professionals.

    The morons that think they are real and watching them makes them experts........


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    The thread title is confusing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,371 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Either Hollywood Reporter or Vanity Fair do a good series on YouTube where industry pros, spys, pilots, cops, teachers, scientists etc all critique the most and least accurate movies in their field.

    All take dramatic licence of course, but some do go to great lengths to be authentic.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Wibbs wrote: »
    A physicist or cosmologist if they were that much of a Sheldon Cooper anally retentive couldn't possibly enjoy it.

    The only really genuine bit of science was

    Penny: So, what's new in the world of physics?
    Leonard: Nothing.
    Penny: Really, nothing?
    Leonard: Well, with the exception of string theory, not much has happened since the 1930s. And you can't prove string theory"


    The rest of it was name dropping or Star Trek Voyager level technobabble.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Notmything wrote: »
    War films or gun fights:

    Never reload, fences, doors, cardboard boxes stopping rounds.

    Grenades exploding with the power of a mini Nuke.

    Explosion: no shrapnel, no injuries from shock wave.
    No one using ranged weapons properly. Apart from "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

    In Fury a stationary Tiger would be expected to hit a target 19 times out of 20. The only possible reason to get close would be if there was serious artillery too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭Treppen


    The only really genuine bit of science was

    Penny: So, what's new in the world of physics?
    Leonard: Nothing.
    Penny: Really, nothing?
    Leonard: Well, with the exception of string theory, not much has happened since the 1930s. And you can't prove string theory"


    The rest of it was name dropping or Star Trek Voyager level technobabble.

    I remember one time on Big Bang they called a drinks cup a cylinder... Bunch of ####ing dopes.
    (It's a truncated cone btw).


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    NASA admits to using the film "Armageddon" to test their new applicants knowledge by making them pick out all of the scientific inaccuracies. Currently the record is 168 total scientific inaccuracies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Anything to do with biology, particularly genetics. Watched 'Thunderforce' last night, (I know, I know, don't judge), and I started up with, 'why would a sequencing platform rearrange your DNA...?'. My boyfriend told me to zip it and stop nitpicking again. Star Trek the Next Generation is particularly bad for this. I think when they wrote scripts they had a generic line 'insert technobabble here', hence none of it makes any kind of sense.

    I've also noticed a weird trend in films where biologists are always evil people who have no problem causing mayhem with their pesky tinkering. You don't seem to have the same bias towards physicists or tech related things which is weird considering the real life ethical dilemmas we see with widespread data mining or the development of AI to name but two examples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Notmything


    No one using ranged weapons properly. Apart from "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

    In Fury a stationary Tiger would be expected to hit a target 19 times out of 20. The only possible reason to get close would be if there was serious artillery too.


    Was watching Kong v Godzilla and couldn't understand why the jets were flying so close to 'zilla before firing their missiles. Just stand off and launch ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    A few things due to "training" rather than specific to my job drive me up the walls, particularly in relation to supposed professionals rendering first aid - giving mouth-to-mouth without checking/clearing the victim's airway, giving up on cardiac massage after three or four half-hearted presses, pulling people out of icy waters and wrapping them in blankets, soaking clothes and all ... :mad:

    Oh, and one job-related thing: medical people squirting the contents of a syringe up in the air with no regard for health-and-safety, not to mention the waste.

    And supposedly professional photographers who don't seem to know how to hold a camera, take every shot at head height, and talk about the great "quality of the light" in the middle of a bright sunny day. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Not so much work since I work in hospitality but I studied engineering, IT and physics in college so most sci-fi, action or anything to do with computers needs me to switch my brain off.

    Special shout-out to Independence Day for getting all three.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    I can accept a lot of artifice, but some things are just daft. I'm an engineer, so I catch a lot of science- and computer-related absurdities.

    The classic example is Superman catching someone falling from a skyscraper metres before they hit the footpath and stops on a penny. It'd be like catching a egg dropped from the roof of a house with the prongs of a forklift. Yes, Superman is no less an absurd concept, but that's a conceit I bought into going into the movie. The sudden inanity breaks the sense of immersion that good directors aim for. Amazing Spiderman 2 actually gets this one right, and it makes this scene (spoiler alert!) very moving.

    My pet peeve is chess games that make no sense. I'm a decent club player, so I'll spot these instantly. The board is supposed to be in a particular orientation, for example, with the rightmost square of the each player's back rank being white. It stands out like a sore thumb to a chess player. It's a 50:50 chance, and I reckon they get it wrong about 85% of the time. Here's an example from the opening scene of Never Say Never Again, Connery's belated return as Bond. The pieces are in sort of plausible positions, but the board is rotated. At least he hand grenades the blasted thing. The other 15% of the time, they've usually gotten someone in to copy from a real match, which is nice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭bop1977


    In the tv show Silicon Valley one of the lads ends up on a ship. The ship has a robot controlled warehouse. Robot driving forklift and the like. As he is walking around the lights on the roof are on. Why. Why are the lights on. Robots don’t need lights. They have sensors.

    Silicon Valley ruined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,256 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Stay away from Final Destination series if you are a Health and safety officer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    bop1977 wrote: »
    In the tv show Silicon Valley one of the lads ends up on a ship. The ship has a robot controlled warehouse. Robot driving forklift and the like. As he is walking around the lights on the roof are on. Why. Why are the lights on. Robots don’t need lights. They have sensors.

    Silicon Valley ruined.
    Depends on the sensors. Active sensors like lidar or ultrasound broadcast (not necessarily visible) light or sound or whatever, and sense the reflections, but a passive sensor like a digital camera needs an external source of light bouncing off of stuff. Cameras are cheap. Light is cheap. Video processing is very well developed. I think it's pretty plausible that they'd use video and so require lights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    sugarman wrote: »
    Skyscrapper was set in Hong Kong, so you can almost guarantee there would there would be dodgy cost cutting building works if it was a real building!

    Or Dublin,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    Anything to do with biology, particularly genetics. Watched 'Thunderforce' last night, (I know, I know, don't judge), and I started up with, 'why would a sequencing platform rearrange your DNA...?'. My boyfriend told me to zip it and stop nitpicking again. Star Trek the Next Generation is particularly bad for this. I think when they wrote scripts they had a generic line 'insert technobabble here', hence none of it makes any kind of sense.

    I've also noticed a weird trend in films where biologists are always evil people who have no problem causing mayhem with their pesky tinkering. You don't seem to have the same bias towards physicists or tech related things which is weird considering the real life ethical dilemmas we see with widespread data mining or the development of AI to name but two examples.

    Tachyon it was always Tachyons of some variety


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    When I watch any movies or TV program I know it is all fake. If they showed reality it would not be entertainment. I hate the people who go this is fake this is how its done. OF COURSE it will be fake its entertainment not reality


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    When I watch any movies or TV program I know it is all fake. If they showed reality it would not be entertainment. I hate the people who go this is fake this is how its done. OF COURSE it will be fake its entertainment not reality
    If that's your attitude, why bother making the movie? Just film a script read-through. Cost's a couple of grand. Job done. Special effects? Just fakery. Costumes? They're actors anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,690 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    All the Criminal Minds type shows where they can just routinely bring up records/hotel bills and and the like of somebody they are trying to find. Even the IRS couldnt do that, nor would the documents always be nicely stored on their systems as images.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Yeah pretty much any film were a boss or manager is nice to their employees. That sh!t fake as fuk, nobody is nice in real life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I never had a job that was good enough to ruin a film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Yeah I found Boogie Nights hard to watch due to my day job.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    Yeah I found Boogie Nights hard to watch due to my day job.

    Bus boy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    bop1977 wrote: »
    In the tv show Silicon Valley one of the lads ends up on a ship. The ship has a robot controlled warehouse. Robot driving forklift and the like. As he is walking around the lights on the roof are on. Why. Why are the lights on. Robots don’t need lights. They have sensors.

    Silicon Valley ruined.

    That actually reminds me of Terminator 2. Why does text appear in the terminator's vision? Surely any data he's receiving would just go straight to his brain. It's like he's reading stuff displayed on the inside of his eyeball.

    Another bugbear is using big sciencey sounding words for the sake of it. Star Trek stands out here with Positronic and the aforementioned Tachyon.

    The closest I have for something that is related to my job is Cocktail starring Tom Cruise. The only part of that I could relate to was getting screamed at by customers 5 deep at the bar and getting soaked to the skin by drink. Thank f*ck I'm not a bartender anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Melanchthon


    When I watch any movies or TV program I know it is all fake. If they showed reality it would not be entertainment. I hate the people who go this is fake this is how its done. OF COURSE it will be fake its entertainment not reality

    https://youtu.be/C_AmdvxbPT8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    "The files are located on the CIAs encrypted servers, pass me that laptop....*tap*....*tap*...*tap*..............I'm in"

    Another thing easy to get into in the movies is cars, no one in the movies ever locks their car


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