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The deal with dealers? Want to avoid horror stories ...

  • 19-06-2019 4:06pm
    #1
    sarkozy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭


    Hey all. I'm looking for some advice. I'm thinking of getting a new car, probably something small, on PCP. I have some thoughts on what I'm looking for, but being new to all this, I'm actually terrified about being sold a pup at a dealer's. My budget is my budget and I won't want to be up-sold.

    Maybe I just have the wrong idea about dealers these days?

    What sort of things should I look out for? How do I know if the dealer is trustworthy?

    I'll travel if it means getting a decent dealer.


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  • #2
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    PCP is only on new or nearly new cars. They are usually not cowboys. Just call into a few different brands and tell them your budget, deposit/monthly payments/ballon payment, and see what they offer.


  • #3
    corks finest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭corks finest


    sarkozy wrote: »
    Hey all. I'm looking for some advice. I'm thinking of getting a new car, probably something small, on PCP. I have some thoughts on what I'm looking for, but being new to all this, I'm actually terrified about being sold a pup at a dealer's. My budget is my budget and I won't want to be up-sold.

    Maybe I just have the wrong idea about dealers these days?

    What sort of things should I look out for? How do I know if the dealer is trustworthy?

    I'll travel if it means getting a decent dealer.
    Word of mouth from a reliable relative, having bought and traded/ sold cars for the past 36 years( just for myself,and on occasion a family member) I can recommend 2 honest dealers in Dublin,one 2 in Cork and another in Cahir Tipperary,I've had 3 Japanese imports and can't recommend them highly enough, hybrid is the way to go for a low mileage high spec automatic reliable car,be it Toyota Prius/ Honda insight/ fit ,p.m. me if I can be of help


  • #4
    sarkozy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭sarkozy


    corks finest wrote:
    Word of mouth from a reliable relative, having bought and traded/ sold cars for the past 36 years( just for myself,and on occasion a family member) I can recommend 2 honest dealers in Dublin,one 2 in Cork and another in Cahir Tipperary,I've had 3 Japanese imports and can't recommend them highly enough, hybrid is the way to go for a low mileage high spec automatic reliable car,be it Toyota Prius/ Honda insight/ fit ,p.m. me if I can be of help
    So you'd actually trust friends or relatives over dealers? Is it better to know what you're looking for that way, and maybe looking online, before going into a dealership? Like I said, worried about getting the right car for me and not getting fleeced. Even still, I dunno why I'm scared of talking to dealers - any tips for dealing with dealers?


  • #5
    corks finest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭corks finest


    sarkozy wrote: »
    corks finest wrote:
    Word of mouth from a reliable relative, having bought and traded/ sold cars for the past 36 years( just for myself,and on occasion a family member) I can recommend 2 honest dealers in Dublin,one 2 in Cork and another in Cahir Tipperary,I've had 3 Japanese imports and can't recommend them highly enough, hybrid is the way to go for a low mileage high spec automatic reliable car,be it Toyota Prius/ Honda insight/ fit ,p.m. me if I can be of help
    So you'd actually trust friends or relatives over dealers? Is it better to know what you're looking for that way, and maybe looking online, before going into a dealership? Like I said, worried about getting the right car for me and not getting fleeced. Even still, I dunno why I'm scared of talking to dealers - any tips for dealing with dealers?
    No u missed my point,,,,,I go to relatives etc to ask about their experiences etc,I'm not naive, anyone burnt by a dealer will tell the world FYI I always but from a dealer,out of approximately 40 vehicles I bought privately 3/3 times,SIMI DEALER ALWAYS,KADT 3 CARS- autodirect.ie/ Jim Carey Cahir co Tipperary,Darragh o Reagan Newcastle co Dublin


  • #6
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    SIMI is basically a club, and nobody’s ever been thrown out. Just pay the annual sub is all they want, it’s no indication of quality.

    OP if you’re buying a new car in PCP then it’s unlikely you’ll get into bother wherever you buy it.


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  • #7
    corks finest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭corks finest


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    SIMI is basically a club, and nobody’s ever been thrown out. Just pay the annual sub is all they want, it’s no indication of quality.

    OP if you’re buying a new car in PCP then it’s unlikely you’ll get into bother wherever you buy it.
    Was talking about 2nd hand obviously,,,, never had a new car,had a new pajero sport once for 2years,,,, business wallop ,back to bank


  • #8
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    If you don't want to be upsold on anything then all you have to do is say you don't want something they're offering. You don't need paint protection packs, you don't need a bigger car than what you're looking at, you don't need a bigger spec model unless you actual do want more features.

    Always haggle on the price, if they offer to throw on an option for free, there could be a lot more where that came from.

    You're free to walk away and think about it, you're also free to price up the same car at another dealer for a better price. Give yourself time to have a proper look around, take a few test drives.

    Buying a car is an exciting time, hope you have fun :)


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's your budget, and what kinda car are you looking at? Have any particular brands/models jumped out at you?

    I always advise just using donedeal. Take a while mooching through the different options within your budget and go from there. If you ring a dealer and say "I'm interested in your €5,000 Clio, can i take it for a spin?", when you arrive they're not going to say 'that Clio is nice, but this €18,000 Kadjar is even nicer..'.

    I've never had a car dealer offer me any car other than the one I specifically went to view. Even then, most just ask for my driver's license, and then hand me the keys. I've never really had an upsell or even a hard-sell on the car I was looking at (albeit I've mostly dealt with indy dealers, don't think I've ever bought from a franchised one).


  • #10
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    If you don't ask, they won't tell.
    Have a list of questions prepared.


  • #11
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Good advice here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8VYNFzmJIQ


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