2019 All Ireland Senior Football Championship Mod note: Post #1

kilns · 15-07-2019 3:30pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

I don't condone any instances of cynical play from any side. I also don't condone grown men booing free takers. Don't think I could be clearer.

Anyways, back to the 2019 championship...

Darn are you are a wiley politician from Mayo? :P

ToBeFrank123 · 15-07-2019 3:30pm

Right, back to this championship.
Its obvious Kerry are going to qualify for the semis.
With Donegal probably to follow them.
Dublin and Tyrone from the other group.

The 4 strongest all year in the championship so no surprises who will make it through.

gormdubhgorm · 15-07-2019 3:33pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Right, back to this championship.
Its obvious Kerry are going to qualify for the semis.
With Donegal probably to follow them.
Dublin and Tyrone from the other group.

The 4 strongest all year in the championship so no surprises who will make it through.

I think it is unwise to write off Cork and the Rossies.

ToBeFrank123 · 15-07-2019 3:34pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

My Prediciton for the weekend super 8's

Donegal 3-14 Kerry 0-12

Meath 1-13 Mayo 0-13

Dublin 4-15 Roscommon 1-08

Cork 1-10 Tryone 0-10

It will be interesting to see if Kerry can put back to back weekends together. Its not something they are used to.

Given how average Mayo have been this year, Meath could easily match them.

Donegal to beat Kerry by 3 points. Dublin to beat Roscommon by quite a margin. Meath and Mayo to draw. Cork and Tyrone to draw.

gormdubhgorm · 15-07-2019 3:39pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if Kerry can put back to back weekends together. Its not something they are used to.

Given how average Mayo have been this year, Meath could easily match them.

Donegal to beat Kerry by 3 points. Dublin to beat Roscommon by quite a margin. Meath and Mayo to draw. Cork and Tyrone to draw.

Well if draws come up fair play to ya.
In fairness it could happen.
The Meath and Cork games are two games worth going to see.
I was impressed with Cork I think they have the forwards/movement to beat tyrone and can slow the game when needs be.
They can't go running at them though.

I think Meath are a coming force, and Mayo are going the opposite way.
I kinda hope Dublin do not hammer Roscommon as I like the way the Rossies play.

Hammer Archer · 15-07-2019 3:39pm

snowgal wrote: »

Is there any chance at all at all we could get back to talking about the current 2019 championship , pleassssse? It was funny ten pages ago but now..........
Please start a new thread now, you can call it 'lee keegan threw something, but, but, the Dubs booed us-discuss'

Indeed.
Everyone, please stop bitching about the 2017 All Ireland Final. Stop bitching about fans booing. And stop sneakily trying to bring the whole Dublin financial debate into this thread. Because we all know those arguments go round and round with not a single person moving from their position. It's incredibly tedious when you've seen it for the umpteenth time.
I've added a related note in the OP of the thread so there are no excuses from here on in.

Nidgeweasel · 15-07-2019 3:43pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

My Prediciton for the weekend super 8's

Donegal 3-14 Kerry 0-12

Meath 1-13 Mayo 0-13

Dublin 4-15 Roscommon 1-08

Cork 1-10 Tryone 0-10

Well jaysus if those scores come in i'll not be in work for a week.

Coillte_Bhoy · 15-07-2019 3:48pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think it is unwise to write off Cork and the Rossies.

What? How on earth can you not write off the Rossies? They'll get tanked by Dublin and even if they were to beat Cork they would still be behind Tyrone on H2H

ArnoldJRimmer · 15-07-2019 3:48pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think it is unwise to write off Cork and the Rossies.

Whatever about Cork, the Rossies chance came and went over the weekend. A bit more composure in front of goals and a bit less enthusiasm in the tackle that resulted in scorable frees, and who knows. But Roscommon are not beating Dublin, and it'll take an unlikely sequence of results/ scoring difference to qualify otherwise. It would be great if Cork could blow the group open by beating Tyrone

Intriguing clash between Donegal and Kerry coming up. Kerry had their most impressive performance year to date, Donegal looked slightly more wobbly than usual, but both won by large margins in the end. I find it difficult to pick a winner from this one, a couple of points either way. Meath are gonna really put it up to Mayo, and you never know, but still expect Mayo to win in the end

kilns · 15-07-2019 3:49pm

Wins for Donegal, Mayo, Dublin and Tyrone this weekend.

henke · 15-07-2019 3:53pm

Kerry after the weekend take Donegal's media crown of "team most likely to put it up to the Dubs" but if we win next weekend we can get that title back. I predict a high scoring game. Donegal are putting up impressive scores but giving up a lot of opportunities for the opposition. Kerry are a side who can take those chances. Hard game to call. We definitely need to tighten up.

I would like to see Cork beat Tyrone but think they may be too seasoned at this stage of championship to beat them as it almost certainly knock them out.

C__MC · 15-07-2019 6:12pm

The one thing the stands to Kerry is there footballing ability and conquering the basic skills of the game
Broad statement but most teams cant do this

Under fitzmaurice they where rudderless but stayed in most games due to the above

gormdubhgorm · 15-07-2019 7:19pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What? How on earth can you not write off the Rossies? They'll get tanked by Dublin and even if they were to beat Cork they would still be behind Tyrone on H2H

Sorry you are right that reads daft. What I meant is Roscommon could still have an impact on the final standings of the group.
They are capable of beating Cork and wrecking Cork's chances of getting out of the group.
Conversely Cork could win thier last two games knocking Tyrone out.

I have Cork and Roscommon down as anything could happen on thier day teams.
I do think Dublin will have too much for Roscommon though. They just do not have the defenders to sustain the onslaught. If it was in the hyde, I would give them some sort of chance.

gormdubhgorm · 15-07-2019 7:23pm

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Intriguing clash between Donegal and Kerry coming up. Kerry had their most impressive performance year to date, Donegal looked slightly more wobbly than usual, but both won by large margins in the end. I find it difficult to pick a winner from this one, a couple of points either way. Meath are gonna really put it up to Mayo, and you never know, but still expect Mayo to win in the end

I think those two games are ones the neutrals will be tuning into for sure.
In fairness barring the Dublin game, the other three games are hard enough to call.
The more I think of it I might as well go to the Meath and Kerry games.
Should be great value entertainment for the neutral.

manofwisdom · 15-07-2019 8:40pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

My Prediciton for the weekend super 8's

Donegal 3-14 Kerry 0-12

Meath 1-13 Mayo 0-13

Dublin 4-15 Roscommon 1-08

Cork 1-10 Tryone 0-10

Kerry after scoring 1-22 yesterday to score just 0-12 against a less than water tight Donegal defence?

Meath v Mayo will be higher scoring game than that

Dublin capable but to beat Roscommon by a bigger margin that they beat Meath and Cork?

Tyrone who scored 5-74 in their last 4 games to only score 0-10 against Cork who have the worst defence of the 8 teams left in the championship?

sheroman01 · 15-07-2019 10:47pm

I'll give my predicitons too:

Donegal 0-14 Kerry 1-16

Meath 1-14 Mayo 2-17

Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-12

Cork 0-14 Tryone 2-15

robbiezero · 15-07-2019 11:14pm

Donegal really will not want to have to go to Castlebar needing a win if they lose to Kerry, whereas Kerry would be fairly confident of beating Meath in the last round.

Donegal to shade a close game for me.
Dublin to fillet Roscommon.
Tyrone to strangle and fairly comfortably beat Cork.
Mayo to beat Meath just about and give themselves a fighting chance of getting through in their last home game.

Should get 3 good games and 1 turkey shoot I think.

gormdubhgorm · 15-07-2019 11:15pm

manofwisdom wrote: »

Kerry after scoring 1-22 yesterday to score just 0-12 against a less than water tight Donegal defence?

Meath v Mayo will be higher scoring game than that

Dublin capable but to beat Roscommon by a bigger margin that they beat Meath and Cork?

Tyrone who scored 5-74 in their last 4 games to only score 0-10 against Cork who have the worst defence of the 8 teams left in the championship?

Well I was thinking that Donegal will do a job on Kerry - revert to defensive style at times then when they attack they will get goals against that Kerry defence.

I think the Cork Tyrone game could be cagey. I just liked the way Cork kept the ball for long periods against Dublin then varied the pace when they felt it was needed. Plus Tyrone are set up to dig in and pick off scores.
I think Cork have the beating of Tyrone if they get thier tactics right, they have pace and power.
The Cork wing backs should be ideal up against Tyrone.

Anytime I have seen Roscommon in Croke Park they looked really lost the big pitch does not suit them. Dublin will have thier defence ran ragged.

Meath v Mayo.
Yeah I might revise that one, they are hardly defensively sound teams, but my initial thought was it could be cagey and tense.
In my head they are well matched.

I will probably get all the predictions wrong anyway. I don't bet anymore for a reason!

patmac · 15-07-2019 11:22pm

Roscommon not out of it yet, assuming Dublin win all 3 games, Cork could beat Tyrone and Roscommon then could beat Cork, unlikely I know but if Roscommon are to stand any chance they will have to go super defensive against the Dubs.
Mayo are fecked imho, I think Meath might beat them this weekend.

gormdubhgorm · 15-07-2019 11:28pm

patmac wrote: »

Roscommon not out of it yet, assuming Dublin win all 3 games, Cork could beat Tyrone and Roscommon then could beat Cork, unlikely I know but if Roscommon are to stand any chance they will have to go super defensive against the Dubs.
Mayo are fecked imho, I think Meath might beat them this weekend.

Yeah, I don't know what else Roscommon can do they will just have to try and make the game as ugly as possible.
If they can keep it to a 6-7 point loss they might have some hope considering Cork are -13 now.

blowitupref · 15-07-2019 11:41pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Anytime I have seen Roscommon in Croke Park they looked really lost the big pitch does not suit them. Dublin will have thier defence ran ragged.

Apart from the drawn game v Mayo in 2017 the rossies have looked a bit lost in their last few Croke Park championship games but i don't think its anything to do with a big pitch as the pitch in Hyde Park is apparently a similar size.

Dots1982 · 16-07-2019 8:23am

kilns wrote: »

English soccer type attitude amongst most Dublin supporters, care to share reasons backed up with examples...

I saw a classic from a twitter account. Dublin lad pleads that the media leave Connolly alone because he is an “amateur”

Tweet from same account before that one, he is calling Aidan O’se a big pansy who wouldn’t bate eggs. Total hypocrisy. Loads of it out there.

@DHigggins is his account

kilns · 16-07-2019 8:28am

Dots1982 wrote: »

I saw a classic from a twitter account. Dublin lad pleads that the media leave Connolly alone because he is an “amateur”

Tweet from same account before that one, he is calling Aidan O’se a big pansy who wouldn’t bate eggs. Total hypocrisy. Loads of it out there.

@DHigggins is his account

huh?

gormdubhgorm · 16-07-2019 8:34am

blowitupref wrote: »

Apart from the drawn game v Mayo in 2017 the rossies have looked a bit lost in their last few Croke Park championship games but i don't think its anything to do with a big pitch as the pitch in Hyde Park is apparently a similar size.

Yeah but it's not the 'home comfort' of the Hyde.
They were really unlucky against Dublin there in the league two scrappy goals from the Dubs.

beggars_bush · 16-07-2019 8:59am

Mod Edit: Nope, not going back to that again.

ToBeFrank123 · 16-07-2019 10:47am

sheroman01 wrote: »

I'll give my predicitons too:

Donegal 0-14 Kerry 1-16

Meath 1-14 Mayo 2-17

Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-12

Cork 0-14 Tryone 2-15

If Cork can tighten up their defence they could come close to Tyrone. But if we see the same gaps at the back as they were against Kerry and Dublin, then Tyrone could run riot.

I'm still tipping a tight game as Cork surely can't be as bad at the back again.

There's some serious talent up front though, they are running up big enough scores.

blowitupref · 16-07-2019 12:08pm

For this weekend i reckon

Tyrone 3-16 Cork 1-13
Dublin 1-19 Roscommon 1-10
Mayo 2-14 Meath 2-12
Kerry 2-16 Donegal 1-17

Johner · 16-07-2019 12:21pm

Was impressed with Cork against Dublin but I think Tyrone will do a job on them.

Dublin will obviously beat Roscommon.

The other two games could go either way, I'll go for Meath and Donegal to edge them. Meath look a bit of value in the betting.

Bass Reeves · 16-07-2019 12:25pm

blowitupref wrote: »

For this weekend i reckon

Tyrone 3-16 Cork 1-13
Dublin 1-19 Roscommon 1-10
Mayo 2-14 Meath 2-12
Kerry 2-16 Donegal 1-17

paddy powers has it handicapped as follows

Kerry +1 over Donegal
Mayo +3 over Meath
Tyrone +4 over Cork
Dublin +17 over Roscommon

They will have have lenghtened the Dublin handicap as they will expect that there will be more betting on Dublin because of Population difference.

Stoner · 16-07-2019 12:36pm

blowitupref wrote:

Tyrone 3-16 Cork 1-13 Dublin 1-19 Roscommon 1-10 Mayo 2-14 Meath 2-12 Kerry 2-16 Donegal 1-17

I don't think Tyrone will score 3 against Cork.

Bar a penno I don't think Roscommon will score a goal against Dublin, I think Dublin might score 2 goals against them rather than one.

Not sure about Kerry Donegal, hard to call, I'd favour Donegal, just about, but it might be viewed as a meaningless game if both think they will beat Meath and Mayo regardless.

TBH, I think Meath have it in them to beat a shell shocked Mayo, particularly in midfield. But you'd never know how Mayo will respond.

Nidgeweasel · 16-07-2019 1:06pm

Stoner wrote: »

TBH, I think Meath have it in them to beat a shell shocked Mayo, particularly in midfield. But you'd never know how Mayo will respond.

Given up trying to figure out what they're about myself. Could still feasibly end up in a semi final.

snowgal · 16-07-2019 1:09pm

The only score Id be sure of is Dublin v Ross, that the Dubs will win!
Depending which Cork appear, I dont think they'll be pushovers. They are expert goal getters and I think it'll be a high scoring game actually. Would love to see a Cork win to liven that side up abit!
Donegal v Kerry is a minefield to me. No matter what, I dont think Kerry will be as pumped as Sunday gone, I just dont think thats mentally possible. All this talk of them this week doesn't really help either. They had one mighty game yes, but lets see what this Sunday brings. The idea of more or less unmarkable Clifford on one team and unstoppable Murphy on the other, is mouthwatering lads!!So hard to call, Im going with a draw!
and Meath Mayo, well.......... I remember Meath in 97 when we played Offaly in the Leinster final and we were damned with injuries, suspensions etc and had just come out of the dogfight 3 in a row games with Kildare. We were the walking wounded that day and we were more or less destroyed, just like Mayo were. Alot of similarities... The difference was we were out, no more chances. Mayo however do have a chance to redeem themselves and thats my big worry..Depending who they can get back by Sunday and how their minds are, they could be dangerous. However from a Meath point of view, we never ever fear Mayo and we reallly like to beat them so again very tough call. 2nd Draw!!

Comic Book Guy · 16-07-2019 3:42pm

I can't see it confirmed anywhere else yet but Cork V Roscommon is fixed for Sunday August 4th at 4pm in Pairc Ui Rinn (Pairc Ui Chaoimh is being resurfaced) according to Roscommon GAA twitter account.

It would probably mean the Group 1 games would be the previous Saturday evening.

ArnoldJRimmer · 16-07-2019 3:43pm

Comic Book Guy wrote: »

I can't see it confirmed anywhere else yet but Cork V Roscommon is fixed for Sunday August 4th at 4pm in Pairc Ui Rinn (Pairc Ui Chaoimh is being resurfaced) according to Roscommon GAA twitter account.

It would probably mean the Group 1 games would be the previous Saturday evening.

I saw on the official Donegal account on Twitter that the group 1 games are 6pm on Saturday August 3rd

prettyboy81 · 16-07-2019 4:05pm

Tyrone 2-13 v 1-14 Cork

Dublin 3-18 v 0-14 Ross

Meath 1-13 v 0-14 Mayo

Kerry 2-15 v 1-15 Donegal

Bass Reeves · 16-07-2019 4:11pm

prettyboy81 wrote: »

Tyrone 2-13 v 1-14 Cork

Dublin 3-18 v 0-14 Ross

Meath 1-13 v 0-14 Mayo

Kerry 2-15 v 1-15 Donegal

TBH trying to predict the scores in 3-4 matches is like trying to pick the lotto numbers. It may be even harder. You have three of the games with a one, two and three point difference. its hard to see them all that close. Some games are more risky than other. Meath and Mayo both have ti win to stay in the championship. If either are 2-3 points down with 5 minutes to go they may need to go looking for goals which may allow the other team to win by 5-10 points. While both Kerry and Donegal can afford a loss neither can afford a 5+ point loss. This could be a game that stays very tight. Cork needs to beat Tyrone which may leave them open at the back late in the game. Tyrone need to win as beating Dublin in Clones while not impossible is a tough task if you need the result. If they are a point or two down with 5 to go they would have to take risks.

Its hard not to see Dublin not winning with a bit to spare against Roscommon

Coillte_Bhoy · 16-07-2019 4:11pm

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

I saw on the official Donegal account on Twitter that the group 1 games are 6pm on Saturday August 3rd

Great stuff. Love the Saturday night games

Slattsy · 16-07-2019 5:15pm

Unfortunately for Roscommon I can see us beating them by 20+ points. The handicap in the bookies is 14, which seems extremely kind.

The obvious pitfall is whether Dublin decide to go for the massacre... or not.

robbiezero · 16-07-2019 5:20pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Unfortunately for Roscommon I can see us beating them by 20+ points. The handicap in the bookies is 14, which seems extremely kind.

The obvious pitfall is whether Dublin decide to go for the massacre... or not.

Might depend on Cork result.
If Cork win, there is the possibility of the last 2 places being decided on score difference.
If Cork lose, dubs need only win to take score difference out of equation.
Having said that, the competition for places probably ensures that they will be going hard all game.

ToBeFrank123 · 16-07-2019 5:23pm

There is no way a neutral game between Dublin and Roscommon should be played at Croker.

This is the one glaring mistake in the Super 8 format.

I know Roscommon people, especially those living in Dublin, would like to see their team play in Croker, but do they really want to see them hammered out the gate if it comes to that?

Sonny678 · 16-07-2019 5:25pm

Meath should be able to beat Mayo and Donegal in a years time or the year after, but Sunday is probaly to soon. All these games in super 8 and div 1. All these 10 games in next 10 months v top division 1 teams v top teams in the country is invaluable to these young Meath players. This experience is priceless. And if Meath stay in divsion 1 , more experience is gained.

Look at Roscommon last year hammered at super 8 stage and hammered by Tyrone last year, they only lost by 4 points on Sat to Tyrone , and Rossies beat Mayo and Galway this year. It will be the same for Meath. Next year Meath will be battle hardened by these 10 division 1 games.

Also McEntee will be in year 4 and younger players like Conlon Devine Ryan Campion and Walsh will have had great experience playing top teams , young exciting forwards coming thru eg Luke Mitchell Matthew Costello of the underage teams. And the return of maybe 8 or more ex panelist to the panel next year eg Donal lenihan, Ronan Jones, Eamon Wallace , Joey Wallace, Alan Forde , Ruari O Coilean, Niall kane , Paddy Kennelly. Maybe even Harry Rooney. While players like Lavin , Harnan , J McEntee, S McEntee, Sullivan , McGill , McMahon Wallace , Flanagan ,Kennelly , Forde are all around 24 to 25 age mark will start to peak as footballers next summer and the summer after.

Its pretty obvious Meath are on an upward trajectory and Meath are going to get stronger and stronger. And next summer and the following year in 2021 this team will start to peak. Remeber this team is 12 to 24 months before it peaks . And it does take time. Every team in the history of football take years of ups and downs before sucess. It took allot of that Dublin team 6 years before they got to an All Ireland final and years of bad defeats to kerry , Mayo Cork and bad hammerings to Meath and kerry before they achieved their aims. They were coming from an higher level. They were 5th or 6th best team in country in 2005.It took them til 2011 til they became the 1st , the best. Meath were 15th best team in country last season. They are now 8th and at lowest 9th best team in the country. Meath want to break into top 6 or 7 teams and stay there in divsion 1 and win leinster. That will take more morale victories hard luck losess. Again in 12 months time Meath will be a much better team

Of course it would be brilliant if we beat Mayo and if we did and had a chance of reaching semi final it would be outstanding achievement by players and management from.where we were last spring being near relegated to divsion 3 and losing to longford. Now we are comprehensivly beating teams like longford eg Carlow Laois and comprehensivly beating top division 2 teams eg Armagh, kildare Fermanagh and Cork. And really putting it up two best teams in country eg Donegal and Tyrone that is serious improvement in 12 months. And looking at age profile of the team the average age is 24 , and on sunday we had Conlon 21 , Campion 20 , Devine 20 and Walsh 19 all playing in the forwards. Anyone who knows anything about sport knows sportspeople with potential who are 19 or 20 years of age can only get better. This Meath team will only get better. But beating Mayo could be a step to far. Kildare and Roscommon were in. our position last year and failed to win any games. Galway were promoted in 2017 and struggled at super 8 / quater final stage. If we suceed where Galway in failed 2017 and kildare and Roscommon failed in 2018 that would be an unbelievably good sign for the future.

Meath are no longer going in the right direction. Meath are in a new category , Meath are a coming team with potential. A team for the future, a team to look out for in next 2 to 3 years. Some of gaa community outside county are starting to notice this. Tomas O Se did say Meath surprised him on Sunday , Meath were very good. Kieran Donaghy said Meath were very good also and are playing some exciting football with new exciting talent.

Beating Mayo on Sunday will be very difficult. Kerry hammering Mayo is worst that could have happened to Meath. Mayo will be up for this on sunday. But u never know. An young up and coming team beating Mayo where did we see that before. In 1996 and 2009 of course. We are a bogey team of sorts for Mayo and all these things help. We have problem beating Ulster teams in the last ten years but for 70 or 80 years Connacht teams and Mayo teams have had problems beating Meath. U just never know. They say Meath dont lose to Mayo. If we beat them on Sunday and beat their greatest team since All Ireland winning team of 1950 and 1951. Well that saying really must be true. But overall its not what happens next sunday , its what happens next spring and next summer and in 2021 that will define this team. And the direction is upward in direction and is very much a positive one.

franglan · 16-07-2019 5:43pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

There is no way a neutral game between Dublin and Roscommon should be played at Croker.

This is the one glaring mistake in the Super 8 format.

I know Roscommon people, especially those living in Dublin, would like to see their team play in Croker, but do they really want to see them hammered out the gate if it comes to that?

Speaking on behalf of the Rossie nation:

No.

BonnieSituation · 16-07-2019 5:52pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

There is no way a neutral game between Dublin and Roscommon should be played at Croker.

This is the one glaring mistake in the Super 8 format.

I know Roscommon people, especially those living in Dublin, would like to see their team play in Croker, but do they really want to see them hammered out the gate if it comes to that?

Give it a rest. The game is in Croker. It is not designated a neutral game it is designated as a Croke Park game. That's why all 4 matches are in CROKE PARK this weekend. It's beyond tiresome to have to have this explained for the umpteenth time.

ArnoldJRimmer · 16-07-2019 6:11pm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Give it a rest. The game is in Croker. It is not designated a neutral game it is designated as a Croke Park game. That's why all 4 matches are in CROKE PARK this weekend. It's beyond tiresome to have to have this explained for the umpteenth time.

Okay, at the risk of dragging this thread down into a Dublin's advantages conversation again, Padraig Duffy repeatedly said one home, one away and one neutral while trying to sell the Super 8's to everyone. Then snuck in the 'Croke Park' part in time for congress. So while the games are going ahead as it was worded in the proposal, it was sneaky as fcuk as to how it was pushed through. We don't know if this would have made a difference due to the lack of transparency with the delegates votes, but people have every right to point out the unfairness of Dublin having two home games

sheroman01 · 16-07-2019 6:14pm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Give it a rest. The game is in Croker. It is not designated a neutral game it is designated as a Croke Park game. That's why all 4 matches are in CROKE PARK this weekend. It's beyond tiresome to have to have this explained for the umpteenth time.

There's two arguments here - 1) Dublin should not be playing their home games in Croke Park, and 2) No Super 8 games shouldn't be played in Croke Park, instead they should be neutral.

I'm still unsure about the latter. I'd probably prefer that they weren't played in Croker, but not overly fussed.

As for Dublin playing home games in Croke Park, well, it's obvious that this should not be the case. I still don't know how this hasn't been changed. It makes it so much worse that the current Super 8s setup DOES include Croke Park, and Dublin play their twice.

The Super 8s highlights the absurdity of Dublin getting two Croke Park games.

And no, we won't stop talking about it because it needs to be addressed.

blowitupref · 16-07-2019 6:36pm

Stoner wrote: »

I don't think Tyrone will score 3 against Cork.

Bar a penno I don't think Roscommon will score a goal against Dublin, I think Dublin might score 2 goals against them rather than one.

Not sure about Kerry Donegal, hard to call, I'd favour Donegal, just about, but it might be viewed as a meaningless game if both think they will beat Meath and Mayo regardless.

TBH, I think Meath have it in them to beat a shell shocked Mayo, particularly in midfield. But you'd never know how Mayo will respond.

The thoughts behind those predictions.

Tyrone scored 3 goals v Cork last year and Cork haven't shored up their defence at all this year. While classed as defensive team Tyrone happen to be a good scoring team especially against porous defenses

Dublin only scored 1 goal v Meath and none v Kildare and i think Roscommon's defence isn't as open as Louth and Cork which allowed Dublin to score 10 goals. Goal Roscommon get could well be a penalty and i expect Gavin will not allow another big score to be conceded this weekend.

Kerry have that that extra bit of momentum from last weekend's impressive win while Donegal weren't all that convincing for 3 quarters of their game v Meath. It will be a very attacking game that could go either way but i think this group is all set up for the round 3 decider/last 4 spot in MacHale Park

The worry for Meath is the way they faded badly in the last quarter v Donegal and will one week be enough time to recover. Its back to knock out football for Mayo now and thats where they are at their best and only Dublin have a better record in Croke Park the last 6 or 7 years than Mayo do.

Stoner · 16-07-2019 7:15pm

blowitupref wrote:

The worry for Meath is the way they faded badly in the last quarter v Donegal and will one week be enough time to recover. Its back to knock out football for Mayo now and thats where they are at their best and only Dublin have a better record in Croke Park the last 6 or 7 years than Mayo do.

That's all good stuff, I've seen this Mayo team beaten before, but not like that, its July now too their territory.

When meath and mayo play, Meath will be the only ones in group without an ex mayo coach on the line.

Bonniedog · 16-07-2019 7:26pm

If GAA members want Dublin not to have two games in Croke Park in the 8s -which I agree is not fair - then they should bring a motion to Congress to that effect.

A well drafted motion - unlike the one from Donegal this year whatever they were thinking - could address that issue. Perhaps by including a clause that counties could choose a neutral venue other than CP if that was their wish. would most likely only arise for the one game involving Dublin in "Croke Park game."

Alternatively designate CP as Dublin's home ground in the championship and thereby rule out their using it for a second game?

Donegal motion went about it arseways.

Always_Running · 16-07-2019 7:47pm

Yes the motion wording of it was poor, Dublin like the rest of last 8 teams should get just one game in Croke Park in the group stage. A simple yes or no on that vote.

ThunbergsAreGo · 16-07-2019 8:20pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Yes the motion wording of it was poor, Dublin like the rest of last 8 teams should get just one game in Croke Park in the group stage. A simple yes or no on that vote.

I don't think any Dublin fan would have an issue with such a motion. Would enjoy the trip away!!

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