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K.O.Kiki · 19-06-2019 11:20pm

AVGN hits 3 million subs.

20-06-2019 7:08am

EA think Lootboxes are 'Surprise Mechanics'

Deluded

https://kotaku.com/ea-our-loot-boxes-are-actually-surprise-mechanics-that-1835662012

ZiabR · 20-06-2019 8:19am

Crazy stuff. World has gone mad. With all that has happened with EA backed games in recent years, they still don't get it. Its shocking.

Penn · 20-06-2019 9:00am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Jim Sterling acting entirely reasonable is how I see it.

Interesting that that guy when reading Jim Sterling's response, chose to omit the word "homophobic". Seems like an important word given the context of the argument. I mean, he read out the other guy's much longer posts almost word for word, yet left out the word "homophobic" in Sterling's one-line response even though it's a key part of what he's saying.

Also, disagreeing with some of Youtube's policies regarding fair use and the ever-changing TOS which limits content-creators doesn't mean you also have to support certain content creators who engage in homophobic harassment.

That guy also says he used to watch all Sterling's videos but won't any more due to this. Also says he didn't know Jim was LGBTQ. Yeah right. That guy is at best being purposely disingenuous.

Penn · 20-06-2019 9:01am

Fred The Red wrote: »

EA think Lootboxes are 'Surprise Mechanics'

Deluded

https://kotaku.com/ea-our-loot-boxes-are-actually-surprise-mechanics-that-1835662012

Would a rose by another name still give a 0.0001% of unlocking Lionel Messi?

kunst nugget · 20-06-2019 9:26am

Penn wrote: »

That guy also says he used to watch all Sterling's videos but won't any more due to this. Also says he didn't know Jim was LGBTQ. Yeah right. That guy is at best being purposely disingenuous.

I didn't know anything about Jim Sterling's sexuality based on the videos I've seen of his posted up here. Is there any reason why I should have?

gizmo · 20-06-2019 9:30am

Penn wrote: »

Interesting that that guy when reading Jim Sterling's response, chose to omit the word "homophobic". Seems like an important word given the context of the argument. I mean, he read out the other guy's much longer posts almost word for word, yet left out the word "homophobic" in Sterling's one-line response even though it's a key part of what he's saying.

Also, disagreeing with some of Youtube's policies regarding fair use and the ever-changing TOS which limits content-creators doesn't mean you also have to support certain content creators who engage in homophobic harassment.

That guy also says he used to watch all Sterling's videos but won't any more due to this. Also says he didn't know Jim was LGBTQ. Yeah right. That guy is at best being purposely disingenuous.

He also left out the latter part of the "lispy queer" insult Jim gave as an example of behaviour that he deemed indefensible.

Hambly's, as you rather accurately suggest, disingenuous stance on this isn't the least bit surprising not only due to prior form on the subject but also since it was his own similarly ****ty behaviour that saw Wizards of the Coast ban him from competitive Magic The Gathering a few years ago, an event which unfortunately led to him shifting his grift attention primarily to the videogame space.

Penn · 20-06-2019 9:33am

kunst nugget wrote: »

I didn't know anything about Jim Sterling's sexuality based on the videos I've seen of his posted up here. Is there any reason why I should have?

He mentions it or at least alludes to it in his intros and outros of the Jimquisition videos every so often. If you only watch a few of his videos here and there you might not pick up on it, but the guy says "I watch basically every video Jim puts out". I think anyone who would have done that for say 6-12 months would be fairly sure he's at best not straight.

kunst nugget · 20-06-2019 9:37am

Here's a compilation of some of the insults thrown at Maza's way by Crowder.

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1134264395717103617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1134264395717103617&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fsteven-crowder-youtube-speech-carlos-maza-explained-youtube-2019-6

Retr0gamer · 20-06-2019 9:51am

The Quartering, being disingenuous and selectively picking out quotes and facts to push their agenda? Well I never...

Robert ninja · 20-06-2019 9:57am

Penn wrote: »

Interesting that that guy when reading Jim Sterling's response, chose to omit the word "homophobic". Seems like an important word given the context of the argument.

These keywords flag your video for higher chance of demonitisation so he skips them or says them differently so as to not trigger them. A poor attempt to make it out as if he's trying to hide that part of it when he's showing it clearly unfiltered on screen to hundreds of thousands.

Here's a reminder of Sterling agreeing with Sessler supporting doxing for hate speech.

Penn wrote: »

He mentions it or at least alludes to it in his intros and outros of the Jimquisition videos every so often.

Its been years since I watched any of his stuff from start to finish but I always thought it was just part of some character he was playing. It came across as clownish. That said it really doesn't matter because Sterling is a hypocrite who is fine with deplatforming and demonetising of different opinions. Which way he swings won't change that. I do remember him saying he's fine with his wife sleeping with other people, though.

Penn · 20-06-2019 10:27am

Robert ninja wrote: »

These keywords flag your video for higher chance of demonitisation so he skips them or says them differently so as to not trigger them. A poor attempt to make it out as if he's trying to hide that part of it when he's showing it clearly unfiltered on screen to hundreds of thousands.

Okay, in fairness I didn't know simply mentioning those words can lead to demonitisation, would have thought it would have to be manually flagged and looked at. And listening again, after the guy says harassment, he does mumble "phobic". So I'm happy to retract that point.

Robert ninja wrote: »

That said it really doesn't matter because Sterling is a hypocrite who is fine with deplatforming and demonetising of different opinions.

"Different opinions" does not equal homophobic harassment of an individual.

kunst nugget · 20-06-2019 10:57am

Even when it's not about games journalism, it's still about ethics in games journalism...

johnny_ultimate · 20-06-2019 11:04am

kunst nugget wrote: »

Even when it's not about games journalism, it's still about ethics in games journalism...

Important to remember that ‘ethics’ is used as a synonym for ‘non right wing voices’.

Potential-Monke · 20-06-2019 11:41am

Seeing all this conversation really solidifies my stance on not watching any YouTubers. I was never into watching them, but seeing this kind of toxicity means I'm missing absolutely nothing.

Cordell · 20-06-2019 11:59am

The late Totalbiscuit was the only youtuber actually focused on games and consumer interests during his game reviews. Now, when I need to find out something about a game I look at raw gameplay capture videos rather that listen to their ramblings.

Canis Lupus · 20-06-2019 12:28pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Seeing all this conversation really solidifies my stance on not watching any YouTubers. I was never into watching them, but seeing this kind of toxicity means I'm missing absolutely nothing.

There's plenty out there that are normal people. Just they get drowned out by bigger channels and YouTube drama.

Retr0gamer · 20-06-2019 12:28pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Seeing all this conversation really solidifies my stance on not watching any YouTubers. I was never into watching them, but seeing this kind of toxicity means I'm missing absolutely nothing.

There's good ones there in the sea of utter ****e.

There's stuff like Superbunny hope and Jeremy Parish that are worthwhile informative content.

It's just knowing who to subscribe to.

SomeSayKos · 20-06-2019 1:36pm

I watched that Crowder video and I think he should be deplatformed 100%. Enough of this toxic crap already

J. Marston · 20-06-2019 1:51pm

I like Jim in small doses. Being reminded from time to time about how EA etc are big bastards is healthy.

SomeSayKos · 20-06-2019 1:55pm

His shtick grates on me which is a shame because I agree with a lot of what he says but I just can't watch much of it. Any games coverage I tend to watch on youtube is solely focused on games with little or no 'culture wars' activity as it's mindnumbingly painful

Retr0gamer · 20-06-2019 2:09pm

He often does good stuff but I find a lot of his videos he says in 10 minutes what could have been said in a minute and a half.

Retr0gamer · 20-06-2019 2:12pm

In case anyone still cares, Ouya servers are being shut down on 25th of June.

Penn · 20-06-2019 2:14pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

He often does good stuff but I find a lot of his videos he says in 10 minutes what could have been said in a minute and a half.

They seem to be getting longer too. Used to be 10-13 minutes, now seem to be 16-20 some weeks (and that's without add-ons featuring Ubisoft or Konami he occasionally did).

J. Marston · 20-06-2019 2:19pm

On actual gaming stuff, I started Nioh about a year ago and dropped it after an hour or two. Didn't like it at all. Felt like store brand Dark Souls.

Picked it up again recently and funnily enough, now I love it. I wish more games had combat systems like it with the stances and individual weapon movesets. Plus the refashion and skins options make Fashion Souls far better!

marcbrophy · 20-06-2019 2:21pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

In case anyone still cares, Ouya servers are being shut down on 25th of June.

Pour one out for the dead platform

:pac:

TitianGerm · 20-06-2019 2:41pm

J. Marston wrote: »

On actual gaming stuff, I started Nioh about a year ago and dropped it after an hour or two. Didn't like it at all. Felt like store brand Dark Souls.

Picked it up again recently and funnily enough, now I love it. I wish more games had combat systems like it with the stances and individual weapon movesets. Plus the refashion and skins options make Fashion Souls far better!

Have you played Sekiro? Combat is really satisfying in it. Kinda reminds me of Ninja Gaiden in a strange way.

J. Marston · 20-06-2019 2:51pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Have you played Sekiro? Combat is really satisfying in it. Kinda reminds me of Ninja Gaiden in a strange way.

Waiting for it to get a bit cheaper but hearing how you can't power level past a problematic boss like in Dark Souls is worrying. I'd actually have to....git gud.

Varik · 20-06-2019 3:36pm

Cordell wrote: »

The late Totalbiscuit was the only youtuber actually focused on games and consumer interests during his game reviews. Now, when I need to find out something about a game I look at raw gameplay capture videos rather that listen to their ramblings.

He went heavy during US presidential, among other things took a swing at 3rd party voters (ie not Republican or democrat) and then put up a few public apologies to his wife after shock horror the libertarian voted for Gary Johnson. Gonna guess they made up after.

https://twitter.com/GennaBain/status/796224800377057280

Cordell · 20-06-2019 4:46pm

His political and personal opinions are of no interest to me, I only watched his gaming-related videos, which were quite free of the aforementioned afflictions

Varik · 20-06-2019 5:22pm

Cordell wrote: »

His political and personal opinions are of no interest to me, I only watched his gaming-related videos, which were quite free of the aforementioned afflictions

Said rant started out on on of his stream, before continuing out onto twitter.

Zero-Cool · 20-06-2019 10:02pm

Some chap in England decided to use GDPR to gain all the info EA had on him. He was shocked to discover he had spent 16 thousand dollars in Fifa ultimate team over 2 years ....

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1141713747251277829?s=19

eyerer · 20-06-2019 11:33pm

How do you spend that much money without realising it :pac:

Varik · 20-06-2019 11:45pm

eyerer wrote: »

How do you spend that much money without realising it :pac:

Catch 22,if you're dumb enough to spend that much then you're dumb enough to not know it.

ERG89 · 20-06-2019 11:59pm

Man, the AIB quarterly fees annoy me but this guy takes the piss. How can you be allowed to spend that much without your bank asking hey are you doing spending this or is someone else

Venom · 21-06-2019 12:31am

eyerer wrote: »

How do you spend that much money without realising it

Varik wrote: »

Catch 22,if you're dumb enough to spend that much then you're dumb enough to not know it.

ERG89 wrote: »

Man, the AIB quarterly fees annoy me but this guy takes the piss. How can you be allowed to spend that much without your bank asking hey are you doing spending this or is someone else

It's almost a year old story
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-23-fifa-player-uses-gdpr-to-find-out-everything-ea-has-on-him-realises-hes-spent-over-usd10-000-in-two-years-on-ultimate-team#comments
but I somewhat recall from reading the dudes Reddit post, that he is/was on mental level money so for him, dropping £150-200 a week just wasn't a big deal.

Retr0gamer · 21-06-2019 12:38am

Disaster Report 4 coming to the West for PS4, Switch and PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6jHR4pRxyA

21-06-2019 9:52am

J. Marston wrote: »

On actual gaming stuff, I started Nioh about a year ago and dropped it after an hour or two. Didn't like it at all. Felt like store brand Dark Souls.

Picked it up again recently and funnily enough, now I love it. I wish more games had combat systems like it with the stances and individual weapon movesets. Plus the refashion and skins options make Fashion Souls far better!

Personally tired of the formula. Nioh was good when i played it closer to when it launched but just so many clones now. Sekiro has too many issues on console and the repetition is grating after a while.

nix · 21-06-2019 1:53pm

Fred The Red wrote: »

Sekiro the repetition is grating after a while.

WHAT!? :eek:

The feck are you playing thats "less" repetitive? :pac:

TitianGerm · 21-06-2019 1:58pm

nix wrote: »

WHAT!? :eek:

The feck are you playing thats "less" repetitive? :pac:

When you keep dying I'd say it could be

21-06-2019 2:02pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

When you keep dying I'd say it could be

Absolutely but no need to be 'git gud' smarmy about it.

This is my opinion. It's ****e after a while and the souls formula is in burn out for me.

Consoles issues prevent the enjoyment. The input lag is atrocious. I progressed fairly far into it but get bored about 20 hours in.

Might be unpopular thought for some but Sekiro is overrated. I've played much better games this year.

TitianGerm · 21-06-2019 2:07pm

Fred The Red wrote: »

Absolutely but no need to be 'git gud' smarmy about it.

This is my opinion. It's ****e after a while and the souls formula is in burn out for me.

Consoles issues prevent the enjoyment. The input lag is atrocious. I progressed fairly far into it but get bored about 20 hours in.

Might be unpopular thought for some but Sekiro is overrated. I've played much better games this year.

Not meant to be smarmy. I've found if I'm patient in my attacks and don't rush into anything I very rarely die, especially with the revive mechanic.

Kept trying to dodge the first boss charge attack but quickly realized if I block the first swipe I can take a step back to avoid the next two in the chain. Once I figured that it was plain sailing.

Similar with the Shinobi hunters. Stopped attacking and just used Mikiri to wear down their stamina.

21-06-2019 2:12pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Not meant to be smarmy. I've found if I'm patient in my attacks and don't rush into anything I very rarely die, especially with the revive mechanic.

Kept trying to dodge the first boss charge attack but quickly realized if I block the first swipe I can take a step back to avoid the next two in the chain. Once I figured that it was plain sailing.

Similar with the Shinobi hunters. Stopped attacking and just used Mikiri to wear down their stamina.

Fair enough and point taken.

My issue is the clear frame pacing issues and inconstant performance.
Especially when you rotating the camera in quick succession.
And there have been so many times I'm certain I'm pressing the block or attack buttons but the reaction is delayed dependent of the split second where the dips in performance has happened.

I find From Software are terrible for after release support. They have yet to fix this months later.
A simple fix to lock the frame-rate to 30 could stabilize it. And this is on the Xbox One X. Digital foundry analysis shows it can jump from 60 - 30 in a short space of time.
And their games are held on some weird higher pedestal than everyone else and seem to be immune to criticism at times.

Rant over!

21-06-2019 2:12pm

Sekiro was definitely a disappointment for me, I played up until I reached the village, can't recall the name of it, and said I'd take a break for a while as I wasn't really enjoying it and never went back.
I like the soulsborne formula but Sekiro just didn't click at all.

nix · 21-06-2019 2:26pm

Fred The Red wrote: »

And their games are held on some weird higher pedestal than everyone else and seem to be immune to criticism at times.

Fair enough Fred, sorry i was just genuinely interested on what you found repetitive, i played this particular from software on PC so cant relate to the input lag, i have played all others on PS4 but didnt have input lag issues, just the dips in frame rate.

And on the point above, most of the "immune to criticism" points i see are they were too hard and gave up before learning how to play. Which from what i witnessed, happened a lot more with Sekiro since probably Demon souls i predict.

Which is because they "flipped" the combat formula in this game from "sometimes block and mostly attack" to "mostly block to sometimes attack" to simplify it, which i dont think a lot of soulsborne players grasped before they gave up, was nearly one of them meself

21-06-2019 2:37pm

nix wrote: »

Fair enough Fred, sorry i was just genuinely interested on what you found repetitive, i played this particular from software on PC so cant relate to the input lag, i have played all others on PS4 but didnt have input lag issues, just the dips in frame rate.

And on the point above, most of the "immune to criticism" points i see are they were too hard and gave up before learning how to play. Which from what i witnessed, happened a lot more with Sekiro since probably Demon souls i predict.

Which is because they "flipped" the combat formula in this game from "sometimes block and mostly attack" to "mostly block to sometimes attack" to simplify it, which i dont think a lot of soulsborne players grasped before they gave up, was nearly one of them meself

Just to elaborate here I actually prefer the combat system here but timing is critical.
It's the performance that doesn't stack up to what it's trying to achieve on console.
I was left stupidly frustrated not because I was making mistakes but because the technical issues in high intensity fights were causing the problems.
It was more problematic in certain areas of the game as obviously it runs better or worse in certain sections. Again all performance related.
I'd probably feel much different if I played at a locked 60fps on PC

21-06-2019 2:44pm

On a lighter note, the above. The amount of cringe :pac:

TitianGerm · 21-06-2019 2:56pm

Fred The Red wrote: »

Fair enough and point taken.

My issue is the clear frame pacing issues and inconstant performance.
Especially when you rotating the camera in quick succession.
And there have been so many times I'm certain I'm pressing the block or attack buttons but the reaction is delayed dependent of the split second where the dips in performance has happened.

I find From Software are terrible for after release support. They have yet to fix this months later.
A simple fix to lock the frame-rate to 30 could stabilize it. And this is on the Xbox One X. Digital foundry analysis shows it can jump from 60 - 30 in a short space of time.
And their games are held on some weird higher pedestal than everyone else and seem to be immune to criticism at times.

Rant over!

Weren't all the DS games built with 60FPS in mind though and a lot of the iFrames were based on that? Think I remember reading something about it before where it was easier to parry on PC than console.

I have Sekiro on PC with a Ryzen 1700 and a RTX2060 and it's 60FPS solid and the highest settings. I have seen a few frame drops to 30 here and there but the strange thing is it's not even in combat it's happening, just when I'm standing still or in the first cutscenes.

johnny_ultimate · 21-06-2019 3:06pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Weren't all the DS games built with 60FPS in mind though and a lot of the iFrames were based on that?

Pretty sure it was 30 FPS limit for the first two games anyway (and the games struggled to achieve that :pac:). When DS2 got released on PC the higher frame rate IIRC caused weapons to degrade faster than they would at the lower FPS. Think it was DS3 before we got a PC From title at 60 FPS that worked without any caveats (DS2 and First Sin were OK ports but had issues) or, in the case of DS1, modding.

TitianGerm · 21-06-2019 3:11pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

higher frame rate IIRC caused weapons to degrade faster

That's what I was remembering!!

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