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Say my name · 17-06-2019 8:09pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

For the amount of time I would be using a tank, it's hard to justify a second hand one with a splash plate never mind a bigger one with dribble bar.

Ah who cares about money?

Wet springs with overworked contractors and biosecurity is where it's at.

_Brian · 17-06-2019 8:50pm

Say my name wrote: »

Add in noises about Moneypoint being closed for good.
And home produced electricity being sold into the grid and retrofitting heat pumps into existing houses and banning oil powered central heating.
And biomass community heat systems and anaerobic digestion heat systems.

Leo was asked about making public transport free and he rejected the idea based on capacity issues and cost.
Now that was an outside the box idea whoever came up with it and would have considerably reduced carbon usage overnight. Good idea purely from a carbon point of view.

Other than the cost of the heat pump the sort of deep retrofit needed to prepare a regular house for heat pump technology is going to cost maybe €40-50k per house.

emaherx · 17-06-2019 9:11pm

It'll be fine lads, I'm getting ahead of the curve on this one.

https://youtu.be/qO5aZeDoj5w

whelan2 · 17-06-2019 9:18pm

Say my name wrote: »

Ah who cares about money?

Wet springs with overworked contractors and biosecurity is where it's at.

Money isnt everything, your healthis your wealth

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-06-2019 9:27pm

gozunda wrote: »

What makes little sense about the current climate action plan hysterics is that most of it appears to be firmly aimed at the total shutting down of carbon emissions without setting out what the realistic alternatives are.

Take for example the Indo article quoted previously.

https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/forestry-enviro/environment/reducing-the-age-cattle-are-finished-among-proposals-in-governments-climate-action-plan-38225397.html

The problem with that is nearly the entire transportation sector is dependent on diesel and to a lesser extent petrol. Lorries, boats, airplanes, construction equipment, farm machinery, delivery vehicles all need fossil fuels to operate.

Start taxing the fook out of the use of these fuels, increase road tax and insurance as is being suggested and cost of living prices will soar. Ban them all together and you can say hello to something akin to a Mad Max reality

Ok so bring in all the EV cars. Well that's great but in Ireland some 70% of all electricity atm is produced by burning high carbon fossil fuels - so no great swap there tbh. Your EV car is still running on fossil fuels. The current proposals also suggest doubling electricity tax on businesses.

Who benefits here? Imo the car industry gets rich, power companies and government taxation has another source of easy revenue.

Ok let's say we aim for zero carbon emissions in whatever number of years - for example that will mean no concrete industry or products (as is responsible for significant CO2 emissions) and no chopping down trees. So what exactly will we build houses out of? Thin air?

With no artificial fertilisers - food production levels will plummet and sorry to say but our plant loving friends will also feel the brunt of that.

But of course the biggest issue that countries who implement a zero emission target will set themselves to a huge disadvantage over those countries that don't bother with the whole climate disaster thing and will be laughing all the way to the bank.

It's already happening here with much of the 'green' technology such as solar panels used here - being manufactured in China by factories which use electricity generated from coal.

Does anyone win in all this?

Much of this seems to be more about making the right sounds rather working on ways to prevent ghgs from entering the atmosphere in the first place through the use of appropriate technology or real solutions for reducing existing ghg levels. Some vague mutterings about bogs and trees which at best will take millennia to make any large difference ain't really a solution imo.

Bit more about Ag targets from Thomas Hubert.
https://twitter.com/tom_hubert/status/1140639464294760448?s=19

gozunda · 17-06-2019 9:30pm

The future is here. Zero products made from fossil fuels ... Cotton underwear would be a good idea

Birdnuts · 17-06-2019 9:46pm

Ammonia emmissions are far more damaging to the environment and human health than CO2 - this is where farming should take the lead with more extensive systems and less power for factories etc. to hammer farm gate prices. The climat plan as proposed pedals the likes of electric cars and biofuels despite increasing evidence of the negative environmental impact of their production worldwide in terms of habitat destruction and pollution from the likes of Lithium,Cobalt mining etc.

Say my name · 17-06-2019 10:24pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

Ammonia emmissions are far more damaging to the environment and human health than CO2 - this is where farming should take the lead with more extensive systems and less power for factories etc. to hammer farm gate prices. The climat plan as proposed pedals the likes of electric cars and biofuels despite increasing evidence of the negative environmental impact of their production worldwide in terms of habitat destruction and pollution from the likes of Lithium,Cobalt mining etc.

Ammonia emissions are easily solved with slurry bugs or biochar.
Biochar can take care of nitrous oxide too.

The dribble bar and trailing shoe is the answer for the time being though on slurry emissions.

If anaerobic digestors get to be a thing maybe biogas can be the on farm produced fuel of the future for our tractors and jeeps.
https://www.futurefarming.com/Machinery/Articles/2018/12/Gradual-switch-from-diesel-to-gas-and-electricity-373914E/

There's more positives than negatives with the push by government looking to go greener. Just folks need to get their heads wrapped around it.

MeTheMan · 17-06-2019 11:04pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Money isnt everything, your healthis your wealth

It's handy if you can afford health insurance all the same though.

Birdnuts · 18-06-2019 12:15am

Say my name wrote: »

Ammonia emissions are easily solved with slurry bugs or biochar.
Biochar can take care of nitrous oxide too.

The dribble bar and trailing shoe is the answer for the time being though on slurry emissions.

If anaerobic digestors get to be a thing maybe biogas can be the on farm produced fuel of the future for our tractors and jeeps.
https://www.futurefarming.com/Machinery/Articles/2018/12/Gradual-switch-from-diesel-to-gas-and-electricity-373914E/

There's more positives than negatives with the push by government looking to go greener. Just folks need to get their heads wrapped around it.

Well if we had a government genuinly interested in the real issues around such things then such measures would be rolled out across the board years ago

_Brian · 18-06-2019 5:15am

MeTheMan wrote: »

It's handy if you can afford health insurance all the same though.

Wouldn’t be without it.
Not a great claim but for us it’s paid out multiple times what we’ve paid in premiums and it seems it’s not done paying yet.

whelan2 · 18-06-2019 5:57am

MeTheMan wrote: »

It's handy if you can afford health insurance all the same though.

Indeed but if you have health insurance and it doesn't cover what ya need you're still goosed

Grueller · 18-06-2019 6:30am

whelan2 wrote: »

Indeed but if you have health insurance and it doesn't cover what ya need you're still goosed

I'd be fair confident that Steve Jobbs had a good health insurance plan and he still couldn't be saved.

_Brian · 18-06-2019 7:46am

Grueller wrote: »

I'd be fair confident that Steve Jobbs had a good health insurance plan and he still couldn't be saved.

In fairness Jobbs was an idiot.

He messed around with holistic quackery refusing traditional medicine until he was gone too far to be saved. At that stage all the money in the world couldn’t save him.

Grueller · 18-06-2019 8:25am

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness Jobbs was an idiot.

He messed around with holistic quackery refusing traditional medicine until he was gone too far to be saved. At that stage all the money in the world couldn’t save him.

Didn't know that

_Brian · 18-06-2019 9:22am

Grueller wrote: »

Didn't know that

Yea, he tried alternative medicine for something like a year before he opted for surgery to remove the tumour. But sadly it was too late at that stage.

patsy_mccabe · 18-06-2019 9:25am

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness Jobbs was an idiot.

He messed around with holistic quackery refusing traditional medicine until he was gone too far to be saved. At that stage all the money in the world couldn’t save him.

Ya, very true. I read his book. He makes an interesting observation too in the book about when he worked on a dairy farm at a young age. He couldn't believe how a young newborn calf could find it's way to it's mother's milk. He thought a lot about it and how the calf's brain must have some sort of pre-programming going on.

kk.man · 18-06-2019 9:35am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ya, very true. I read his book. He makes an interesting observation too in the book about when he worked on a dairy farm at a young age. He couldn't believe how a young newborn calf could find it's way to it's mother's milk. He thought a lot about it and how the calf's brain must have some sort of pre-programming going on.

Sometimes it's no harm to be a bit thick!

_Brian · 18-06-2019 9:47am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ya, very true. I read his book. He makes an interesting observation too in the book about when he worked on a dairy farm at a young age. He couldn't believe how a young newborn calf could find it's way to it's mother's milk. He thought a lot about it and how the calf's brain must have some sort of pre-programming going on.

He was surrounded by yes men, too intimidated by him to call him out, the result was he thought he knew everything and could do no wrong.

Similar fate interestingly led to the demise of Tatcher and indeed May in their political career, surround yourself with yes men and you grow to believe your right about everything, but nobody is right about everything. .

Muckit · 18-06-2019 10:08am

4yo sitting up on the loo. I get a call to wipe his bum, as u do.
"My poo smells like slurry!!"says he.
"That's because your a farmer son!" I say.

You should have seen the proud smiley head on him!

148multi · 18-06-2019 1:17pm

Muckit wrote: »

4yo sitting up on the loo. I get a call to wipe his bum, as u do.
"My poo smells like slurry!!"says he.
"That's because your a farmer son!" I say.

You should have seen the proud smiley head on him!

A pretty tough morning here, but by god that made me smile

MeTheMan · 18-06-2019 8:24pm

Sitting here wondering who will be the first lad/lassie on boards with an electric tractor!

jimmy G M · 18-06-2019 9:35pm

MeTheMan wrote: »

Sitting here wondering who will be the first lad/lassie on boards with an electric tractor!

Reggie.... who else....?

Say my name · 18-06-2019 9:40pm

MeTheMan wrote: »

Sitting here wondering who will be the first lad/lassie on boards with an electric tractor!

Probably loads if you count those mini toy John Deeres.

Ah electric is a dead end for tractors. Unless you count hybrid diesel engines.

Methane seems to be the most promising. Albeit the most likely to be opposed by government based on lost fuel tax revenue and fossil fuel lobbyists.

Cnh tractor.
https://youtu.be/M_3xM3jDgOk

Volvo lorry.
https://youtu.be/kAjQIbG330M

Peugeot rocket.
https://youtu.be/rYvHGSeDQFU

Cnh loader.
https://youtu.be/iR2W7LDSR8A

Latvian train.
https://youtu.be/tmsVxvA94w0

Scania bus.
https://youtu.be/mxLNQKo7DTM

Say my name · 18-06-2019 10:50pm

Odelay wrote: »

Sand

Scania.

Lime Tree Farm · 19-06-2019 9:26am

JackTheDogPortarlingtonGardaiFull18June19_large.jpg

Best and faithful friend - heartwarming

https://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/mans-best-friend-loyal-dog-refused-to-leave-owners-side-after-fall-931545.html

whelan2 · 19-06-2019 9:30am

On the subject of dogs did anyone read about the 2 pit bulls attacking another dog on Dollymount beach yesterday. That could easily have been a child attacked.

Anto_Meath · 19-06-2019 9:49am

There was an old farmer attacked by some bred of pit bull in Cavan last week,
https://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2019/06/12/4175419-pensioner-aiflifted-after-attacked-by-dog/
he got a bad doing.

wrangler · 19-06-2019 10:04am

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

JackTheDogPortarlingtonGardaiFull18June19_large.jpg

Best and faithful friend - heartwarming

https://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/mans-best-friend-loyal-dog-refused-to-leave-owners-side-after-fall-931545.html

I had to put down ''misty'' on Monday, 16 years old and like that a faithful friend.
I don't know how anyone works sheep without a dog

_Brian · 19-06-2019 11:51am

Anto_Meath wrote: »

There was an old farmer attacked by some bred of pit bull in Cavan last week,
https://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2019/06/12/4175419-pensioner-aiflifted-after-attacked-by-dog/
he got a bad doing.

Must have been a tough scene for the postwoman to come across. I hear he may loose an arm as a result of the attack.

Lady Haywire · 19-06-2019 12:12pm

There's a new guy on the same bog as ourselves. Had 4 alpacas but lost one to a dog attack one night last week

Anto_Meath · 19-06-2019 12:23pm

_Brian wrote: »

Must have been a tough scene for the postwoman to come across. I hear he may loose an arm as a result of the attack.

Must have been, she was a brave woman as an out of control dog like that could have turned on her too. At the poor mans age it will be a hard recovery on him. I did here the initial fear was that he would loose his arm but I think the hospital may have managed to save it, it marvelous what some hospital can do in situations like that.

ganmo · 19-06-2019 12:36pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

There's a new guy on the same bog as ourselves. Had 4 alpacas but lost one to a dog attack one night last week

And they're meant to be good at defending against dogs

Lady Haywire · 19-06-2019 12:43pm

ganmo wrote: »

And they're meant to be good at defending against dogs

Dunno if the dog was found or what the story is but would take a strong dog to kill one alright.

Muckit · 19-06-2019 12:46pm

Quick one, if u bring a vechicle for DOE and it passes, do the crowd that inspect issue the DOE disc that day or does it come in post?

Parishlad · 19-06-2019 12:48pm

Muckit wrote: »

Quick one, if u bring a vechicle for DOE and it passes, do the crowd that inspect issue the DOE disc that day or does it come in post?

Comes in the post.

Muckit · 19-06-2019 1:13pm

Parishlad wrote: »

Comes in the post.

Tks!

whelan2 · 19-06-2019 1:36pm

New phone today. Was fixing the tyres on the silage pit this morning and phone smashed on the ground on empty silage pit floor next door. Glad it wasn't me who fell.

L1985 · 19-06-2019 2:43pm

whelan2 wrote: »

New phone today. Was fixing the tyres on the silage pit this morning and phone smashed on the ground on empty silage pit floor next door. Glad it wasn't me who fell.

Where’s that poll gone??
Lol would have given you a fright thou so at least it was just the phone!!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-06-2019 5:28pm

whelan2 wrote: »

New phone today. Was fixing the tyres on the silage pit this morning and phone smashed on the ground on empty silage pit floor next door. Glad it wasn't me who fell.

We'll have to report you to the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Phones:D

whelan2 · 19-06-2019 5:53pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

We'll have to report you to the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Phones:D

Got 6 months out if that phone

blue5000 · 19-06-2019 6:00pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Got 6 months out if that phone

I got a caterpillar phone for father's day. It's built like a brick sh1thouse and is nearly as heavy. PM me if you want it, only trouble is you'll have to wear braces to keep the jeans up:o

Ard_MC · 19-06-2019 7:04pm

wrangler wrote: »

I had to put down ''misty'' on Monday, 16 years old and like that a faithful friend.
I don't know how anyone works sheep without a dog

Sorry about that. U do miss them when they go. And always hard to replace some.

wrangler · 19-06-2019 7:33pm

Ard_MC wrote: »

Sorry about that. U do miss them when they go. And always hard to replace some.

She was a very good dog, but went deaf very young due to something genetic, She was taught to hand signals then so she'd work well even up to 500 yards away provided she could see you.
At least she'd always be watching for direction and most work would be repetitive so she worked away

gozunda · 20-06-2019 12:25am

wrangler wrote: »

She was a very good dog, but went deaf very young due to something genetic, She was taught to hand signals then so she'd work well even up to 500 yards away provided she could see you.
At least she'd always be watching for direction and most work would be repetitive so she worked away

The old JRT here had gone deaf and blind for the last three years and sadly had him put down in April. His companion sadly went as well as his backend had gone. Both missed. Haven't replaced either tbh.

whelan2 · 20-06-2019 5:49am

Has a bat flying around our bedroom at 2am. The joys of an old house. Have a kids fishing net. Oh caught it in that and put it out the window

Lime Tree Farm · 20-06-2019 7:51am

Not just in an old house, we have at least one family in the attic; they have access through the air vents in the gable ends. They are harmless; once or twice one has flown around the living room when the trapdoor was left open. Watch out for infant bats on the footpath in July, who fail to get air borne. Just return them to the attic before the cat gets them.

Here is one for the children, fledermaus, or a flying mouse.

Suckler · 20-06-2019 9:06am

Looking for a 20ft shipping container or two for safe storage. Anyone bought these recently? I have no experience in them - do I have to organise delivery and cranage etc. of just prep a base and they do it all?

Saw a great job when two were placed apart and a roof built between them to form a handy workspace in between them.

MickeyShtyles · 20-06-2019 9:11am

Suckler wrote: »

Looking for a 20ft shipping container or two for safe storage. Anyone bought these recently? I have no experience in them - do I have to organise delivery and cranage etc. of just prep a base and they do it all?

Saw a great job when two were placed apart and a roof built between them to form a handy workspace in between them.

Have a small one here. 15ft maybe. More of a site office sort of yoke. 8ft work bench along one end and then shelves and an L shaped bench along
The rest.

_Brian · 20-06-2019 10:01am

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Have a small one here. 15ft maybe. More of a site office sort of yoke. 8ft work bench along one end and then shelves and an L shaped bench along
The rest.

I bought a 40ft when we were building.
Needs a bit of repair but serious storage space.

It’s been on loan at another site for last two years.

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