Famous Dublin pubs that are no more

The Enbalmer · 13-02-2019 4:45pm

L1011 wrote: »

One matchday at inflated prices would cover the cost of the fitout.

The interior was disgusting and the toilets worse in the Behan incarnation.

Did either incarnation do much business? I used to go to school round the corner and the thing i remember most about that pub was the smell as you passed it.

A bloke in my class from the area said some guy got shot for running his mouth in the place (1987 or so).

MOH · 14-02-2019 12:47pm

The Enbalmer wrote: »

Did either incarnation do much business? I used to go to school round the corner and the thing i remember most about that pub was the smell as you passed it.

A bloke in my class from the area said some guy got shot for running his mouth in the place (1987 or so).

Fairly sure somebody got shot a lot more recently than that? About 2 years ago?

GAA Beo · 14-02-2019 12:56pm

MOH wrote: »

Fairly sure somebody got shot a lot more recently than that? About 2 years ago?

https://www.thejournal.ie/sunset-house-shooting-3711478-Nov2017/

GAA Beo · 14-02-2019 12:59pm

L1011 wrote: »

Sunset House is back up for rent, and this time it has actually been refurbished. When the Gannon's had it, it had a badly done lick of paint and was still a wreck https://www.daft.ie/dublin/commercial-property-for-rent/restaurant-hotel-bar-for-rent/summerhil-pde-north-circular-road-dublin-796369

Is the rent on that not very expensive? Or is that just due to it being Dublin 1. Looks fairly small. 4 years nine months lease seems fairly long also or is that actually standard like it says. The Behan wasn't there that long.

L1011 · 14-02-2019 1:45pm

Average pub rent has been over 1k/week for a while now - have daft alerts for two or three years anyway. It is on the small side, though, so I would also think its a bit dear. Lease length would be normal enough.

GAA Beo · 14-02-2019 1:58pm

L1011 wrote: »

Average pub rent has been over 1k/week for a while now - have daft alerts for two or three years anyway. It is on the small side, though, so I would also think its a bit dear. Lease length would be normal enough.

If the business fails and pub closes, can you just forego the lease without any penalty or do you have to continue to pay it for the full 4 years 9 months.

Big Nasty · 14-02-2019 2:18pm

GAA Beo wrote: »

If the business fails and pub closes, can you just forego the lease without any penalty or do you have to continue to pay it for the full 4 years 9 months.

You get shot! :eek:

L1011 · 14-02-2019 2:29pm

If the lease is to a Ltd company which fails, and there are no personal guarantees in place, there's not much else the landlord can do than re-take possession and try lease it out again.

imme · 14-02-2019 6:52pm

There is the remnants of a building on Townsend Street, across from the Windjammer pub.

There is hoarding and a sold sign up on a small plot.

I think I remember The Countess Bar being up on the building in the past as well.

It was probably a complete kip.

Does anyone remember The Countess.

L1011 · 14-02-2019 7:20pm

There's a Guinness or possibly Harp sign still on the Countess. Townsend Street has lost a significant number of pubs over the years; way beyond th the two recently.

The Master · 15-02-2019 8:40am

imme wrote: »

There is the remnants of a building on Townsend Street, across from the Windjammer pub.

There is hoarding and a sold sign up on a small plot.

I think I remember The Countess Bar being up on the building in the past as well.

It was probably a complete kip.

Does anyone remember The Countess.

Donovan's was the pub on the corner "Importer of fine wines"

L1011 wrote: »

There's a Guinness or possibly Harp sign still on the Countess. Townsend Street has lost a significant number of pubs over the years; way beyond th the two recently.

Both the Guinness and Harp signs are still there.

The seashell fish bar was in the middle it and Donovan's

I saw recently The Strand House has been re branded as "Time 2 Travel" Student lounge

L1011 · 15-02-2019 9:31am

Time2 are a Brazilian student travel agency, address for their Irish office has changed to the Strand House address so I don't know if it's operating as a public house still. A former colleague has a Brazilian wife so I'll ask her to figure out!

Student union bars don't need publicans licences - club registration covers those as well as sports clubs and places like the Freemasons and Conservative Club that also have bars, wonder did they not realise that

Dyr · 15-02-2019 10:13am

imme wrote: »

There is the remnants of a building on Townsend Street, across from the Windjammer pub.

There is hoarding and a sold sign up on a small plot.

I think I remember The Countess Bar being up on the building in the past as well.

It was probably a complete kip.

Does anyone remember The Countess.

It was the Countess, was walking past one morning and someone has pulled the shutter up a bit. So I had a look, bar and fixtures etc still there but it was a total ruin

Fiftyfilthy · 15-02-2019 11:36am

Wasn’t Donovan’s further up towards neds, now apartments and a centra there?

Used to drink there the odd Sunday, quite rough but good too

The Master · 15-02-2019 12:15pm

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Wasn’t Donovan’s further up towards neds, now apartments and a centra there?

Used to drink there the odd Sunday, quite rough but good too

That was "Grace's" your thinking of

"Donovan's" was also known as "Ward's"

Fiftyfilthy · 15-02-2019 1:10pm

Perhaps, yes bar was at opposite end of the entrance, think was wooden steps In the place

Owner often did lock-ins on a sun night and busy enough with the locals

Always thought it was Donovan’s but my memory is probably wrong

L1011 · 16-04-2019 7:38pm

Planning has gone in to convert Stoneys on Hill Street to flats; except it has already been done. So that's not coming back

The former Bodhran/Waxie Dargle on Granby Row has been converted to offices also.

gaiscioch · 13-06-2019 9:55pm

The Hill pub at the corner in Mount Pleasant, Ranelagh has announced its closure "with immediate effect". I wonder what's going on to spark such a sudden closure.

“‪Due to circumstances beyond our control the Hill Pub has closed with immediate effect. We would like to thank all of our wonderful customers over the last few years, you have all been amazing,”

Popular Ranelagh pub, The Hill, announces sudden closure

The Hill Pub In Ranelagh Has Announced Its Closure “With Immediate Effect”

gaiscioch · 13-06-2019 9:59pm

According to the last link above, the Lord Mayor's pub in Swords, established in 1668 apparently, has also announced its closure in the past week:

350-Year-Old Dublin Pub Closes Its Doors

Strumms · 14-06-2019 9:09am

gaiscioch wrote: »

According to the last link above, the Lord Mayor's pub in Swords, established in 1668 apparently, has also announced its closure in the past week:

350-Year-Old Dublin Pub Closes Its Doors

That place had a good name, very centrally located in Swords. Surprised. Maybe if younger more invigorated owners take over it could be made a success of again.

MOH · 14-06-2019 11:54am

gaiscioch wrote: »

The Hill pub at the corner in Mount Pleasant, Ranelagh has announced its closure "with immediate effect". I wonder what's going on to spark such a sudden closure.

Popular Ranelagh pub, The Hill, announces sudden closure

The Hill Pub In Ranelagh Has Announced Its Closure “With Immediate Effect”

Bit sudden, but not entirely surprised. Had been going there reasonably often a couple of years ago, but it seemed to go downhill rapidly over the past year or so. They started refurbishing the Gents at one point and left it half finished for ages. A girl next to me at the bar one day complained that a ceiling tile had fallen on her in the Ladies, so that obviously wasn't much better. Another night an alarm of some sort kept randomly going off every few minutes, none of the staff seemed to know what it was.
Plus could often try three or four taps before hitting one that they actually had in stock.

In the end I'd pretty much given up on it over the past 6 months. Looking back those might well have been signs of cash flow issues, something was definitely going wrong.

Muahahaha · 14-06-2019 3:55pm

Strumms wrote: »

That place had a good name, very centrally located in Swords. Surprised. Maybe if younger more invigorated owners take over it could be made a success of again.

Surprised at that myself, especially with Swords being one of the fastest growing towns in Ireland with a young population and lots of well paid jobs from the airport and business parks.

VW 1 · 14-06-2019 4:31pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Surprised at that myself, especially with Swords being one of the fastest growing towns in Ireland with a young population and lots of well paid jobs from the airport and business parks.

It's been on the cards for a while, wasn't a surprise. There's huge competition on Swords main street, at least ten pubs on that road alone.

Muahahaha · 14-06-2019 4:43pm

VW 1 wrote: »

It's been on the cards for a while, wasn't a surprise. There's huge competition on Swords main street, at least ten pubs on that road alone.

Yeah Im not that familiar with the Lord Mayor, its at least 10 years since Ive been inside it. What happened, did their food offering go downhill? I know theres a bit of competition on the main street but Swords must be knocking a population of 40k+ at this stage with lots of people in their 20s, 30s with decent disposable incomes, there should be enough business to go around for all. Maybe high rents are curbing what people can spend even in a booming town like Swords?

its_steve116 · 14-06-2019 4:44pm

I was in Kielys of Donnybrook only once, and that one time I was there I met health minister Simon Harris.

trashcan · 14-06-2019 4:50pm

its_steve116 wrote: »

I was in Kielys of Donnybrook only once, and that one time I was there I met health minister Simon Harris.

I’m so sorry for your troubles !

VW 1 · 14-06-2019 4:53pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yeah Im not that familiar with the Lord Mayor, its at least 10 years since Ive been inside it. What happened, did their food offering go downhill? I know theres a bit of competition on the main street but Swords must be knocking a population of 40k+ at this stage with lots of people in their 20s, 30s with decent disposable incomes, there should be enough business to go around for all. Maybe high rents are curbing what people can spend even in a booming town like Swords?

Rumour on the ground is that there will be some kind of building work taking place, possibly apartments. I don't think it was to do with a poorly performing business as it was almost always busy.

14-06-2019 5:42pm

gaiscioch wrote: »

The Hill pub at the corner in Mount Pleasant, Ranelagh has announced its closure "with immediate effect". I wonder what's going on to spark such a sudden closure.

Popular Ranelagh pub, The Hill, announces sudden closure

The Hill Pub In Ranelagh Has Announced Its Closure “With Immediate Effect”

Wasn't that 'The General's' local?

Never got a good vibe from the place.

The General was long gone by then, but there used to be a marked Garda car stationed permanently outside a few years back. (This was around the same time as another Garda was permanently stationed outside McDowell's house, when he was Justice MInister)

henryporter · 14-06-2019 5:46pm

MOH wrote: »

Bit sudden, but not entirely surprised. Had been going there reasonably often a couple of years ago, but it seemed to go downhill rapidly over the past year or so

:rolleyes:

L1011 · 08-09-2019 6:37pm

Sunday Times today says that The Dockers is reopening. Only closed for 15 years, sure you could just sweep the floor and change the kegs surely :pac:

This is after The Sackville reopening after 2.5 years closed two weeks ago; and the former Aungier House reopening last year after ~20 years.

Famous Dublin pubs that are no more

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