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In 1940 Britain offered the 6 counties to Ireland in exchange for cooperation in WWII

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  • #102
    ValJester
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    johngalway wrote: »
    As for a German invasion of Ireland. A paratroop landing could have been done I'm sure, and then base aircraft here. But, I can't see how, at the time, the Germans could possibly have landed heavy gear here. The RAF or RN would have sent them to the bottom of the Atlantic.

    There would be huge resupply issues and Britain could have launched amphibious landings pretty much anywhere on out coast with air cover. Doesn't sound like a good deal for the Germans given how the war played out.

    In addition to this, the infrastructure in the West Of Ireland at the time would never have been able to sustain the German army,meaning they would have had to advance slowly across the midlands,giving the UK adequate time to reinforce Dublin.


  • #103
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Devalera would have been stupid to trust Churchill and it would have been irresponsible to put it to referendum. Imagine the response in the north just a few decades after the massive casulties the UVF took in WW1. Would be civil war.

    If the GFA mechanisms for a UI poll were held today I wouldnt trust the British to hold a fair election. There's plenty to dislike about de Valera but he was dead right to reject that deal.


  • #104
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    If the GFA mechanisms for a UI poll were held today I wouldnt trust the British to hold a fair election.

    I agree, those Brits will do anything to get rid of the north, even rig a referendum:D


  • #105
    ValJester
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I agree, those Brits will do anything to get rid of the north, even rig a referendum:D
    I wonder if a British Bord Snip will ever urge getting rid of the white elephant that it is.An independent Northern Ireland would be fascinating to watch.


  • #106
    pwd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    ValJester wrote: »
    I wonder if a British Bord Snip will ever urge getting rid of the white elephant that it is.An independent Northern Ireland would be fascinating to watch.
    Makes me think of the movie 'Escape from New York'


  • #107
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    pwd wrote: »
    How good/bad soldiers NI Unionists are is not very relevant.

    What is more relevant is that the Irish were classed as a Martial Race by the British. Churchill believed in the Martial Races theory.

    Any footnote for this? I googled 'martial race' and up came the Scottish Highlanders and the Indians, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Race


  • #108
    pwd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Any footnote for this? I googled 'martial race' and up came the Scottish Highlanders and the Indians, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Race
    The Irish used to be in the list on wikipedia. Now it only appears to list Indian groups. It's published numerous places online, but that could be propigation of the wikipedia content.


  • #109
    realitykeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    The 6 counties were not Britain`s to offer. Besides they had offered independence if we supported them in the 1st world war, but changed their minds after 50 thousand Irish went and died fighting our good friends the German.

    If the Brits renege on the Good Friday Agreement, articles 2 & 3 will need to be reinstated. Of course, there will be no need bother the electorate with another referendum, the answer would obviously be to reinstate the articles on the grounds of the British breaking the deal. The six counties were always part of this country anyway, the time for pretending otherwise is gone.

    The Good Friday agreement brought peace. If peace is to be reasserted, we need to be in a negotiating position whereby we can once again offer to pretend that the northern part of our country is not part of our country, (at least until a demographic shift heralds the time for a united Ireland). To do that, we need to have articles 2 & 3 reinstated to the statute books.

    One day, all this nonsense will end and Ireland will be both united and free.

    One other thought, when I hear people of a certain persuasion refer to the northern part of our country as the north of Ireland, it sounds like they are talking about some place up in the North Sea. This reminds me of the Afrikaans derogatory description of the English, i.e. soutpiel, meaning salt penis. The expression came about when the British in South Africa proclaimed themselves to have one foot in South Africa and the other in Britain. The Boers would then say the British had their willy in the Atlantic, hence soutpiel. Of course, I would never say such a thing.


  • #110
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Mod Note: This thread is almost 8 years old, please see the forum charter. Political posts would also be better suited to the Politics forums .
    Try not to repeat topics, have a quick search in the past threads. However you should not bump old threads unless there is a worthwhile reason for doing so such as new information or a new source that relates to the subject.


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