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Writers' Bloc - Creative Writing Off Topic Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    I think Charles Bukowski used to write under the influence a lot, and often wouldn't remember having written anything the next day. Worked for him, but then he was pissed all the time anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    "Write drunk, edit sober." -Hemmingway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    I write my best stuff while drunk. I once atook a field trip to Amsterdam and tried writing on weed but I kept falling asleep.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    "Write drunk, edit sober." -Hemmingway

    Wasn't he noted for writing under the influence of absinthe?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    It was more like absinthe writing under the influence of Hemmingway, I reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭cobsie


    Not exactly sure what this whole thread is about, but I'm liking it...

    writing on drugs...it's a myth. You can never actually write creatively on drugs. But it's useful for unblocking and thinking laterally (and blotting out the feeling of failure...) the trick is to remember what the **** you were thinking about!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    I'm sure it depends on the person. Mind you, I don't take drugs of any sort (other than caffeine, which I find an excellent writing aid), so perhaps I'm not qualified to judge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭cobsie


    Kinski wrote: »
    I think Charles Bukowski used to write under the influence a lot, and often wouldn't remember having written anything the next day. Worked for him, but then he was pissed all the time anyway.



    Woke up this morning and it seemed to me,
    that every night turns out to be
    a little bit more like Bukowski.
    And yeah, I know he's a pretty good read,
    But God, who'd wanna be...
    God, who'd wanna be such an asshole?

    [modest mouse]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    cobsie wrote: »
    Not exactly sure what this whole thread is about, but I'm liking it...

    writing on drugs...it's a myth. You can never actually write creatively on drugs. But it's useful for unblocking and thinking laterally (and blotting out the feeling of failure...) the trick is to remember what the **** you were thinking about!

    It definitely depends on the writer, cobsie. Lots of artists create great art while intoxicated on one substance or another. It can be much easier to block your internal editor if he's passed out on the floor while you write.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I just had a great VOATish idea (although once the mescaline wears off it might sound stupid). Basically, take a simple outline and write a load of versions each as though high on something different. No extra points for 'method writing' as that kind of thing has to be discouraged.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭CD.


    That does sound pretty interesting though, of course, how do you write like you're one something you've never experience before?

    but then, in saying that, how do you write about someone finding out their child was in an accident without experienceing that or any other number of things writers write about with no direct knowledge of what they write.

    I'm really hoping that made sense.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    It was mostly a joke, but it could be a bit of fun either way, just basing it on stereotypical stoner/cokehead/LSD-tripper behaviour.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I finally managed to finish writing a chapter after two months of putting it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    It was mostly a joke, but it could be a bit of fun either way, just basing it on stereotypical stoner/cokehead/LSD-tripper behaviour.

    I find myself intrigued by your "write like pickarooney" idea :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I reckon some time down the line we'll be able to have a piss-take contest where everyone has to write in the style of someone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    I reckon some time down the line we'll be able to have a piss-take contest where everyone has to write in the style of someone else.

    I love this idea:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    I'd like to take all my unfinished stories and merge them together to form a single, epic tale about zombie US marines (led by a man who thinks he is Batman) fighting Napoleonic soldiers on the third moon of Saturn for control of a small demon-built hotel just outside the capital city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Antilles wrote: »
    I'd like to take all my unfinished stories and merge them together to form a single, epic tale about zombie US marines (led by a man who thinks he is Batman) fighting Napoleonic soldiers on the third moon of Saturn for control of a small demon-built hotel just outside the capital city.

    Call it "Zomb-man and the elastic underpants situation"


    I have a major GRRR... went through all the effort of ordering a Kindle on amazon.co.uk, then at the final hurdle I'm told I have to order from the US store in order to get it to Ireland. GRR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    Fewcifur wrote: »
    went through all the effort of ordering a Kindle on amazon.co.uk, then at the final hurdle I'm told I have to order from the US store in order to get it to Ireland. GRR.

    Lol I could have told you that. I had to order mine from the states too.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    A Kindle is a lot of cash for a one-trick pony. Might as well get a cheap tablet and be able to do more with it. Though you may end up watching films instead of reading...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    A Kindle is a lot of cash for a one-trick pony. Might as well get a cheap tablet and be able to do more with it. Though you may end up watching films instead of reading...
    You can't read off a tablet in direct light or it turns into a mirror. Kindle is easy to read everywhere except under the duvet. Kindle has a limited set of abilities and it does them exceptionally well, unlike a tablet which tries to be all things to all people.

    Oh and the free worldwide 3G internet access doesn't hurt either!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    I reckon some time down the line we'll be able to have a piss-take contest where everyone has to write in the style of someone else.

    As long as the people involved aren't too sensitive about it. I think it'd be hilarious to see someone write as though they were me. (Cap'n Negative would probably do a very good job, as we were in the same creative writing group in college, and he knows my addiction to adjectives well! Although I have one word for him - Brie. 'Nuff said.)

    It would be great fun actually. It's nice to get outside your own head sometimes and try not to let your preconcieved notions about how someone else must look at things based on arbitrary things they say or do influence you - obviously it'd still be you then. I'm sorry, I ramble a fair bit when I'm tired and become pretty inarticulate, I hope I've gone some way to convey what I mean... I'll shut up now.

    I have a Sony reader and it's currently housing Ulysses for me, but I haven't looked at it in a while. It's not really a curling-up-in-bed type product either, which is unfortunately where I'm doing most of my reading these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Antilles wrote: »
    You can't read off a tablet in direct light or it turns into a mirror. Kindle is easy to read everywhere except under the duvet. Kindle has a limited set of abilities and it does them exceptionally well, unlike a tablet which tries to be all things to all people.

    Haven't had any major problems reading off my iPad in direct light, to be honest. Then again, living in Ireland, harsh light isn't all that common...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Kindle - €140 approx, lasts for a month or so. Super light.

    Ipad - €600 +, heavier, wouldn't feel happy reading it on the Luas.

    I would like to pick up an iPad at some stage, but not right now. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭CD.


    The only thing that pisses me off about the kindle is that you cannot order books off .co.uk, you can only get them from amazon.com

    before i knew this i had found two or three books that i wanted to download that were free, only to find i had to pay on the .com site. didnt buy them though.

    i have so much writing to do and so little effort to do it. i have to write a few short stories and start work on two novels along with a longer short story and edit a novel/really long short story.

    I know i can do it, it's just the effort of sitting down and there are so many reasons not to. oh someones in the hosue, can't leave them alone (cos it would be rude, not because i don't trust them) can't leave the dogs alone all day, thats mean, cant write on laptop, it burns my lap after a while, can't work on anything when i have to clean my room/office.

    Procrastination, thy name is Alan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    CD. wrote: »
    The only thing that pisses me off about the kindle is that you cannot order books off .co.uk, you can only get them from amazon.com

    before i knew this i had found two or three books that i wanted to download that were free, only to find i had to pay on the .com site. didnt buy them though.

    i have so much writing to do and so little effort to do it. i have to write a few short stories and start work on two novels along with a longer short story and edit a novel/really long short story.

    I know i can do it, it's just the effort of sitting down and there are so many reasons not to. oh someones in the hosue, can't leave them alone (cos it would be rude, not because i don't trust them) can't leave the dogs alone all day, thats mean, cant write on laptop, it burns my lap after a while, can't work on anything when i have to clean my room/office.

    Procrastination, thy name is Alan.

    I know how you feel, I know the routes I have to take, but I keep finding exciting stones along the way.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Fewcifur wrote: »
    Kindle - €140 approx, lasts for a month or so. Super light.

    About the same as I paid for my tablet but you're right about the weight.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Perla Calm Puppeteer


    I have a laptop. And paper books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    About the same as I paid for my tablet but you're right about the weight.

    €140ish for a tablet? You're doing well there sir, but I'm such a mac convert at this stage, it's like an addiction.
    bluewolf wrote: »
    I have a laptop. And paper books.

    I couldn't read a book on a laptop (though I forgot to print off my novels in work so I may expect you to do just that :P ) and I do love paper books, but for all this eBook jazz I'm glad to say my itouch works grrrand. Spent the night reading Eileen's book, and she'll probably hate that I discovered the note making feature cause I've got that bad boy littered with lil blue dots. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    I'm inebriated and just had a fantastic idea for a story. Hope it still makes sense in the morning :)


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Antilles wrote: »
    I'm inebriated and just had a fantastic idea for a story. Hope it still makes sense in the morning :)

    Depends on whether or not you stay drunk I guess.

    Bad ideas for presents for a kid's birthday #34 - a box of maggots.
    Bad places to put boxes of live maggots #11 - the fridge
    Things you don't want to see first thing on a Monday morning when you're late, hungover and said kid is in rush to get ready for school....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    "A futuristic theme park where all is not as it seems"

    I'm on to a winner here, I think...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Antilles wrote: »
    "A futuristic theme park where all is not as it seems"

    I'm on to a winner here, I think...

    I'm relatively sober and already excited at the prospect (of the story, not sobriety). although now Papa Lazarou is in my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    You're mah wafe now!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Perla Calm Puppeteer


    i do my best not to keep a list of to-read books, and yet suddenly i find myself with 3-4 books on this non existent list. which sounds very short and everything except that it should be zero because i do not want a list!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    bluewolf wrote: »
    i do my best not to keep a list of to-read books, and yet suddenly i find myself with 3-4 books on this non existent list. which sounds very short and everything except that it should be zero because i do not want a list!!!!

    I would suggest scribbling out the names of the books on the non-existent list... but... how would you do such a thing when it doesn't exist? Use a non-existent HB?! Dun dun dunnnnn


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Perla Calm Puppeteer


    it's ok i have decided i will write them down and then leave it at that... somehow
    and hurry up and finish 2 of my current 3 in-progress


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    bluewolf wrote: »
    it's ok i have decided i will write them down and then leave it at that... somehow
    and hurry up and finish 2 of my current 3 in-progress

    You could have warned me of your predicament and I'd have held off on sending you my bookywooks :)


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Perla Calm Puppeteer


    Fewcifur wrote: »
    You could have warned me of your predicament and I'd have held off on sending you my bookywooks :)

    ah no i will have a look over them dont worry
    might be tomorrow night at this rate


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Nobody sends me any bookywooks :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    Nobody sends me any bookywooks :(

    :'(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    bluewolf wrote: »
    ah no i will have a look over them dont worry
    might be tomorrow night at this rate

    No rush by any means, rushing in this game seems to be impossible with the dreaded publisher wait always present. Feels like an age since I submitted my stuff, but it's just barely two months, with a quoted minimum wait of two months. Damn. I need the rejection letter to add to my collection!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Perla Calm Puppeteer


    how long did they take you to write


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    bluewolf wrote: »
    how long did they take you to write

    Hmmm... book 1 started well, but I only really wrote with a full moon, so, a few months for the first 6 or 7 chapters. Then it kinda died. Girlfriend at the time was less than enthusiastic. Then I moved to Germany and suddenly found loads of time to write. Maybe two years for book one.

    Then book two was never getting off the ground until I gave the first book to a classmate who absolutely loved it, spurring me on to do book two. Think book two took a year, though it still needs some tweaks and two extra chapters, but I'm getting feeback before I make the changes, just to gauge how much I need to correct certain elements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭cobsie


    I finally managed to finish writing a chapter after two months of putting it off.

    how'd you get back into it after two months?

    I'm like a seized-up engine.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    After reading so many stories these last few weeks I forced myself to sit down with a pencil and try writing anything at all and not worry about the whole bigger issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Antilles


    Last night, I dreamt up a well worked, coherant plot for a chick-lit novel.

    I feel so dirty :'(


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Good title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Antilles wrote: »
    Last night, I dreamt up a well worked, coherant plot for a chick-lit novel.

    I feel so dirty :'(

    If it's anything like Bridesmaids then I'm fully on-board!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Perla Calm Puppeteer


    Fewcifur wrote: »
    If it's anything like Bridesmaids then I'm fully on-board!

    i heard that's good


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