Misunderstanding

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 3:10pm #1

A friend applied for a role and he got the position, he has a degree in Business and currently doing his Masters however he still has one year left. He started a new role about 1 week ago, in the welcome email his new boss when sending said email included his studies and said he holds an MSc, which he is due to obtain next year. He is confused how they misunderstood he has graduate from the MSc, this part was not covered in the interview...

I dont know what to advise him other than just say that he hasn't graduated yet, and it must have been a misunderstanding. Also his place does require proof (such as the actual diploma).

Any advise welcomed.

FTA69 · 18-06-2018 3:14pm

Has anyone ever actually been asked for proof of their educational credentials? I'd leave him crack on, chances are nobody will ever mention it again.

Kimbot · 18-06-2018 3:16pm

MOD Moved to Work & Jobs, take note of the charter.

Postgrad10 · 18-06-2018 3:16pm

Did the job criteria include that it was essential to hold an MSc to work in the position? He/she might just be including it to say he's studying his masters this year. If he's concerned send a quick email to HR to clarify.

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 3:17pm

i have been asked myself - when i tried to show them - no one seemed to care.

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 3:17pm

Postgrad10 wrote: »

Did the job criteria include that it was essential to hold an MSc to work in the position? He/she might just be including it to say he's studying his masters this year. If he's concerned send a quick email to HR to clarify.

Job states only to have a degree - that's all.

Postgrad10 · 18-06-2018 3:23pm

Then he's fine. Boss just jumped the gun a bit on his future masters degree. If your friend is worried though, she could have a work with HR or the boss. Although it's hard not to been to be correcting him on the matter.

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 3:30pm

Worried is an understatement. Especially when he was asked to bring these details with him when starting last week (no one looked at them yet). He is more worried that when he doesn't produce this they will wonder what happened, did he lie on his CV was it not clear enough. Did he try to mislead them etc etc etc???

OMM 0000 · 18-06-2018 3:39pm

This isn't a big deal whatsoever.

The boss is busy and made a mistake.

Personally I would make a casual comment to the boss that actually I am still in the middle off the M.Sc and will graduate next year, but thanks for making me look good.

Sir Ophiuchus · 18-06-2018 3:39pm

Send an email in reply-all:

'Thanks [boss]. Won't officially have the MSc till June next year, but I appreciate the vote of confidence! Looking forward to working with you all.'

Keeps the tone light, makes a good start for his new colleagues, and now nobody can claim he misled anyone.

Edit: Exactly, OMM_0000 - great minds think alike!

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 3:49pm

thanks everyone I will show him the replies. I think he is way too embarrassed to mention this to his boss.

Postgrad10 · 18-06-2018 3:51pm

No worrying. They hired hired him in the first place so he must be good:)

Donald Trump · 18-06-2018 4:52pm

Dear manager,

Thank you for sending the lengthy email introducing me to the team. I look forward to working with the team and making a meaningful contribution.

For the avoidance of confusion, I had made clear during the interview, I am currently studying for my M.Sc. I am confident that I will complete the course as planned and while I appreciate the vote of confidence implied in your email, I feel compelled to say that I am disappointed that a so-called manager would display such a lack of competence with respect to attention to detail. I hereby give your your first and only warning that any repeat of such sloppy behaviour will have severe consequences.

Sincerely
Your future boss

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 4:59pm

Very funny indeed

however unfortunately the educational part was not covered in the interview at all - that's why he is worried that the people who interviewed him might have misunderstood what he had written on the CV and might think that he is committing fraud or tried to deliberately mislead them.

Sir Ophiuchus · 18-06-2018 5:07pm

If his CV said something like:

MSc in Chemistry (expected 2019)

I wouldn't expect any issue.

PopTarts · 18-06-2018 8:20pm

Anna2834 wrote: »

2015 - Bachelor Degree in Quantum Phisycs
2017 - MsC - Title of the dissertation and what he is looking to cover, the supervisors name for said dissertation (c )

Something along those lines I believe

To me that looks like he obtained it in 2017.

I’m guessing he obtained his Degree in 2015.

irishrebe · 18-06-2018 8:24pm

Anna2834 wrote: »

2015 - Bachelor Degree in Quantum Phisycs
2017 - MsC - Title of the dissertation and what he is looking to cover, the supervisors name for said dissertation (c )

Something along those lines I believe

Well, that IS misleading. It very clearly states here that he has the Master's. How could he expect anyone to think otherwise?

Wildly Boaring · 18-06-2018 8:28pm

Sir Ophiuchus wrote: »

Send an email in reply-all

I wouldn't reply all.

And yes that really does look like he has the masters. In fact that's exactly what it says.

irishrebe · 18-06-2018 8:36pm

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Sir Ophiuchus wrote: »

Send an email in reply-all

I won't reply all.

And yes that really does look like he has the masters. In fact that's exactly what it says.

If I were the boss, I'd be wondering whether he purposely deceived me or if he's thick. Not sure which is worse.

TomOnBoard · 18-06-2018 8:43pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Dear manager,

Thank you for sending the lengthy email introducing me to the team. I look forward to working with the team and making a meaningful contribution.

For the avoidance of confusion, I had made clear during the interview, I am currently studying for my M.Sc. I am confident that I will complete the course as planned and while I appreciate the vote of confidence implied in your email, I feel compelled to say that I am disappointed that a so-called manager would display such a lack of competence with respect to attention to detail. I hereby give your your first and only warning that any repeat of such sloppy behaviour will have severe consequences.

Sincerely
Your future boss

This is sure to work! Coming from the master of "The Art of the Deal" and all..ðŸ˜

Anna2834 · 18-06-2018 8:47pm

Thanks for the replies. I suggested he advises them of the misunderstanding or misinterpretation and hope they understand. He said he will advise them tomorrow. Cheers.

helimachoptor · 19-06-2018 4:21pm

FTA69 wrote: »

Has anyone ever actually been asked for proof of their educational credentials? I'd leave him crack on, chances are nobody will ever mention it again.

My brother was asked to bring his parchment to the company (consulting) which was odd, wouldnt accept transcripts.

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