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Dentist,

  • 14-11-2018 12:43am
    #1
    decky1
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭


    has anyone felt they were ripped off by a dentist? my daughter 23 year old needed braces-- so advertised on local radio a new clinic in the area, when she went everything was great they took a look and said she needed root canal work done on 3 teeth, at the moment she has given them 2000 and she just can't afford to keep going , i suggested she get a second opinion, on visiting another dentist he could'nt believe her story he said there was no need for most of the work she has got done. would she have the right to confront them about this? she feels so let down by them and the money she wasted.:mad:


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  • #2
    rgodard80a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    Sounds bad... although did the 2nd dentist have access to the x-rays before the work was done ?

    There seems to be this crowd https://dentalcomplaints.ie and various solicitors around.

    But maybe it is worth ringing up that initial dentist and expressing concern that the treatment was considered unnecessary by another dentist and see what they say.


  • #3
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Go to the Dental Council. I know a dentist and they are getting tons of junk mail to their home address from these "clinics".

    They offer a cut if they were to refer a patient to them. They bin them right away.

    Edit- Phoned them. 100% Dental Council and go back to the person that did the work and ask for proof that the work was needed.


  • #4
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Dentists are robbing scumbags.
    They lie to you and make up stuff you need that you don't just to rob you.
    I was last at a dentists in 2000, before I went to America on a J1, I had a small gap in my teeth and he told me if I didn't fix it , I wouldn't get a job in the USA - scumbag.

    OK so I didn't get the toothpaste commercial, but no problem getting work, when I told Americans they laughed, even though they love their teeth they thought it was ridiculous that a dentist would say that - just imagine the mentality of someone that would use a young kids fear of going to work abroad for the 1st time, to try and extort what little money that have ??? -Again SCUMBAG.

    Anyway, been almost 20 years and have had no problems with my teeth - I take good care of them, but I just know if I went to see one of the scumbags he'd say "You need this that and this ... " €5k please ....

    I don't deal with scumbags.







    Did I mention dentists are scumbags ?


  • #5
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Dentists are robbing scumbags.
    They lie to you and make up stuff you need that you don't just to rob you.
    I was last at a dentists in 2000, before I went to America on a J1, I had a small gap in my teeth and he told me if I didn't fix it , I wouldn't get a job in the USA - scumbag.

    OK so I didn't get the toothpaste commercial, but no problem getting work, when I told Americans they laughed, even though they love their teeth they thought it was ridiculous that a dentist would say that - just imagine the mentality of someone that would use a young kids fear of going to work abroad for the 1st time, to try and extort what little money that have ??? -Again SCUMBAG.

    Anyway, been almost 20 years and have had no problems with my teeth - I take good care of them, but I just know if I went to see one of the scumbags he'd say "You need this that and this ... " €5k please ....

    I don't deal with scumbags.







    Did I mention dentists are scumbags ?


    I'm a dentist and I'll knock your delph out of you keep that up.

    *Disclaimer , may or may not be true.

    I did have a tooth pulled recently , dentist wouldn't let me bring it home.I reckon she fitted it back into someone's mouth.


  • #6
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    My parents get their teeth done in the continent. Cheaper and better quality dentists in Croatia and Germany they said


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  • #7
    6541
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    I will tell you about dentists. - Its a complete self interest profession in Ireland. They are like pharmacists Pre Boots entry to the Irish market.
    An example, One guy in my town made 1 million from welfare patients last year alone.

    The market needs to be deregulated - this will happen, one can go to any other country in the developed world and get better dental treatment for a fraction of the cost.


  • #8
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    My parents get their teeth done in the continent. Cheaper and better quality dentists in Croatia and Germany they said

    If they looked after thier teeth originally , they wouldn't have to go abroad .
    Just sayin'.


  • #9
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    6541 wrote: »
    I will tell you about dentists. - Its a complete self interest profession in Ireland. They are like pharmacists Pre Boots entry to the Irish market.
    An example, One guy in my town made 1 million from welfare patients last year alone.

    The market needs to be deregulated - this will happen, one can go to any other country in the developed world and get better dental treatment for a fraction of the cost.


    1 million euro is an awful lot of fillings and pulling of teeth. He would need to be seeing nearly 200 patients a week to get to that figure. Fair play to somebody who works that hard.


  • #10
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    corner of hells wrote: »
    If they looked after thier teeth originally , they wouldn't have to go abroad .
    Just sayin'.

    Are you an Irish dentist? Maybe stop the extortion and people wont go abroad


  • #11
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    There's a dental forum here that you could ask in. I asked about going abroad for cheaper treatment and there's aguy there that replies to every thread implying that only Irish dentists are worth going to and only if you pay the highest prices.

    However there does appear to be a mod there who answers questions quite honestly. Might be worth following up there and doing what prinzeugen said above.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=627&order=desc&page=2


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  • #12
    Steve F
    Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Steve F


    Whiskey and pliers.....just like in the Cowboy movies


  • #13
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    Grayson wrote: »
    There's a dental forum here that you could ask in. I asked about going abroad for cheaper treatment and there's aguy there that replies to every thread implying that only Irish dentists are worth going to and only if you pay the highest prices.

    However there does appear to be a mod there who answers questions quite honestly. Might be worth following up there and doing what prinzeugen said above.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=627&order=desc&page=2


    There are shills in every forum unfortunately.


  • #14
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    There's a dental forum here that you could ask in. I asked about going abroad for cheaper treatment and there's aguy there that replies to every thread implying that only Irish dentists are worth going to and only if you pay the highest prices.

    However there does appear to be a mod there who answers questions quite honestly. Might be worth following up there and doing what prinzeugen said above.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=627&order=desc&page=2


    that is a misrepresentation lie. I follow that forum and no poster has ever said or implied "only Irish dentists are worth going to and only if you pay the highest prices." They do caution against some of the pitfalls of work abroad, especially for people who require a lot of work. There is a also a poster who has had work done abroad and is seemingly happy with despite it failing much earlier than expected.


  • #15
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that is a misrepresentation lie. I follow that forum and no poster has ever said or implied "only Irish dentists are worth going to and only if you pay the highest prices." They do caution against some of the pitfalls of work abroad, especially for people who require a lot of work. There is a also a poster who has had work done abroad and is seemingly happy with despite it failing much earlier than expected.


    How much do you get paid to defend irish dentists in forums?


  • #16
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    How much do you get paid to defend irish dentists in forums?


    How much are you getting paid to post nonsense?


  • #17
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    How much are you getting paid to post nonsense?

    Whats nonsense? That dentists in germany are better? Or that dentistry in Ireland is a scam?


  • #18
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    How much are you getting paid to post nonsense?

    Will you take a cheque ? Ah feck it , stupid brain.


  • #19
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    Whats nonsense? That dentists in germany are better? Or that dentistry in Ireland is a scam?

    How do you know dentists in Germany are better ?


  • #20
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that is a misrepresentation lie. I follow that forum and no poster has ever said or implied "only Irish dentists are worth going to and only if you pay the highest prices." They do caution against some of the pitfalls of work abroad, especially for people who require a lot of work. There is a also a poster who has had work done abroad and is seemingly happy with despite it failing much earlier than expected.

    WTF? You think I just made that up? Do you think I have an agenda?


  • #21
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    Whats nonsense? That dentists in germany are better? Or that dentistry in Ireland is a scam?


    that is not what i responded to. do try to keep up.


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  • #22
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Will you take a cheque ? Ah feck it , stupid brain.


    Happily. make it out to C. Ash


  • #23
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Well, mine is very good, she is an older sensible woman, she will also do deals, let people pay off over time and has a price list up in the reception, the sugary is lovely. Maybe people need to shop around a bit. However, it is our privatised system that is causing a lot of the issues in the UK its the NHS my daughter got work done that cost 75 pounds here it would have been about 2000 euro.


  • #24
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    WTF? You think I just made that up? Do you think I have an agenda?


    I have no idea what agenda you have but what you said was not correct.


  • #25
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    OH, I WISH I'D LOOKED AFTER MY TEETH


    Oh, I wish I'd looked after me teeth,
    And spotted the perils beneath,
    All the toffees I chewed,
    And the sweet sticky food,
    Oh, I wish I'd looked after me teeth.

    I wish I'd been that much more willin'
    When I had more tooth there than fillin'
    To pass up gobstoppers,
    From respect to me choppers
    And to buy something else with me shillin'.

    When I think of the lollies I licked,
    And the liquorice allsorts I picked,
    Sherbet dabs, big and little,
    All that hard peanut brittle,
    My conscience gets horribly pricked.

    My Mother, she told me no end,
    "If you got a tooth, you got a friend"
    I was young then, and careless,
    My toothbrush was hairless,
    I never had much time to spend.

    Oh I showed them the toothpaste all right,
    I flashed it about late at night,
    But up-and-down brushin'
    And pokin' and fussin'
    Didn't seem worth the time... I could bite!

    If I'd known I was paving the way,
    To cavities, caps and decay,
    The murder of fiIlin's
    Injections and drillin's
    I'd have thrown all me sherbet away.

    So I lay in the old dentist's chair,
    And I gaze up his nose in despair,
    And his drill it do whine,
    In these molars of mine,
    "Two amalgum," he'll say, "for in there."

    How I laughed at my Mother's false teeth,
    As they foamed in the waters beneath,
    But now comes the reckonin'
    It's me hey are beckonin'
    Oh, I wish I'd looked after me teeth


  • #26
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I have no idea what agenda you have but what you said was not correct.

    Look up any thread there where people ask about going abroad or even up north. There's a poster who's user ID begins with F. They reply to every thread about it. They manage to say that there are cheap dentists in Ireland whilst in other threads (Or even the same threads) saying that if you try to find a cheaper dentist you'll get worse treatment.


  • #27
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    Look up any thread there where people ask about going abroad or even up north. There's a poster who's user ID begins with F. They reply to every thread about it. They manage to say that there are cheap dentists in Ireland whilst in other threads (Or even the same threads) saying that if you try to find a cheaper dentist you'll get worse treatment.


    I know the poster you refer too and i have never seen them say that cheaper = worse. Care to link to one of those posts?


  • #28
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I know the poster you refer too and i have never seen them say that cheaper = worse. Care to link to one of those posts?

    Jesus dude. Did I hit a nerve? I'm not making this sh1t up. Why the hell would I have an agenda? You think I'm working for the hungarian dentist association? Maybe I'm working for the illumaniti in an anti dentist conspiracy?

    I'm certainly not going to link to, or identify, an individual poster. There's two threads on the first three pages in that forum where they're actively arguing against going abroad or going north. In both cases where they argue against it they say that it's better to spend more here. That's the most I'll say.

    Honestly it sounds like you have an agenda. We're arguing that there's a single poster in the dental forums that has issues with people finding cheaper treatment. You seem to think that's outrageous. You've even gone so far as to imply I have an agenda and I'm lying. I'm going to leave this thread now. It's the dumbest argument I've even been in. The evidence is clear, anyone can go and see it and you're overreacting.


  • #29
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    Jesus dude. Did I hit a nerve? I'm not making this sh1t up. Why the hell would I have an agenda? You think I'm working for the hungarian dentist association? Maybe I'm working for the illumaniti in an anti dentist conspiracy?

    I'm certainly not going to link to, or identify, an individual poster. There's two threads on the first three pages in that forum where they're actively arguing against going abroad or going north. In both cases where they argue against it they say that it's better to spend more here. That's the most I'll say.

    Honestly it sounds like you have an agenda. We're arguing that there's a single poster in the dental forums that has issues with people finding cheaper treatment. You seem to think that's outrageous.


    I think you have just made it up. Or at the very least reading their posts reading their posts incorrectly.


  • #30
    incentsitive
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭incentsitive


    Dentist summed up!


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  • #31
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Going to the Dental Forum and asking for advice on treatment abroad is like walking into Tesco and asking them if you should shop in Dunnes. They're never going to encourage it!


  • #32
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that is not what i responded to. do try to keep up.

    Yikes. If theres any proof of Irish dentistry being shilled here its this guy


  • #33
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    Yikes. If theres any proof of Irish dentistry being shilled here its this guy


    still cant figure out what you are responding to i see.


  • #34
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    6541 wrote: »
    An example, One guy in my town made 1 million from welfare patients last year alone.

    What are you basing that on? Are you his accountant?


  • #35
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I am deeply thankful I am past all that. Deeply.. False teeth are grand, so.


  • #36
    decky1
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    mariaalice wrote: »
    OH, I WISH I'D LOOKED AFTER MY TEETH


    Oh, I wish I'd looked after me teeth,
    And spotted the perils beneath,
    All the toffees I chewed,
    And the sweet sticky food,
    Oh, I wish I'd looked after me teeth.

    I wish I'd been that much more willin'
    When I had more tooth there than fillin'
    To pass up gobstoppers,
    From respect to me choppers
    And to buy something else with me shillin'.

    When I think of the lollies I licked,
    And the liquorice allsorts I picked,
    Sherbet dabs, big and little,
    All that hard peanut brittle,
    My conscience gets horribly pricked.

    My Mother, she told me no end,
    "If you got a tooth, you got a friend"
    I was young then, and careless,
    My toothbrush was hairless,
    I never had much time to spend.

    Oh I showed them the toothpaste all right,
    I flashed it about late at night,
    But up-and-down brushin'
    And pokin' and fussin'
    Didn't seem worth the time... I could bite!

    If I'd known I was paving the way,
    To cavities, caps and decay,
    The murder of fiIlin's
    Injections and drillin's
    I'd have thrown all me sherbet away.

    So I lay in the old dentist's chair,
    And I gaze up his nose in despair,
    And his drill it do whine,
    In these molars of mine,
    "Two amalgum," he'll say, "for in there."

    How I laughed at my Mother's false teeth,
    As they foamed in the waters beneath,
    But now comes the reckonin'
    It's me hey are beckonin'
    Oh, I wish I'd looked after me teeth

    AH good old Pam. remember this from years ago,:D


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  • #37
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,358 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Should have gone to an orthodontist about the braces not a normal dentist tbh.

    Root canals are expensive alright. It's strange to need that many out of the blue. A lot of them are due to existing fillings failing or an injury or something. Not an expert but in my experience usually there would be some pain or sensitivity beforehand. Does sound like a scam. I don't know if there's anything you can do about it though?


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