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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,575 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I'd call him a guy that has the login details for a word press blog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    _blaaz wrote: »
    By your own admission they arent qualified :confused:

    If that is main point you took from my post then I worry for your ability to comprehend basic writing and deduce substance from it.

    To elaborate, the term 'unqualified' is a non sequitur.
    I showed you how one of America's famous journalist never had a journalism degree, nor even a degree itself (he might have gotten an honorary one later in life for his journalistic achievements)

    I also showed you how one of Ireland's famous journalist never even attended University. But here is getting an honorary doctorate from UCD for his contribution, as an RTE journalist.

    00002ffb-800.jpg

    The point?

    One does not need to have a degree in journalism to be a journalist.
    If this point still alludes you then I cannot help you anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Boggles wrote: »
    I'd call him a guy that has the login details for a word press blog.

    Indeed you might, but then when has your opinion carried any serious weight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,575 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    markodaly wrote: »
    Indeed you might, but then when has your opinion carried any serious weight?

    Depends on the "qualifications" of who is listening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ah playing the victim card are we? The audacity, you claimed a poster was a misogynist raising his daughter to be both subservient and racist, you did this without proof or provocation, you did this, because you simply lack the facilities to debate with even a modicum of maturity, so you're correct, I don't see myself as equal to you thankfully.

    It's reassuring to see the great majority see Antifa as loathsome, violent, and quite frankly as stupid as their counterparts on the Far Right, that only a small few posters are defending their assault on this journalist with inane, illogical, and yes, outright stupid posts means this thread has run it's course for me.

    I never claimed that or used those words. I used the word "subservient" (maybe read the posts you try to respond to) I used words he likes such as "undocumented" and when people start going on about 1970's era "Proud Boys" where's the maturity in that if someone cites troll groups they are hardly credible? I just hope his daughter sees actual sense before its too late. It does happen. Even some of those Westboro lot escaped the grandfathers indoctrination :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    markodaly wrote: »
    Indeed you might, but then when has your opinion carried any serious weight?

    It carries as much as GemGem and GranTurismo


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It carries as much as GemGem and GranTurismo

    How many followers do you have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    How many followers do you have?

    Do I include bots or not?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Do I include bots or not?

    Quote both


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/13248/study-9-10-antifa-protesters-still-living-moms-aaron-bandler
    Study: 9 In 10 Antifa Protesters Still Living In Mom's Basement

    84% are male
    72% are aged 18-29
    90% are single
    34% are unemployed

    They should add that 100% are white.
    It's the whitest movement since KKK (that also liked masks).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Portland arrested Antifa mug shots

    Antifa-1.jpg
    Actually, make that 98% white.
    Better than any white supremacist could ever hope for.
    You go antifa!


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    biko wrote: »
    Portland arrested Antifa mug shots

    <SNIP>

    Spot the junkies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Rowan Croft milkshaked yesterday is GoFundMe has raise 20 cent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Antifa mugshots from Berkley last year

    https-s3-us-west-2-amazonaws-com-maven-user-photos-bluelivesma.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    biko wrote: »
    Antifa mugshots from Berkley last year

    <SNIP>

    20 cent there on the bottom left.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    This sums up antifa in 11 seconds

    https://youtu.be/e4CzPKzD5uk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Stop assuming their race you fascist :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Spot the junkies.

    Is that Lionel Messi in the top tight?


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Is that Lionel Messi in the top tight?

    Yeah after been on the gear for about 10 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    biko wrote: »
    Stop assuming their race you fascist :D

    Read your post. You brought race into it it. Clearly something against white people.

    But they're all white you say and you post that ****e.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    I know a guy making a very good living at wedding and event photography. He is at it 20 years but has no qualifications in photography.

    I suppose we can't call him a photographer.

    What is a journalist anyway? It barely requires a qualification. Which these days is a left wing indoctrination camp anyway.

    Take your camera, take your pen and go out and report honestly on the world = journalist. Simple as that.

    Ok....sure well just do away with any formal qualifocations for all jobs now i suppose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    But *their all white you say and you post that ****e.
    *They're

    They all look white to me. Is Latino not white?

    What "people colours" are there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    markodaly wrote: »

    One does not need to have a degree in journalism to be a journalist.
    If this point still alludes you then I cannot help you anymore.

    Ok...if you think so....but respectfully we'll have to agree to disagree here


    I personally believe in people having qualifocatians to do their job,but whatever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    biko wrote: »
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/13248/study-9-10-antifa-protesters-still-living-moms-aaron-bandler



    They should add that 100% are white.
    It's the whitest movement since KKK (that also liked masks).

    Are you actually serious?. Have you looked at any vidoes, theres loads of "Latinos" that are in it.

    Have you not been paying attention to Klaaas' incredibly lucid posts, we've already established that skin colour is no indication of race; those latinos were actually white folks in brown-face ;)
    klaaaz wrote: »
    Having white scrawny hands as you put it does not mean automatically the people were white or Caucasian
    klaaaz wrote: »
    it's quite easy to manipulate one's skin colour of hands to fool the other side.
    klaaaz wrote: »
    You had said they were white despite them being masked, pasty white scrawny hands does not define the attackers as white, they could have been wearing talcum powder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    I can think of several prominent Journalists in Ireland who came from working class backgrounds who went to the top of their profession through talent and hard work, with no qualifications.


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Racist and a mod! boards gone to the dogs

    Cop the f**k on mate, we had far left morons on here yesterday advocating for people to he murdered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Danzy wrote: »
    That is just your snobbish middle class perspective.

    I can think of several prominent Journalists in Ireland who came from working class backgrounds who went to the top of their profession through talent and hard work, with no qualifications.
    Mate..regretably for yous im not middle class?(well idk what it really is either tbh)


    Infact i seen the damage done to rake of professions by unqualified people,all it leads to is an excuse to drive down wages...you see garages full of ukrainians etc and sh1t wages for mechamics by allowing people.to do.a job without any qualifications



    At no point have i said this lad or anyone else named isnt good at what they do,just that they shoupdnt be recognised as journalist without qualifing,hardly an unreasonable position??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    _blaaz wrote: »
    I personally believe in people having qualifocatians to do their job,but whatever

    Mel Gibson never stepped foot in a drama school, nor did he ever train as a director yet has won acclaim and Oscars in both fields, using your logic however he is neither an actor or director.

    Tara Reid did however go to drama school, meaning if you use your interpretation of "qualifications", Tara Reid is an actor, Mel Gibson is not.

    Now you don't for a second believe in what you claim on this thread, yet instead of admitting when you're wrong and conceding that, yes the victim in this attack is indeed a journalist, you've decided to double down on the stupidity of your claim, it's quite frankly embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Mate..regretably for yous im not middle class?(well idk what it really is either tbh)


    Infact i seen the damage done to rake of professions by unqualified people,all it leads to is an excuse to drive down wages...you see garages full of ukrainians etc and sh1t wages for mechamics by allowing people.to do.a job without any qualifications



    At no point have i said this lad or anyone else named isnt good at what they do,just that they shoupdnt be recognised as journalist without qualifing,hardly an unreasonable position??

    Reasonable points. Will delete the jibe.

    Ngo can claim to be a more successful journalist though than any full timer in the Irish Times or Independent though.

    Results matter.


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    _blaaz wrote:
    Infact i seen the damage done to rake of professions by unqualified people,all it leads to is an excuse to drive down wages...you see garages full of ukrainians etc and sh1t wages for mechamics by allowing people.to do.a job without any qualifications

    And you know these Ukrainian people are not qualified? How is that?

    _blaaz wrote:
    At no point have i said this lad or anyone else named isnt good at what they do,just that they shoupdnt be recognised as journalist without qualifing,hardly an unreasonable position??

    On the job experience is more valuable. I studied journalism in college and it is frightening what is being taught to students. Readership is more important than accurate reporting, bringing in guest lecturers from entertainment.ie, a pro-rte bias etc.

    One of the prerequisites for journalism in my opinion is a good level of English, integrity, knowing the importance of facts, an ability to report fairly and with balance, the courage to tell the truth in the face of adversity.

    Having those abilities may not get you into rte but it will make you a credible journalist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Racist and a mod! boards gone to the dogs
    Lol, the site has gone to the dogs since you signed up in February and managed to get 19 posts since?
    You seem to be pretty pretty liberal*


    *with calling others racists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Infact i seen the damage done to rake of professions by unqualified people,all it leads to is an excuse to drive down wages...you see garages full of ukrainians etc and sh1t wages for mechamics by allowing people.to do.a job without any qualifications
    ?

    Because they're Ukrainian or etc as you so bigotedly put it automatically means they're not qualified? I'm confused, you advocating Antifa thugs suggests you identify with the Far Left, yet your obvious xenophobia** suggests you might feel more at home with the Far Right.


    **I'm sure you'll attempt to back-track from this faux pas by claiming something absurd like you've asked all these Ukranian mechanic for proof of their qualifications before working on your car, this we all know is bollox, you're a xenophobe, deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Don't think you need qualifications to be a journalist but they definitely should follow a code of ethics and have principles. Ngo was fired for lying about what someone said, he also published unsubstantiated claims and tweets things that are demonstrably untrue.
    He is the cheerleader for vicious fascists and racists.

    More of a lord haw haw than a journalist in reality.


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    20Cent wrote:
    He is the cheerleader for vicious fascists and racists.

    Please stop.

    Point me to where he does that? And again, what is a fascist in your opinion?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Because they're Ukrainian or etc as you so bigotedly put it automatically means they're not qualified? I'm confused, you advocating Antifa thugs suggests you identify with the Far Left, yet your obvious xenophobia** suggests you might feel more at home with the Far Right.


    **I'm sure you'll attempt to back-track from this faux pas by claiming something absurd like you've asked all these Ukranian mechanic for proof of their qualifications before working on your car, this we all know is bollox, you're a xenophobe, deal with it.
    Sure they can be english or irish,mexican or whatever too....its just the qualifications they have dont exist they shpuldnt be doing a job without the qualifocations to do so??


    Why your labeling me a xenophobe is beyond me?


    Nowhere have i advocated antifa,infact i have also advocted people of antifa getting attacked once its in proportion....they beat up this chap,so have earned it


    Have you actually read my posts or do you just like to jump in and call anyone who deosnt fall in line a racist...how is that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Even if he is a cheerleader for fascism he lives in a democracy and should not be beaten up for his political views. He still doesn't deserve it if he is walking down the road with a big I am a fascist sign.

    This is what we are getting lost in arguing about what race who is and if he is a journalist or not, the fact is we have street gangs of different political persuasions prepared to use violence against others.

    This is really dangerous. Nobody deserves to be beaten up for their views no matter how disgusting those views are.


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    _blaaz wrote:
    Nowhere have i advocated antifa,infact i have also advocted people of antifa getting attacked once its in proportion....they beat up this chap,so have earned it

    ****ing hell. Rather than condone ANOTHER beating, perhaps you should be calling for violence against people of a different opinion to be stopped rather than doubled.
    _blaaz wrote:
    Sure they can be english or irish,mexican or whatever too....its just the qualifications they have dont exist??

    How do you know? It was interesting that you went straight to Ukrainian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    ****ing hell. Rather than condone ANOTHER beating, perhaps you should be calling for violence against people of a different opinion to be stopped rather than doubled.

    Id have to disagree i believe in an eye for eye type justice,once its in proportion
    How do you know? It was interesting that you went straight to Ukrainian.

    Ok...il not say ukrainan next time :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Sure they can be english or irish,mexican or whatever too....its just the qualifications they have dont exist??


    Why your labeling me a xenophobe is beyond me?

    What are you finding difficult to grasp? You are a Xenophobe if you believe a mechanic is unqualified just because he is Ukrainian or etc
    _blaaz wrote: »
    you see garages full of ukrainians etc and sh1t wages for mechamics by allowing people.to do.a job without any qualifications

    You have no clue of the qualifications of these Ukrainian or etc mechanics, that they did not qualify in their home nations or indeed if they trained in Ireland, assuming they are unqualified just because they have an accent is absolute bigotry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    What are you finding difficult to grasp? You are a Xenophobe if you believe a mechanic is unqualified just because he is Ukrainian or etc

    You have no clue of the qualifications of these Ukrainian or etc mechanics, that they did not qualify in their home nations or indeed if they trained in Ireland, assuming they are unqualified just because they have an accent is absolute bigotry.

    Ok....like i said i wont say ukrainain again...i apoligise for the upset this seems to have caused you :confused:


    If yous need to label people xenophone or whatever to shut down the debate,thats all on yous i guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Boggles wrote: »
    Depends on the "qualifications" of who is listening.

    Ba dum tish.

    Do you have anything substantive or interesting to contribute to the thread or are 'clever' one-liners the extent of your cognitive and intellectual potential?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Ok....like i said i wont say ukrainain again...i apoligise for the upset this seems to have caused you :confused:


    If yous need to label people xenophone or whatever to shut down the debate,thats all on yous i guess

    You can't say anything these days PC gone mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Ok....like i said i wont say ukrainain again...i apoligise for the upset this seems to have caused you :confused:

    I'm not upset, whatever gave you that impression.
    _blaaz wrote: »
    If yous need to label people xenophone or whatever to shut down the debate,thats all on yous i guess

    Your statement that Ukrainian or etc mechanics are unqualified labor is a poor entry to the debate, I'm not attempting to shut anyone down nor do I claim to have any right to do so, but post a stupid comment, prepare to be called up on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    _blaaz wrote: »

    At no point have i said this lad or anyone else named isnt good at what they do,just that they shoupdnt be recognised as journalist without qualifing,hardly an unreasonable position??

    Therefore by your logic, Charlie Bird and Walter Cronkite should not be called journalists either?

    Am I doing this right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    markodaly wrote: »
    Therefore by your logic, Charlie Bird and Walter Cronkite should not be called journalists either?

    Am I doing this right?

    They shouldnt if unqualified??


    Im.failing to.see how your struggling to pick this up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz



    Your statement that Ukrainian or etc mechanics are unqualified labor is a poor entry to the debate, I'm not attempting to shut anyone down nor do I claim to have any right to do so, but post a stupid comment, prepare to be called up on it.

    Ok....i guess....just struck.me as labeling to shout down debate tbh....but sure we'll agree to disagree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    20Cent wrote: »
    You can't say anything these days PC gone mad.

    I'm sorry you've made yourself a bit too obvious with this post. On one hand you protest not being able to say something whilst on the other, you have openly advocated the brutal and one-sided attack of this journalist all for his alleged crime of, yep, saying something.
    20Cent wrote: »
    Ngo was there to dox people which he has done in the past. The people who attacked him may well have saved some lives.

    I have to give you plaudits, I almost believed these opinions were sincere, foolishly misguided, but sincere nonetheless, how foolish I was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Portland PD knew Patriot Prayer had a cache of rifles with some of their members on a rooftop at one of their events last year and didn't tell the mayor about it for two months. The Police Chief did however go on the radio in the immediate aftermath and claim the anti-facist protesters were the ones who were armed.

    Portland PD is not an unbiased player in this situation.
    In the early morning of Aug. 4, hours before a massive waterfront protest, Portland police officers discovered a group of Patriot Prayer supporters on the roof of a parking garage in downtown. According to a description provided in the mayor's proposed ordinance, the men had a "cache of firearms," which a mayoral staffer would later describe as "long guns."

    "Prior to the start of the scheduled demonstrations, police discovered individuals who had positioned themselves on a rooftop parking structure in downtown Portland with a cache of firearms," the ordinance says.

    ...

    A week later, Portland Police Chief Danielle Outlaw spoke on a conservative radio show and claimed it was those [antifa] counterprotesters who had weapons.

    https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2018/10/16/portland-police-found-right-wing-protesters-with-a-cache-of-long-guns-atop-a-parking-garage-why-didnt-the-mayor-know/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    _blaaz wrote: »
    They shouldnt if unqualified??

    Yet, one is arguably the most famous American journalist of the 20th century and the other is arguably the most famous Irish journalist of the last 40 years. But Blaaz wouldn't call them journalist because they don't have a degree in it. Right so.

    You do see that your strict philistine antiquated and snobbish thought process here has more holes than swiss cheese?

    You say you are working class? Pull the other one.


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